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I'd buy and run Windoez in bootcamp.
think of all the 8K Beyond threads you can whore in...
during the keynote you could hear the crowd gasp when they announced that price. Who would honestly buy the mount. Even the vesa mount was stupid expensive. I can’t see that monitor mount actually selling more then a few hundred, but I have learned to never underestimate the Apple consumer.
True, people who have no idea what it even does will still buy it for the logo, along with the Mac Pro 6 years from now when it still has the exact same hardware and exact same price lol.
I was reading on reddit from a person in the crowd and he said they all booed it, which threw the presenter off guard haha - I didn't see it myself though.
While crazy overpriced, that pro screen is pretty epic in terms of specs.
Does it really have any true competitors?
It's really not anything special at all from what they have advertised so far.
There is no way to properly and regularly calibrate it with a 14bit hardware LUT and colorimeter from what I can see on their product page. It has true tone, but that is not the same thing and the very first thing you want to do when editing is disable true tone.
If you don't want a glossy monitor (anyone doing critical work does not), the anti-glare coating is another $1000 USD.
6K is not a common resolution, though it is used occasionally in the movie world and IMAX. Very rarely is it ever used for consumption. 8K would have made way more sense if they were trying to wow people with big numbers and offer something future-proof for a little longer.
It can go very bright (1600 nits) but professional editing is usually done in the 90-110 nit range to be accurate.
The number of local dimming zones is very unimpressive compared to other monitors.
I don't see any details on how it maintains a perfectly even backlight even as the monitor ages, but it might have something like that still. Other good monitors do.
Dell offers an 8K monitor for similar money that looks like a better product.
I also don't think any of these monitors can do 100% REC 2020 yet either. Current TV's also don't even come close to covering it, but it'll likely be soon. For that kind of money you'd probably want it to cover all the popular colorspaces.
From what I understand the Apple display completely smokes the dell in terms of contrast and brightness. And has some very interesting hardware features going along with it.
Whether it’s worth 5k is entirely debate able. Time will tell whether it gets any traction.
From what I hear it’s pretty incredible in person, hopefully some local apple stores end up with a demo mode in store because it would be pretty sweet to see in person.
I'm sure it looks amazing to the average person walking through an Apple store or if you want to watch a HDR movie on a super tiny display (though I don't think it's bright enough for rage2 haha). A properly calibrated monitor with accurate color and brightness does not look good to most people (i.e. it will not be juiced up with hugely inaccurate values of brightness, contrast, and saturation). They typically look dull compared to what our eyes are generally conditioned to looking at on our smartphone displays, TVs and computer monitors. The things it seems to excel at don't really go hand-in-hand with professional editing/creative work, and at least based on available information, it is missing absolutely critical features of professional editing/creative work (like a 14bit LUT to keep it calibrated properly). Maybe we don't have all the info yet but from their currently released specs, it's a bit of a head scratcher. Without question it's grossly overpriced, but I think we'd all be surprised if it wasn't haha.
As far as just looking good with general or demo content, an OLED or high end LCD should look better for most things to the average person.
Basically, for critical editing work you'd be better off with a monitor that costs a fraction of that price, and for HDR movies or other general viewing, you'd be better off with a high end TV or projector also costing a fraction of the price, and much larger than 32". It's just an odd product at a ridiculous price IMO.
All they need to do is plug in an Apple TV 4K, and run the 4K HDR screensavers in a loop to blow you away. Calibrated screens only look flat prior to HDR. With wide color and high peak brightness, HDR video pops out with a lifelike realism without the exaggerated colors in showroom vivid modes. OLED looks good, but that peak brightness adds another dimension that OLED simply cant compete with.
That said, it’s overpriced to shit, and no clue who it’s really targeted for. Dolby’s reference monitors that Hollywood uses to master DV runs 4000nits, but costs 6 figures. I guess indie filmmakers that want to master films in HDR would use it?
A $1,000USD monitor stand, how many of the Apple fanboys or ballers will be getting this?
