Well if they didn't defeat the NK, there would be no fight to even have in the South haha. Given what we know now though and they were intentionally sacrificed, yeah they might as well have held back rather than suicided.
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One volley was the thing that stuck out to me immediately, not to mention that they just had the Dothraki rush into the dark with no idea what happened. On top of that Ghost was in that first rush, but somehow survived?
Then as I thought about it, having the army in front of the barricades was really silly since it creates a chokepoint for their own retreat. And then once they finally light the trench, nobody on the wall bothers to fire any arrows or anything while the dead's army just stood in front of them.
Is it confirmed the Dothraki didn’t have dragon glass? They’re weapons looked like they had been modified to me... same shape they are used to but the blades were black?
I understand it's a TV show, but there has to be an element of believability to the events. It's not like I'm saying "Dragons don't exist. This battle is bullshit." I'm saying that when the event is planned by, what are supposed to be, strong military minds, like Jamie Lannister, you would expect some semblance of sound military strategy. Instead, they basically sacrifice 20% of their fighting force (conservatively). The logic leap that it takes to understand that blunder pulls the viewer out of the show.
The same logic leap that applies when you ask why none of the supposedly smart people on the side of the living never thought to connect the Night King's ability to raise the dead with the dead bodies that are kept in Winterfell's crypt, supposedly the safest place in Winterfell.
I would just say that my feelings of episode 3 as this (if we're not already assuming spoiler alerts are a given, then SPOILER ALERT):
The Battle of Winterfell was good filmmaking, just bad storytelling. As the climax to the Night King angle, I feel like the Battle was a letdown. Bran continued this arc where he's kinda this monotone waste of space that served no real purpose, not even from an spying/intelligence standpoint. Warging (is that how it's spelled?) into a raven to watch the battle from above helped nobody and leaves Theon and the rest of the Ironborn to defend the human equivalent of a sack of potatoes.
Melissandre's death was the most frustrating thing because the payoff was so minimal.
If the Battle of Winterfell is supposed to serve the purpose of being a battlecry to unite the other families of Westeros against the Cersei Lannister, I can get behind that. But that should've happened in season 7. I'm far more intrigued by what happens in Winterfell now that the North has lost probably half, if not more, of their forces. Not to mention that a number of Houses are now extinct (the Umbers and Mormonts come to mind).
The Golden Company is supposed to be this big bad mercenary army, but with three episodes left, how big of a role can they possibly play?
If you want a quick lesson on the stupidity of battle break open a few history books. So many major battles in history have colossal dipshit moves like taking turns exchanging single shot gun fire with the goal of outlasting the other army or sending in a wave of Calvary to extinguish arrow supply.
It’s a tv show yes, but it’s not that far out to lunch with how battles went down in history (minus the whole dragons, frozen zombies and magical telepathic raven jazz)
In Changping half a million dead because they charged away from supplies to destroy the retreating army while a small group went around the battle, destroyed all the supplies so the 400k opposing forces had no food or water. Boom, lose the war because you’re stupid even though you outnumbered them by 5 to 1.
1415 the French were waiting out Henry the V’s army watching them starve but become irrationally upset when they saw the English flags flying so Charles d’Albret decided to attack. His army moves across rain flooded clay making them easy targets for archers and their gear was so weighed down from the march they were slaughtered. The English lost less than 100 soldiers while the French lost an entire army.
Napoleons stupidity in Moscow, Custer in little big horn, Hitler in Stalingrad, the list goes on and on. Like mentioned before, pride is one cold bitch.
That's a stupid way to kill another dragon. If the production is that expensive, I'd rather it died off in Winterfell.
Get your big bird to fly high and drop some turd on your enemy, not straight in the line of sight you dumb dumb.
overall a MUCH better episode.
Although...how do you hide a whole fleet of ships?
That dragon went down mighty easily :dunno:
I doubt they could fire straight up. Should have hovered and dropped flaming shit bombs.
Biggest news about the episode seems to be about a rogue Starbucks cup.
So who does everyone think is going to end up as King/Queen by the end?
Better yet, can a mod add a poll to this thread?
- Dany
- Jon
- Cersei
- Sansa
- Arya
- Jaime
- Tyrion
- Bram
- Other
- None
My money is on Sansa at this point
Sansa would be great. It could play back to the beginning when she said something like "it was all I've ever wanted"
I'm predicting that exactly what we think will happens is what happens.
Whatever the typical TV trope is, is what will happen, because this season is full of them.
I’m still waiting for something surprising to happen, rather disappointed with this season as far as surprises go. Was hoping for ned stark to find a way back as the faceless man or something.