Looks like the drama never stops for Nico. Already called out by the stewards for going too slow during qualifying. But seems like he wasn't in-lap, so he escaped penalty this time.
I'm sure it's going to be another great race.
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Looks like the drama never stops for Nico. Already called out by the stewards for going too slow during qualifying. But seems like he wasn't in-lap, so he escaped penalty this time.
I'm sure it's going to be another great race.
Well apparently airing women's tennis on no less than 69 channels is more important to tsn than flicking the switch on one of their channels to re air qualifying as scheduled.
Ah, well it's not working. I just wanted to throw a Let Them Fight meme up. Team orders are for the guy who finishes second!
Rain:burnout:. Might be a safety car start though, unfortunately.
God damn safety car start.
#hammertime indeed. GO LEWIS GO!!
Safety car start ruined the potential for chaotic strategy. You know it was a fucking dumb decision to have the SC out that long with cars running mandatory wets when 2/3 of the field flew into the pits to change tires as soon as they were allowed.
Drives me nuts these SC rain starts. I dunno if it's a Pirelli issue or what but the SC starts were pretty much mandatory since they became sole tire suppliers.
For those not paying attention to updates Rosberg got demoted to 3rd. 1 point between the 2 now for the WDC.
Pretty text book racing from Hamilton, but the fight for 2nd and 3rd was entertaining. Surprised that Mercedes said something over the radio, especially after the incident where Hamilton was begging them to tell him what mode to put his car into.
In Mercedes defense, the rules state that you're allowed to relay information to the driver to correct a terminal problem. The stewards deemed the settings change and avoiding 7th gear instructions to be within the rules. What Rosberg was penalized on was him asking how to skip 7th gear, where the team confirmed his question. That's what broke the rule.
I think it's a retarded interpretation of the rule, it's all a part of managing the potential terminal failure, and there shouldn't have been a penalty. Regardless, it was a good gamble for Mercedes, 10s penalty and a lost position vs losing a whole lot more points if there was a retirement. Would do it again every single time.
I am biased here. I am a Lewis fan and I think stewards should have thrown Nico out of the race. The problem is I can see Lewis running into similar issue down the road and I am sure if and when he run into this issue if Merc try to radio any message FIA will throw him out saying that we already gave you a warning.
SC start wasn't that bad, it gave us exciting moments like this:
That's a pretty weak opinion, why in the world would radio communication ever get someone kicked out of a race? There are far more egregious violations that result in time penalties or grid place penalties so I believe you are concocting a "Lewis being screwed" conspiracy that just does not exist.Quote:
Originally posted by ganesh
I am biased here. I am a Lewis fan and I think stewards should have thrown Nico out of the race. The problem is I can see Lewis running into similar issue down the road and I am sure if and when he run into this issue if Merc try to radio any message FIA will throw him out saying that we already gave you a warning.
Like I said I am biased here :)Quote:
Originally posted by Stuart
That's a pretty weak opinion, why in the world would radio communication ever get someone kicked out of a race? There are far more egregious violations that result in time penalties or grid place penalties so I believe you are concocting a "Lewis being screwed" conspiracy that just does not exist.
Why would a radio communication get someone kicked out? It is my understanding that assisting a driver via radio communication is banned.
As for conspiracy theory ... lets see why Merc didn't do the same when LH was in the wrong engine mode ? Also if you look at the history there is more than one occasion where FIA has thrown the book at LH.
That wasn't a terminal problem. That was a performance problem. Both Rosberg and Hamilton suffered from it, both drivers asked for assistance and the team refused to give them any information or confirmation on how to correct the issue.Quote:
Originally posted by ganesh
As for conspiracy theory ... lets see why Merc didn't do the same when LH was in the wrong engine mode ? Also if you look at the history there is more than one occasion where FIA has thrown the book at LH.
I know the problem was a Performance problem at the time but LH was going through all the settings which could have caused a major problem. But the bottom line is if they are willing to give instruction to Nico and let him take a 10 second penalty why not take the gamble with LH?Quote:
Originally posted by rage2
That wasn't a terminal problem. That was a performance problem. Both Rosberg and Hamilton suffered from it, both drivers asked for assistance and the team refused to give them any information or confirmation on how to correct the issue.
I never thought there was bias treatment in Merc up until this year but ,
1) Changing the crew
2) Niki Lauda's comments to the TV
3) Toto refusing to say who is to blame for the collision in the last race.
Well I am glad how LH is handling all this and let his driving do all the talk.
Hamilton fans are the worst, lol.Quote:
Originally posted by ganesh
I know the problem was a Performance problem at the time but LH was going through all the settings which could have caused a major problem. But the bottom line is if they are willing to give instruction to Nico and let him take a 10 second penalty why not take the gamble with LH?
I never thought there was bias treatment in Merc up until this year but ,
1) Changing the crew
2) Niki Lauda's comments to the TV
3) Toto refusing to say who is to blame for the collision in the last race.
Well I am glad how LH is handling all this and let his driving do all the talk.
Just realized that Alonso set the 2nd fastest lap!!
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 44 14:22:04 1:35.548 221.957
2 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 43 14:22:18 1:35.669 221.676
3 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 45 14:23:34 1:35.771 221.440
4 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing 52 14:35:22 1:36.013 220.882
5 19 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 40 14:17:08 1:36.141 220.588
6 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing 41 14:17:19 1:36.407 219.979
7 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 44 14:23:20 1:36.933 218.786
8 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 39 14:14:49 1:36.994 218.648
9 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams Mercedes 45 14:25:38 1:37.383 217.775
10 55 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso Ferrari 43 14:21:34 1:37.401 217.734
11 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India Mercedes 51 14:34:35 1:37.618 217.250
12 20 Kevin Magnussen Renault 43 14:23:01 1:37.619 217.248
13 26 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso Ferrari 35 14:08:42 1:37.667 217.141
14 21 Esteban Gutierrez Haas Ferrari 44 14:24:23 1:37.713 217.039
15 11 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 35 14:08:11 1:37.900 216.625
16 22 Jenson Button McLaren Honda 36 14:10:22 1:37.907 216.609
17 12 Felipe Nasr Sauber Ferrari 43 14:22:26 1:38.710 214.847
18 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 36 14:12:51 1:39.755 212.596
19 88 Rio Haryanto MRT Mercedes 23 13:49:57 1:41.380 209.189
20 8 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 14 13:32:54 1:55.507 183.604
21 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 9 13:23:20 2:00.286 176.309
22 94 Pascal Wehrlein MRT Mercedes 4 13:12:00 2:48.804 125.634
That 2nd fastest lap doesn't mean anything. Alonso got fresh tires with 12 laps to go and going balls out. All the other top runners were on old tires and managing race pace. Not even a fair comparison.
Thank youQuote:
Originally posted by npham
Hamilton fans are the worst, lol.