Android Thread

And finally, an answer.

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Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Has Google officially announced this or was this a conclusion the author is selling as fact?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...droid-partners

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Bloomberg: Are you killing the Nexus program?

Lockheimer: One of our most popular Nexus devices was the Nexus 5 from two, three years ago now. The reason it was so successful was because we were able to provide a phone with LG that hit the sweet spot in terms of price and performance. Fast forward to 2016, there are many manufacturers out there who are doing that. Now, if Google were to have an opinion about phones what would we do? It’s the deep integration of Google technologies. That’s where Pixel will be different. Android manufacturers have their own ideas about what they want their phones to be about and we respect that. I don’t want to close a door completely, but there is no plan right now to do more Nexus devices.

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Looks like the Pixel has only 2 years of OS updates and 3 years of security updates which is a lot less than say an equivalently priced iphone.

To summarize:
Good
Google assistant
Cheap VR capable
Good materials/looks/sleek
Unlimited full res video/photo storage through google
Great specs
Decent battery
Great Camera
No camera bump

Bad
Not waterproof
Unproven build quality
Google designed but why that chin so big
Single speaker
No OIS
No dual camera on 5.5"
2 years of OS updates only
1080p on 5" compared to other android flagships at 1440p
Price
Also it doesn't come with any headphones at all :rofl:


How is carplay looking vs android auto these days :rofl:

Looks like an Axon 7 for me based on the Pixel pricing.

Pixel phone. Nothing really stands out. No dual camera, camera is as good as S7 as they claimed which basically par. Assistant is just Siri/OK Google rehash. And I'm sure all Android will get access to these updates eventually.

The only bright spot is unlimited raw storage of video and picture. Which I assume will only be available to Pixel devices.

VR headset is cool. I have to see one in person to see if $99 cool. Seems to be a better system than Gear VR.

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Originally posted by GoChris
Looks like an Axon 7 for me based on the Pixel pricing.

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For some reason I was thinking the axon was a 5", but at 5.5" it is pretty close to the XL in specs and features while being half of the price at $520 for 64gb vs the Xl 32gb at $1050 :eek:

I won't spend 1000 bucks on a phone.

The Chinese brand phones are pretty awesome these days, no doubt. Makes it harder to see the value proposition in the Apple, Samsung, and now Google phones.

The Axon 7 is a phenomenal phone for the money, and you get 2 years warranty.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
The Chinese brand phones are pretty awesome these days, no doubt. Makes it harder to see the value proposition in the Apple, Samsung, and now Google phones.

The Axon 7 is a phenomenal phone for the money, and you get 2 years warranty.

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And ZTE is working with CyanogenMod to provide them with what they need to make roms for it. So basically it will get Nougat.

Has anyone been able to order/preorder one of these? The order button is greyed out on Google Play but there is nothing suggesting I shouldn't be able to order.

Also I noticed pretty much every carrier is getting these, even (gasp!) Fido. Only downside is you don't get the amazing Google warranty for free like you do when you buy from Google.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Has anyone been able to order/preorder one of these? The order button is greyed out on Google Play but there is nothing suggesting I shouldn't be able to order.

Also I noticed pretty much every carrier is getting these, even (gasp!) Fido. Only downside is you don't get the amazing Google warranty for free like you do when you buy from Google.

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I am able to order it from Google

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Originally posted by Escape


I am able to order it from Google

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Hmm, weird. I don't know what's going on then.

What's the expected delivery date?

Edit: Works now, weird. Says they dispatch by Oct 20.

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Originally posted by GoChris


And ZTE is working with CyanogenMod to provide them with what they need to make roms for it. So basically it will get Nougat.

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That's good news.

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No its not a virus just a shitty website.

Any Samsung Galaxy Note 7 owners on here?

Looks like Samsung halted production of the Note 7 in light of several cases of the so-called "safe" Note 7's catching fire. These are models that replaced the recalled ones.

Most US carriers have pulled the Note 7 completely and are offering returns/exchanges.

This will probably be the end of the Note 7. No way carriers will sell it again after a second major recall.

As per usual nothing from Canadian carriers as they're probably clueless as to what's going on.

I considered getting a Note 7 when it came out but the price turned me off and I went with an LG G5 instead for half what the Note 7 cost. Dodged a bullet there.