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/sci...1_4451448.html
Does it grate Parmesan cheese?
Seriously though, the honeycomb airvents reminds me of a completely unoptimized version of a Zotac mini pc.
Zotac actually went through mini-pc cases and modelled airflow through the hundreds of honeycomb vents, and would block and open each one (I'm assuming at least a 1 million variation pattern) to figure out optimal airflow given fan design and things like motherboard and cable blockage.
Its actually kind of neat to see the level of AI put into the case openings. This Apple on the otherhand, seems like they put no effort into it.
I always though the Zotac design would be enhanced to allow things like hexagonal blocks made of sound absorbing materials (so that you could put it over a fan spindle, where there is no air movement, but could be used to deaden noise) or popped out to give extra airflow in air cavities that will shift based on whats actually inside the PC.
If this the "best" Apple - I can imagine Dell might come back to be brand leader in a few years. Dell.
After some reading (mostly memes haha) it looks like that $5k monitor and $1k stand is targeted for film professionals as I guessed. It's competing with stuff like this:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...reference.html
So in proper context, it's actually a good deal, and not intended for consumers. Probably never see one in an Apple store.
To be fair they have Mac Pro’s in the Apple stores. What’s 5k to Apple in the context of the floor inventory of the story. It’s worth it just for the hype factor and the half dozen morons who buy them for their home office.
I still think it’s a sweet piece of hardware all things considered.
From everything I've read so far and from people actually in the industry (or claiming to be in the industry), it apparently does not compete with those $30K monitors and the Dell 8K is better for most things - at least based on the info available. There are some very long reddit threads on it as well. The really expensive HDR reference monitors are not only brighter but they support the REC 2020 UHD gamut. The first clue is that Apple, of all companies, would probably be charging $50K for a monitor that actually competed with $30K monitors, and people would buy it.
The simple fact that you can't even calibrate it properly is ridiculous, so perhaps there is some info missing there. I can't find any info on it with regards to something like a 14bit hardware LUT.
I think it is aimed at consumers, because that is mostly likely who will buy it. I would absolutely expect it to be in the stores as they sell even more overpriced products in their stores currently. Serious production companies aren't using Apple monitors for reference (you can't even calibrate their iMac Pro), and I suspect Apple is relying on their fan base to buy the majority of these. The people dropping money on these will be the people who are wow'd by a demo video in an Apple store or because a Genius tells them they're the best, not Hollywood production teams or the like.
It's not necessarily a bad product, it just appears to be grossly overpriced which was expected.
It's basically equipment used by Youtubers to flex.
PC guy's perspective:
https://youtu.be/PPiEpSMkzoo
I could see popular YT channels being the target market for it.
Reminds me of this video, where Apple fans vehemently defended this product until they realized it was fake, and even after, still argued it would have been great LOL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
Linus makes an erroneous assumption about dust. Dust is mostly dead human skin. The only people who can afford these new systems are our Lizard overlords, who shed skin in large clump masses, and hence no dust.
So it is designed properly.
This only confirms to me that AMD and a two system redundant 32-core 750 watt apiece (1500 total) is the way to go (per outlet) for as many outlets as your server room has. Assuming standard 5-15 NEMA.
Intel having too many speculative vulnerabilities, completely nullifies any advantage ECC memory may have. Its also much easier nowadays with low latency gigabit wireless to simply push an X.264 stream of that 1500 watt x however big your server room is beast, to a $100 phone or tablet. Realistically if you don't need constant rechecking of color levels on a per second basis - it will do just fine for compiles. Anyone would do a private screening (probably on a $30,000 monitor) on a final pass anyhow - there actually is very little need to have any sort of pre-compiled accuracy unless you are 3D rendering non-human actors.
If Apple insists on Intel, and Dell goes with AMD - I'm pretty much going Dell. If the $64 Walmart Onn tablet ever got a Huawei 5G chip inside it, that would be my perfect setup.
Cramer says that the iPhone will never be fully produced in the USA.
