Official Genesis thread. WAS:2019 Hyundai G70

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Originally Posted by civic_stylez

Ive worked for Ferrari and for Bentley and a lot of the customers used to have S class, 7 series, Mas QP and other luxury sedans as part of their daily driver fleet. I was always surprised by the frequency of issues and lack of service/support when these issues arose. My dream car is still the Merc S65 but I just wanted to avoid the nightmares associated with these cars. You can get them for cheap but the average 5k/yr to keep them on the road does not interest me. I love the Alpina B7 but we sold a few of them and had them in our shop more than the owners had them in their garages.

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I think often it is a bit luck of the draw and perhaps the level of trim (ie... V12 TT S600 etc...). My parents bought their 08 S450 about 5 years ago, I was so annoyed. They are relatively "normal" income people, and frankly I didn't want my dad pouring every cent he had in retirement into keeping the car on the road. Of course, as the son, I am also brought in to help keep the car on the road by finding appropriate service facilities... browsing forums for solutions to problem etc. Turns out after 5 years, I didn't have to do it once... dead reliable... go figure.

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Originally Posted by Neil4Speed

I think often it is a bit luck of the draw and perhaps the level of trim (ie... V12 TT S600 etc...). My parents bought their 08 S450 about 5 years ago, I was so annoyed. They are relatively "normal" income people, and frankly I didn't want my dad pouring every cent he had in retirement into keeping the car on the road. Of course, as the son, I am also brought in to help keep the car on the road by finding appropriate service facilities... browsing forums for solutions to problem etc. Turns out after 5 years, I didn't have to do it once... dead reliable... go figure.

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These are the stories I love to hear. Ive definitely chatted with guys that have experienced true reliability on cars that are notorious for expensive service and reliability issues. A friend of mine has a Gallardo with over 60k on it and all hes really ever had to do was change the oil. I also credit a lot of it to actually driving the car. A lot of high end cars sit a lot and seals dry out, fuel goes bad etc...

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Originally Posted by civic_stylez

These are the stories I love to hear. Ive definitely chatted with guys that have experienced true reliability on cars that are notorious for expensive service and reliability issues. A friend of mine has a Gallardo with over 60k on it and all hes really ever had to do was change the oil. I also credit a lot of it to actually driving the car. A lot of high end cars sit a lot and seals dry out, fuel goes bad etc...

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Big credit for actually driving the car, good for him! Why save forever to have the car you wanted just sit around - life is short!

My dad actually was so happy with the experience that he ended up getting a few years newer S550... I am still a little anxious but have to also go with the mentality that life is short and enjoy.

Not sure if I posted these renders yet, but I think this is the most accurate to what will be revealed in terms of design for the G80/GV80.

G80: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=Uvx1WGLBjLE

GV80: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=D4b1ueNiZB8

GV80:

Styling looks like Venue x Santa Fe
What size class is this going into? X3/Q5 size?

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Originally Posted by jwslam

GV80:

Styling looks like Venue x Santa Fe
What size class is this going into? X3/Q5 size?

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By naming, it's probably Q5/GLE/X5. GV70 would be sized against X3/Q3

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Originally Posted by Xtrema

By naming, it's probably Q5/GLE/X5. GV70 would be sized against X3/Q3

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X1 is equiv to Q3
X3 is equiv to Q5

They're not the same class just because same number...

I had thought they were pursuing the same class as the Palisade. There was a spyshot of the rear interior shown and you could see there was a third row, making the GV80 a 7 or 8 person vehicle. Have to wait and see what it releases with as standard. May have been a test mule or something I was seeing.

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Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp

I had thought they were pursuing the same class as the Palisade. There was a spyshot of the rear interior shown and you could see there was a third row, making the GV80 a 7 or 8 person vehicle. Have to wait and see what it releases with as standard. May have been a test mule or something I was seeing.

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I test drove the Palisade yesterday... its massive. When I saw the GV80 concept at the show it had a lower profile but was still big. I see it going after the Jag F/Volvo XC90 market. More along the sizing lines of the Telluride.

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Originally Posted by Sugarphreak

I've been reading that Kia/Hyundai cars haven't been holding up well in long term reviews

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My Wife has had her Santa Fe for 5 years, and the biggest problem was replacing the hatch struts twice. No problems otherwise.

Forgot to update this thread...