Samsung has been brutal with this recall. They haven't really stated what was wrong but independent tests have pinpointed the problem. Apply enough pressure to the phone, battery gets compromised, and bam.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/07/note-7-rep...photos-recall/

I'm guessing the more you sit on the phone in your pocket, the greater chance it has of compromising the battery.

The problem was actually addressed. The problem was a flaw in the battery manufacturing where traces were either touching or could be compromised.

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Originally posted by firebane
The problem was actually addressed. The problem was a flaw in the battery manufacturing where traces were either touching or could be compromised.

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But now the replacement is starting on fire and being recalled and there has been a stop work order on the 7, while many US carriers are dropping it now completely.

Once a replacement Note 7 burst into flames on a plane, it was game over for the Note 7. Honestly, even if it's completely fixed technically, it'll be tough to recover from such a PR disaster.

My gf's been flying a lot the last 2 weeks, and every flight she's on they're banning either all Samsung phones (WestJet) or banning Note 7's (AC). What a nightmare for Samsung.

Yup looks like the note will have to die. Wonder what the actual issue is because the bad batteries sure seemed like it. Maybe both model of batteries were bad. Banning all Samsungs on wj seems dumb though like a rule made by a mom. I learned that I can trade in my S6 to the Apple Store so I might do that :rofl:

The argument for banning all Samsung phones (at least with US airlines) is that flight attendants had problems identifying Note 7 properly.

The main problem in my opinion is the Lithium polymer specialized shape (rectangular) batteries.

The chances of a tried and true cylindrical Lithium ion battery having problems is very low, so trustworthy - that I tend to look for it in netbook purchases. A lot of them are now in a long bar, that's the one you want - not the ones that look like the battery is a thin rectangle of some sort.

Nothing goes wrong with an 18650.

Sure they tend to be slightly thicker - but not having to worry about the house burning down trumps it for me.

So. I have a OPO, and really wasn't overly impressed with the phone (coming from a Nexus 5, and previously Galaxy Nexus).

I was set on replacing it with the next gen Google phone, but after finding out the outrageous price, I've decided that won't be happening.

Anyone want to give me a compelling argument for (or against) any of these phones?

OP3
Axon 7
Nexus 6P (assuming I can still get one from google)

TIA!

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Originally posted by cjblair
So. I have a OPO, and really wasn't overly impressed with the phone (coming from a Nexus 5, and previously Galaxy Nexus).

I was set on replacing it with the next gen Google phone, but after finding out the outrageous price, I've decided that won't be happening.

Anyone want to give me a compelling argument for (or against) any of these phones?

OP3
Axon 7
Nexus 6P (assuming I can still get one from google)

TIA!

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Pro:

OP3 - Price
Axon 7 - price
Nexus 6P - frequent updates

Con:

OP3 - 1080p weak OLED screen in sunlight.
Axon7 - Slower benchmark given the spec (probably the 1440p display), ZTE products are still banned by US government. So make sure you don't ever work for any government agencies with it.
Nexus 6p - huge. That 0.2" does add a lot of bulk.

Out of the 3, I will go OP3. But if Axon 7 gets Cyanogen, I will go that route instead.

That said, as I said earlier, I'm beginning to be wary of Roms from Chinese manufacturers. So having Cyanogen or official Google behind the rom/os put my mind at ease a bit.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Huawe...-China_id35269

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Originally posted by rage2
The argument for banning all Samsung phones (at least with US airlines) is that flight attendants had problems identifying Note 7 properly.

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I doubt flight attendants will take the time to figure out if you have Note 7, S7, or S7 edge. So a blanket ban on Samsung brand is probably the easy way out.

The fun part is that now airlines has brought in BYOD in flight entertainment systems, I wonder what kind shit show they are going to get when they have to tell someone with Samsung to power off their device for a 4+hr flight.

That Axon phone would be great with Cyanogen on it. I currently have a Nexus 6, was thinking of upgrading this year. 6P is pretty cheap to get now with the pixel release, but it doesn't seem like a huge upgrade from the 6. Never been a fan of Samsung's software so I doubt I would do the S7.

Maybe struggle through life with a 2 year old phone until the spring when more are announced.

Looks like the end of the Note 7... http://www.androidcentral.com/samsun...185.1472152867

Samsung themselves telling owners to stop using their device and power it down.

I wonder if this will be the end of the Note line in general? I hope not.