I agree. If you start shifting production to the USA, then that monitor stand would probably cost closer to $2,000. Would a NBA player even wake up and get out of bed for less than $5 million per year salary?
Thought the new Mac Pro was expensive? Get ready to add a 0
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/26...tariffs-tweet/
Traded my 8700non-k/1070ti pc gaming rig for a 2017 13" MacBook pro as I wasn't really using it and wanted to go back to OSX, but couldn't handle the dual core cpu and only 128gb of space. Sold that to my friend who needed a light laptop for school for $1200. Just ordered a refurb 6core 256gb 8gb mac mini for $1139 and then found a 32gb sodimm kit for $150. This should tide me over until I need an external GPU haha
I'm returning my MacBook Air. Essentially, it runs great, but it can't handle 2 4K external monitors. MacBook Pro on the way for $200ish more.
Hey for you Apple TV people...
Is there any reason to get the 4K version if you will never be feeding it 4K content or into a 4K tv?
Thinking of getting one for the lake for Netflix and rentals etc., where we have a hard 6mbps limit and an older tv.
Any non 4K features you miss out on that I should know about? Wondering if the 29 bucks is money well spent if only to future proof.
It’s way faster. I’ve been slowly migrating my 4 to 4K when they go on sale even before I’ve upgraded those rooms to 4K TVs.
I agree with everything already posted. In addition Apple put a 100 Ethernet card in the 4. Big question mark there. I run my 4 wireless and my 2 4ks hardwire.
Sweet. Good enough for me, speed is key.
This little thing is going to save me a bundle, just going to use my Shaw anywhere account to airplay to it from my phone rather than sign up for dedicated satellite out there. Good enough to catch most sports.
I’m surprised Shaw doesn’t have an Apple TV app. Or any other tv connected device. Just mobile devices only. Weird.
Does the Shaw app work with airplay? I've tried casting it to Chromecast and I couldn't get it sorted
I have never owned an Apple product before and just picked up the new iPad Pro Gen 3 12.9. I want to use it mainly for playing with altering and experiments on paintings I am working on before putting brush to canvas. I would also like to play with fully digital painting. Does anyone use them for this type of activity and any good recommendations on apps and programs they use?
I use Plex on my Apple TV for all my pre-cloud collection. No hacking necessary, Plex is an official app.
If you guys just want to use Plex, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc. for your non-Apple content you can buy an Amazon Fire TV stick, and the 4K versions are faster even if you don't have 4K content. That is the cheapest option and it comes with a remote.
You can also cast anything you can find on the internet from a Chrome tab to a Chromecast or other compatible device.
From what I've read, you can't Airplay Shaw Freerange, can anyone confirm?
I tried to broadcast Shaw Freerange from our Ipad to our media PC running AirServer both via Airplay or Chromecast but it wouldn't play.
Main reason why I'm still running Windows PC for media on all our TVs.
It does not require a jailbreak but does require a signed app. If you are a developer this takes about 2 minutes. If you are not you find a friend who is or pay for a service to sign an app for you which will last for a year then you resign and repeat. The signed app will only work on the device it is provisioned for (you can’t have a app signed for one device and put it on another for example)
Apple TV isn’t the easiest device for Kodi but it runs amazing.
Popcorntime on tvOS or iOS is about as simple as it comes. It takes about 2-3 minutes to start up a movie after selected because it does everything in the background but my 5yr old daughter can figure it out and so can my 70yr old parents. That also requires a signed app and provisioning profile.
Quick google, shaw says nope.
https://www.shawdirect.ca/english/support/article/8324/
No airplay or chromecast or anything.
Yeah i've used Plex to stream some of my older collection and it works really well, but i don't download movies any more so want to try Kodi/Popcorn Time. I've used Kodi on my laptop and it's pretty good but annoying to connect laptop via HDMI every time.. if i can get it working on Apple TV it would be much more convenient and easier for the wife to use.
cool will look into it later. Not a developer and don't know anyone who is but i'd be willing to pay a small fee to get the signed app to work on my device. if you know legit sites that do that, mind PM'ing me if you don't want to list it here?