I finally made it into my closest Genesis boutique store. Genesis South Edmonton. It was awesome. I test drove the G80 Sport as well as the G70 with the 3.3TT. I can see why the G70 got so many good reviews. Quick and fun car. My only complaint is I found the rear seat room to be quite a bit smaller than I thought it would be. This was the first time I could really dig into the G70 as they are rare to non-existent in the Red Deer area. The G80 Sport was pretty much the same as my '15 Genesis but also.... way different. My Genesis has a 3.8 V6 and this one had the 3.3TT and it makes a massive difference in driving but it still retained that 'solid' feeling.

Also, IIRC, the sales manager told me that the new GV80 SUV is being built to compete directly against BMW X5.

Side note - plan is to construct a stand alone Genesis dealer in Edmonton in next two years. I imagine Calgary is same.

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Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp

Forgot to update this thread...

I finally made it into my closest Genesis boutique store. Genesis South Edmonton. It was awesome. I test drove the G80 Sport as well as the G70 with the 3.3TT. I can see why the G70 got so many good reviews. Quick and fun car. My only complaint is I found the rear seat room to be quite a bit smaller than I thought it would be. This was the first time I could really dig into the G70 as they are rare to non-existent in the Red Deer area. The G80 Sport was pretty much the same as my '15 Genesis but also.... way different. My Genesis has a 3.8 V6 and this one had the 3.3TT and it makes a massive difference in driving but it still retained that 'solid' feeling.

Also, IIRC, the sales manager told me that the new GV80 SUV is being built to compete directly against BMW X5.

Side note - plan is to construct a stand alone Genesis dealer in Edmonton in next two years. I imagine Calgary is same.

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BTW G70s are quite a common sight in Calgary now.

Looked up some sales figures for Canada again: YTD

Tesla 3 - 7,900
C class - 4,331
3 Series - 3,193
A4 - 2,429
IS - 1,310
Stinger - 901
ATS - 873
G70 - 687
Q60 - 309

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Originally Posted by Xtrema

BTW G70s are quite a common sight in Calgary now.

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I've gone from seeing almost none, to several times a week on my commute (could be the same people I guess). Really sharp looking car live.

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Originally Posted by Aleks

Looked up some sales figures for Canada again: YTD

Tesla 3 - 7,900
C class - 4,331
3 Series - 3,193
A4 - 2,429
IS - 1,310
Stinger - 901
ATS - 873
G70 - 687
Q60 - 309

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Interesting. Where do all those Model 3s live? Not in Calgary as I have not seen many.

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Originally Posted by benyl

Interesting. Where do all those Model 3s live? Not in Calgary as I have not seen many.

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Vancouver

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Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt

I've gone from seeing almost none, to several times a week on my commute (could be the same people I guess). Really sharp looking car live.

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My thoughts as well, they are really eye-catching.

Maybe I'll buy one for a winter beater in a couple years when they've depreciated by 75%.

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Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp

Forgot to update this thread...

I finally made it into my closest Genesis boutique store. Genesis South Edmonton. It was awesome. I test drove the G80 Sport as well as the G70 with the 3.3TT. I can see why the G70 got so many good reviews. Quick and fun car. My only complaint is I found the rear seat room to be quite a bit smaller than I thought it would be. This was the first time I could really dig into the G70 as they are rare to non-existent in the Red Deer area. The G80 Sport was pretty much the same as my '15 Genesis but also.... way different. My Genesis has a 3.8 V6 and this one had the 3.3TT and it makes a massive difference in driving but it still retained that 'solid' feeling.

Also, IIRC, the sales manager told me that the new GV80 SUV is being built to compete directly against BMW X5.

Side note - plan is to construct a stand alone Genesis dealer in Edmonton in next two years. I imagine Calgary is same.

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Isn’t the lack of dealer the best thing about genesis?

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Originally Posted by vengie

Vancouver

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This haha. Teslas are approaching California levels out in Vancouver when I was there a few months ago. All the C Classes are here in Calgary tho.

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Originally Posted by cjblair

My thoughts as well, they are really eye-catching.

Maybe I'll buy one for a winter beater in a couple years when they've depreciated by 75%.

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Haha yeah, I am very curious to see how they fare on the used market. Hyundai's own residuals are pretty bad so I am also predicting them to be a great buy on the used market, provided they hold up.