Such a shame. The Note 7 is such a beautiful phone.

Now the question is, will low end Chinese phones start picking these defunct batteries up for cheap and put it in their phones.

Or use them in other applications (battery banks?) where a more rigid casing is the norm?

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Just bought myself a OP3. Seems to be the best value for great features.

Upgrading from a nexus 5. I love the N5 but this battery barely gets 9 hours of very light use, even after a battery change.

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Originally posted by Xtrema
Now the question is, will low end Chinese phones start picking these defunct batteries up for cheap and put it in their phones.

Or use them in other applications (battery banks?) where a more rigid casing is the norm?

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But is it really the battery as Samsung believes, or a design flaw in the phone? The fact that it happened with a battery that was believed to be good doesn't look good for Samsung's engineering department.

In japan right now with a note 3....been using it super heavily on data for online radio... While navigating all over Kyushu and Mie Prefecture (woot Suzuka F1) with Google maps. And every evening using phone as hotspot for 3 tablets... Been rock solid.. Never had issues with it... Used it on my cheap ass air Canada rouge flight to Japan... 11 hours with no built in entertainment system.... Wtf.. Didn't know they still had this shit... Anyways.. Used my phone for whole flight to watch stuff over their WiFi entertainment system... If I can't do this on the way back because of a blanket ban... On my old school phone... Going to be mad haha.

The 6P seems to have disappeared from the play store.

Anyone know if it will be available directly from Google, alongside the Pixel (they've done this in the past, not sure why they wouldn't now).

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Originally posted by CompletelyNumb
That Axon phone would be great with Cyanogen on it. I currently have a Nexus 6, was thinking of upgrading this year. 6P is pretty cheap to get now with the pixel release, but it doesn't seem like a huge upgrade from the 6. Never been a fan of Samsung's software so I doubt I would do the S7.

Maybe struggle through life with a 2 year old phone until the spring when more are announced.

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My N6 is still on Marshmallow :whipped:

I'm also thinking to go N6P but I'm so invested into micro-usb chargers I'd like to ride it out for a while. Plus my work phone is also micro-usb.

The struggle is real.

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Originally posted by cjblair
The 6P seems to have disappeared from the play store.

Anyone know if it will be available directly from Google, alongside the Pixel (they've done this in the past, not sure why they wouldn't now).

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From what I have read they are completely gone from the Play Store to make way for the Pixel.

My 6P will be for sale soon, few months old, as-new condition.

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Originally posted by jwslam

My N6 is still on Marshmallow :whipped:

I'm also thinking to go N6P but I'm so invested into micro-usb chargers I'd like to ride it out for a while. Plus my work phone is also micro-usb.

The struggle is real.

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You can buy a multi-pack of USB C/A adapters or USB C to Male Data cables for for like $20, it's a total non issue even if you have to replace every cable. You can keep the charge blocks. Also every new phone will be USB-C, so it makes little difference if you switch now or later.

Yeah, it was weird to remove the 5X and 6P as soon as the pixel was announced. I have been checking out the iphone but I think I will just wait for the first sale/price drop on the pixel as I don't really like ios based on use of my ipad.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
You can buy a multi-pack of USB C/A adapters or USB C to Male Data cables for for like $20, it's a total non issue even if you have to replace every cable. You can keep the charge blocks. Also every new phone will be USB-C, so it makes little difference if you switch now or later.

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You don't understand. I literally have 40 cords. At the price they are now that's a lot tougher to swallow than the ~$1.50/cable I've paid for these.

Plus there's the whole wrong resistor issue and the odd cables that are USB-C double ended.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-078-_-Product

It's too late now but Huawei Honor 8 was on sale yesterday for $460 with a $150 JBL BT headset and clear case thrown in.

This is the original dual camera phone with bokeh effects before Apple and really sharp pictures. Downside is no 4K video and no OIS and MIUI is shit. It's on par or faster than OP3 but less battery life by about 10%.

It's a good compromise at 5.2", ppi is great.

The other downside is Kirin proc instead of Snapdragon, custom rom development is lacking.

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Originally posted by schocker
Yeah, it was weird to remove the 5X and 6P as soon as the pixel was announced. I have been checking out the iphone but I think I will just wait for the first sale/price drop on the pixel as I don't really like ios based on use of my ipad.