I always thought Popcorn Time was just a Plex addon? Or am I way off base here?
Quick screen recording from my iPhone sorry about the quality but I was rushing it and wanted a small file to upload. It works similar on the iPad and tvOS.
https://youtu.be/7a5ZS43kmvk
Do you own a Mac? If you do it’s rather simple and I could assist and possibly even sign an app for you. I have limited device slots as I do develop so this isn’t a call out to everyone on beyond :).
If you don’t own a Mac then you would need help from someone who does as the APTV4K only does wireless debugging and that can’t be done on a Windows machine (to my knowledge anyways). All other devices can be done wired. Let me know what your plans are and what devices and I can steer you in the right direction hopefully.
Affinity Designer is also quite good.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/designer/
I spotted the apple map camera car on big hill springs road couple weeks ago. Very little chance that I would use it other than finding myself lol.
my issue is that I don't want to deal with yet another device. Wife hates learning new technology so that's why the apple TV has been such a winner for us. Familiar interface (being an iphone user), automatic keyboard integration with the iphone to type when searching, device mirroring, it all just works seamlessly. The only drawback is they make it very hard to install pirating apps like these lol.
Well the good news is she won't have to learn anything - it's literally just a landing page with giant icons for Netflix, Plex, Kodi, etc. and a remote with 4 buttons on it. You don't need to log into it, you don't even need to turn it off - it could not be simpler. You don't have to type either, it has excellent voice search built right into the remote. You can use any bluetooth keyboard/trackpad combo with it too if you prefer but you never really have to type anything into it other than your WiFi password when you first buy it (or you can hardwire it). Up to you I guess, but it can do everything you want and is ridiculously simple to use - my 3 year old niece can easily navigate to what she wants, or she can just talk to the remote.
*you must spread some reputation around before giving it to rage2 again*
They are both so simple to use I would argue there is no learning curve whatsoever for either platform - you can operate either with the bare minimum input. You have a small grid of giant icons that are largely the same on both platforms, and a straightforward way of navigating to them. If you have an Apple library the Apple TV is great, for everything else the Shield lets you do whatever you want. If all you do is watch Netflix/Plex/Amazon you don't need either device and you can get away with a Fire TV stick or Chromecast.
Ran into one this afternoon in Red Deer on 30Ave. They were going north, I was going south. Didn't know one existed until I saw it. they turned into the Rosedale neighborhood and I turned into it on the south side but couldn't find them. I was on my Husky and wanted to wheelie next to them lol
A bunch of 2015-2017 Macbook Pros just got banned by the FAA due to faulty batteries, make sure you check your eligibility or get the recall performed if you are flying through the USA:
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/m...faa-flight-ban
Samsung has some company now :rofl:
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/08/21...ble-chat-gifs/
Lol. Green bubblers
Apple zealot: "your bubbles are green"
Me: "thanks"
You wonder why we don't chat anymore.
:rofl:
You're all racists
" Sept, 10, 2019 11am (MT)"
2019 iPhone Names
- iPhone 11 (11R)
- iPhone 11 Pro (iPhone 11)
- iPhone 11 Pro Max (iPhone 11 Max)
Expecting:
Triple Lens (Wide angle)
Reverse Wireless Charging (for air pod 2)
Improved water resistance
Multi-angle face id (sensor)
Small Apple Pencil for iPhone?
Triple lens for iPad
assuming the notch is still there
hoping they add usb-c
I'm not ready for USB-C yet. Most of my gear is lightning, and only MacBook on USB-C at this time. Those cables aren't cheap haha.
I was hoping to skip this year's release as nobody in the family needs a phone this year, but with my main focus on my phone being video and photos, I might be buying one anyways.
Anyone want an iPhone X 256? Just AppleCared it, so brand new with case + screen protector. How much are they worth these days anyways?
I'm waiting for AirPods 3. Rumored to have noise cancellation.
What’s the eta date for iOS 13?