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Pixel is a mission change. You don't want people to have cheaper options when you go premium. Android already has 80% of market, the reason for Nexus to be around is no more.

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Originally posted by jwslam

You don't understand. I literally have 40 cords. At the price they are now that's a lot tougher to swallow than the ~$1.50/cable I've paid for these.

Plus there's the whole wrong resistor issue and the odd cables that are USB-C double ended.

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I literally said the same 8 years ago on mini and micro switch. It is what it is. Just more cables for my cable graveyard drawer.

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Originally posted by firebane
The problem was actually addressed. The problem was a flaw in the battery manufacturing where traces were either touching or could be compromised.

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That was one, the other problem that I've seen mentioned is that the battery is slightly thicker than the Note 7 case was designed for.

Looks like the Note 7 production has been shut down permanently now. Maybe Samsung will go back and release the properly fixed version as the Note 6 that they skipped :rofl:

I think this is probably the death of the Note branding. Consumers have short term memory but this will be tough to recover from.

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Originally posted by jwslam

You don't understand. I literally have 40 cords. At the price they are now that's a lot tougher to swallow than the ~$1.50/cable I've paid for these.

Plus there's the whole wrong resistor issue and the odd cables that are USB-C double ended.

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40 cords! Haha. I guess that is more of an issue.

What did you do with the change from Mini to Micro?

If the worst thing you have to do is keep a different cord with you though, I wouldn't let that hold me back from getting a phone I wanted.

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Originally posted by jwslam

You don't understand. I literally have 40 cords. At the price they are now that's a lot tougher to swallow than the ~$1.50/cable I've paid for these.

Plus there's the whole wrong resistor issue and the odd cables that are USB-C double ended.

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Just curious. How many of those 40 cords do you actually use/need? For mine, I have a couple in different spots in the house, 1 in the car, 1 in the office, 1 in my carry-on. I guess a couple more if you have a couple cars, but how many more can you possibly use? haha

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Originally posted by cjblair
Just curious. How many of those 40 cords do you actually use/need? For mine, I have a couple in different spots in the house, 1 in the car, 1 in the office, 1 in my carry-on. I guess a couple more if you have a couple cars, but how many more can you possibly use? haha

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Consistently carry 2 around, sometimes 3 - Phone, Work Phone, Tablet
Plus there's all the other random things in the house that charge by Micro USB as well: battery bank, wireless mice (yes I have multiple), bluetooth headset, noise cancelling headphones... And then there's ones that are permanently affixed like Chromecast, Android TV, etc.

So where are the cords?
-Work office
-Home office
-Bedroom
-Living room
-Kitchen
-Car x 2
-Office work bag
-Field work bag

So yes. A load of cords because I have a bad tendency to forget to bring them (hence why they stay in bags) / lose them / misplace them / lend them out and not get them back.

So if you already carry around so many cords, sounds like you would just need like 3 new cords if you got a USB-C phone, no? All your other devices can continue using their existing cords and you obviously have no problem having a ton of them haha.

Google is showing my delivery window between October 21 - 24.

In the USA they get a free VR headset coupon with the pre-order of a Pixel XL - us Canadians just get the 40% exchange rate :cry:

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Google is showing my delivery window between October 21 - 24.

In the USA they get a free VR headset coupon with the pre-order of a Pixel XL - us Canadians just get the 40% exchange rate :cry:

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Oh it is both pixels in the US that get a free day-dream. If we had that here, I probably would have ordered one. Now I wait for a promo like that here or like $100 off because warranty + 128gb is like $1200 :eek:

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Originally posted by schocker

Oh it is both pixels in the US that get a free day-dream. If we had that here, I probably would have ordered one. Now I wait for a promo like that here or like $100 off because warranty + 128gb is like $1200 :eek:

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Yeah if you go all out with max storage and warranty the prices are nuts now on anything from the major brands (they are high regardless). At least they are offering the best specs at the moment, but I could have done without the 10% extra exchange rate gouge. Hopefully they don't drop the price too soon, that would suck for anyone who got one early, and kill their pre-orders for next year.

I don't even fill a 32GB phone, so I went with 32GB XL in Black. It's the same screen as the Note 7/Galaxy S7 apparently, which is awesome.

I don't buy the drops & spills warranty because Google's basic 1 year warranty is already so good, but if I somehow destroy the phone I will be quite upset :rofl: I've turned down enough warranties over the years that if I have to buy something twice, I won't be happy about it but I'll still be ahead haha.

I checked the N6 and it looks like it came out in Nov 15 and had it's first discount in Feb 16. Based on how this sells, I am hoping for that again. I am thinking I need the warranty because I am seemingly hard on phones.

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Originally posted by schocker
I checked the N6 and it looks like it came out in Nov 15 and had it's first discount in Feb 16. Based on how this sells, I am hoping for that again. I am thinking I need the warranty because I am seemingly hard on phones.

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N6P is $50 off right now at Newegg.ca

XDA posted a good article on the sensor the Google Pixels use:

http://www.xda-developers.com/sony-i...-its-features/

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Originally posted by Xtrema
N6P is $50 off right now at Newegg.ca

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If they are discontinued, you would think it would be even cheaper. Way too big for me though, I want around 5" now based on seeing these giants.

Michael Fisher did a quick comparison of some mid-range ($400 USD) Android phones some of you may be considering:

^^^Forget about the moto. Terrible update support/security patches and the phone is like an extra $80 here over the USD price.

Pixel breakdown image...interesting the battery looks like it's in it's own case, surprisingly robust - could just be the diagram though:


» Click image for larger version

I got my Pixel XL today, if anyone has any questions you think I can help with let me know.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I got my Pixel XL today, if anyone has any questions you think I can help with let me know.

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Assuming you sell your 6P for $450, do you feel like it's worth the $600 upgrade? :eek:

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Originally posted by Strider


Assuming you sell your 6P for $450, do you feel like it's worth the $600 upgrade? :eek:

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For me, yes - I've never had trouble justifying annual phone upgrades, even with outright purchases. It's less than $2/day (until next year's release) to have the latest tech in my single most used and relied upon possession on a daily basis. It's a no-brainer for me personally, but I can certainly understand how some people wouldn't feel the same way. The 6P is still an awesome phone, definitely the best Nexus device Google has produced.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I got my Pixel XL today, if anyone has any questions you think I can help with let me know.

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Where did you purchase yours from?

I pre-ordered through Rogers and there has been no updates on the order :(.

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Originally posted by Kg810


Where did you purchase yours from?

I pre-ordered through Rogers and there has been no updates on the order :(.

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Direct from Google and I paid $17 for overnight shipping. They shipped it a day early (yesterday at 6pm I got the notification) and it arrived first thing this morning. I'm going on vacation soon and just wanted to make sure I had it before then.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Direct from Google and I paid $17 for overnight shipping. They shipped it a day early (yesterday at 6pm I got the notification) and it arrived first thing this morning. I'm going on vacation soon and just wanted to make sure I had it before then.

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Love to hear your take on the "best cell phone ever".

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
For me, yes - I've never had trouble justifying annual phone upgrades, even with outright purchases.

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Me neither, when it was $200-$300 incremental to upgrade... but there's a line where the new phone doesn't perform any better or do any more to justify the cost. We see this all the time with iPhones.

Curious about which "latest tech" aspects of the Pixel XL make it worth it, to see if I can justify making the leap myself.
Assistant is now on Nougat phones
Better camera?
Faster processor? I don't think I've ever had my 6P bog down or been left wanting more.
Daydream?

I think the only thing that I find lacking on my 6P is expandable storage, I only have the 32 gb model :( Wish I forked out more for a larger one, but I got it through rogers.

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Originally posted by Strider


Me neither, when it was $200-$300 incremental to upgrade... but there's a line where the new phone doesn't perform any better or do any more to justify the cost. We see this all the time with iPhones.

Curious about which "latest tech" aspects of the Pixel XL make it worth it, to see if I can justify making the leap myself.
Assistant is now on Nougat phones
Better camera?
Faster processor? I don't think I've ever had my 6P bog down or been left wanting more.
Daydream?

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Yeah I can't argue with that. For a couple generations now, phones have basically been lightning fast for all but the most demanding tasks. The performance is better than the 6P, but the 6P absolutely flies as well, so how much you will notice it will depend on your usage. The SD 821 also uses 50% of the power compared to the SD810, so I'm expecting even better battery life. That said, my 6P regularly lasted me 60 some odd hours between charges which is already excellent.

The camera is noticeably better - it is truly outstanding. I don't think you can look at one specific feature and try and justify $300, but as a collection of some smaller things I think the difference is there, give or take. Every high end phone is hugely overpriced these days, so it's hard to look at them as getting any sort of value haha. Video stabilization is dramatically improved, the image quality is better, and every aspect of the camera app is zero-lag, even when shooting rapid fire HDR. It's probably my favorite upgrade at the moment.

Free unlimited full resolution photo and video storage (including 4K) is worth $10/mo or so compared to other manufacturers.

Most obvious things coming from the 6P is it's actually significantly smaller, more so than online photos seem to show. It's surprisingly light as well, but extremely solid feeling - hard to describe but pretty much ideal IMO. Hardware appears top notch, good tolerances, feel, etc. HTC has always made some of the highest quality phones.

Screen is good as it gets, it is a 5.5" version of the Note 7 screen from what I read (and they probably have plenty of spares now haha). The white point is a little cooler than the 6P, but it's not nearly as over-saturated as some other phones. You can turn on sRGB mode as well which according to reviews makes it the most accurate display tested. The screen seems incredibly resistant to fingerprints and oil, I have been using it all morning and it's been pressed up against my face once, there is literally nothing on the screen that I can see even under bright light.

Yes there is a notification light, it's on the left hand corner of the ear speaker and it defaults OFF in the settings, so you need to turn it on.

Everything is instant from a performance/touch perspective, no surprises there. Fingerprint reader is instant, it feels faster than the 6P in the sense that you can just tap it rather than hold your finger on it for a split second. I love the swipe-down on the fingerprint reader to get the notifications bar, and another swipe down to read them.

Double tap on the currently running apps button instantly switches to the previous app, which is very handy. You can use it in split-screen mode too to "triple task". Anyone with Android 7.0 or above can do this though.

Can't test speaker volume/quality until I get home. I read it is very good, but I don't expect it to go as loud as the 6P. Call quality is great, though I've never thought any phone was bad in that department.

Google's new wallpapers are a million times better than before, and you can either have live wallpapers, or have them automatically change every day based on a category you choose.

I do wish it had "double tap to wake", especially since that is an HTC thing. That would be cool.

Has not exploded and/or started on fire yet.

So I ended up picking up a PRIV. Forgot how much I miss the keyboard; definitely disabled the BB HUB features and etc.

On an side note if anyone is interested I'll probably be selling this as I can't see it being too useful to me nowadays. Probably looking to get $250ish. The shipping was killer...
https://getsuperbook.com/

Mine is configured as:
Gold
1080p
US Adapter
1 Micro USB OTG, 1 USB-C OTG
Non-Backlit keys
Suberbook Sleeve

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt

Double tap on the currently running apps button instantly switches to the previous app, which is very handy. You can use it in split-screen mode too to "triple task". Anyone with Android 7.0 or above can do this though.

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Didn't realize that was a new 7.0 feature, man this is so handy.

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Originally posted by BigDL


Didn't realize that was a new 7.0 feature, man this is so handy.

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Yeah I went from not knowing about it to using it many times a day haha. It's much faster than opening the task manager an selecting the last app. It's especially handy in split screen mode.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Free unlimited full resolution photo and video storage (including 4K) is worth $10/mo or so compared to other manufacturers.

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This to me is the only game changer for Pixel.

As we are within weeks away from SD821 version of OnePlus 3 and LeEco Pro 3 coming out at almost 1/2 the price so Pixel hardware is nothing special.

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Originally posted by Strider
Curious about which "latest tech" aspects of the Pixel XL make it worth it, to see if I can justify making the leap myself.
Assistant is now on Nougat phones
Better camera?
Faster processor? I don't think I've ever had my 6P bog down or been left wanting more.
Daydream?

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Other than the Pixel Launcher (which you can sideload on other Android phone if you dare) and potential better software/hardware integration of camera and free cloud storage, nothing else really stands out from all the other Android offerings.

Axon 7 is already Daydream ready. New OP3s with SD821 will as well.

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Originally posted by Xtrema


This to me is the only game changer for Pixel.

As we are within weeks away from SD821 version of OnePlus 3 and LeEco Pro 3 coming out at almost 1/2 the price so Pixel hardware is nothing special.

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Camera and screen quality I think are still two areas where the cheaper manufacturers aren't competing, but there is no denying there are some awesome values to be had like the Axon 7. The Pixels also use UFS 2.0 storage, I am not sure what these cheaper phones use.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Camera and screen quality I think are still two areas where the cheaper manufacturers aren't competing, but there is no denying there are some awesome values to be had like the Axon 7. The Pixels also use UFS 2.0 storage, I am not sure what these cheaper phones use.

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Yup. One plus 3 uses ufs with similar spec as Galaxy S7.

If anyone knows of someone selling their 128gb XL, send me a PM. I don't really care which color. :thumbsup:

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Originally posted by Xtrema


Yup. One plus 3 uses ufs with similar spec as Galaxy S7.

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Androbench on storage start showing up, I hope these number is from a 32GB version because its slower than op3 and galaxy S7.

https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussak...ts/QkF1nn1fWti

Galaxy is 2x faster in both seq read and write.

I am thinking of ordering a LeEco Pro 3 to play with even though I have an S7. Not a ton of reviews out there.

Looks like the Pixels may be more waterproof than advertised - here it survives 1 hour in water (skip to the end haha it's an hour long):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojQneS6Yts

The iPhone 7 failed the same test, despite it's waterproof rating.

Just a basic test, submerged in a bowl of water, nothing crazy for either. Didn't see one for the GS7.

oh mi
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/25/xiaomi-mi-mix/

91% screen real estate.

Charged the Pixel last night for the first time after a full charge, experienced just over 3 full days battery life with ~4 hours SoT, mixed usage, lots of group chats, music/podcasts during commute, sports notifications, Snapchats, few phone calls, light lunchtime browsing, etc. Seems as expected so far in that department. Should get a little better yet when the battery has a few more charges through it.


Pixel XL camera also finally added to DPreview's scene comparison tool:

Link to Comparison

Was super excited for some of the big dog Chinese phones to hit the market. Had my heart set on the new Huawei Mate 9 until i saw that they want $1300.00 for it! (pro model). There are so many good phones that offer aggressive specs to compete with these at a fraction of the price.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/24/huawei-mat...te-9-pro-gtfo/

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Charged the Pixel last night for the first time after a full charge, experienced just over 3 full days battery life with ~4 hours SoT, mixed usage, lots of group chats, music/podcasts during commute, sports notifications, Snapchats, few phone calls, light lunchtime browsing, etc. Seems as expected so far in that department. Should get a little better yet when the battery has a few more charges through it.


Pixel XL camera also finally added to DPreview's scene comparison tool:

Link to Comparison

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A soon to be release LG v20 seems to have a better camera. But so far all testers only have pre-prod copies.

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Was super excited for some of the big dog Chinese phones to hit the market. Had my heart set on the new Huawei Mate 9 until i saw that they want $1300.00 for it! (pro model). There are so many good phones that offer aggressive specs to compete with these at a fraction of the price.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/24/huawei-mat...te-9-pro-gtfo/

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Honor 8 is good bang for the bucks at $400US. How the hell can they justify 3x the cost for Mate 9?

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A soon to be release LG v20 seems to have a better camera. But so far all testers only have pre-prod copies.

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The magic in the Pixel camera is with exactly how the HDR+ mode works (posted detailed info earlier), and also how it deals with noise. Also nothing else seems to come close to it's stabilization (so far). If LG is doing something similar that will be awesome.

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A soon to be release LG v20 seems to have a better camera. But so far all testers only have pre-prod copies.



Honor 8 is good bang for the bucks at $400US. How the hell can they justify 3x the cost for Mate 9?

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Considering they have such a small market share... would you not want to come in at a lower price and try and flood the market a bit before pricing yourself out of the market altogether? Just seems like a poor starting point for a great phone.

Pixel pulled a JJ Abram? :rofl:

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/26/...ve-lens-flare/

Update starting to roll out for 7.1 which adds "raise to wake" and "double tap to wake" to quickly check notifications or unlock the phone sitting on a flat surface. Definitely for the Pixel, not sure about other models.

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Update starting to roll out for 7.1 which adds "raise to wake" and "double tap to wake" to quickly check notifications or unlock the phone sitting on a flat surface. Definitely for the Pixel, not sure about other models.

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I think the 6P always had "raise to wake" as Ambient Display?

Double tap to wake is an HTC thing, the Nexus 9 had it, doubt the 5X or 6P will get it.