Damn Global Warming causing lightning.
People seem to forget that BC and Alberta are very big and mostly covered in forest.
Damn Global Warming causing lightning.
People seem to forget that BC and Alberta are very big and mostly covered in forest.
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According to my record, voting in NDP government is leading cause of catastrophic forest fires. We are 2/2 so far.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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More like fifty years of fire surpression.
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Gotta be more than 5 years
or 100..This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Really, either it was going to be pine beetle, fire, or a combination of both that was going to deal with the issues that people had caused through forestry and fire control. Monoculture forests with limited age diversity..global warming won't help, but we've put ourselves in this spot. Unfortunately we have a lot of cities now being bordered by boreal and interior forests..
Feel shitty for people losing their homes..but those forests will be far more resilient to fire in the future..
Has anyone been through the Columbia Valley area (Fairmont / Radium) in the last few days? We're supposed to be out that way in a couple weeks.
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No fires around there, just deal with smoke which changes hourly. No different than what we're seeing in Calgary right now.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I have gone above and beyond what I should rightfully have to do to protect my good name
Heading out there this weekend, hope its not bad. The Verdant creek fire in Kootenay Park is getting close to sunshine village... hopefully they can contain it or get some rain so it doesn't threaten that area..This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think there was a small fire by Canal Flats, but believe its out now. Is still a little smokey out there...
http://www.terravistabc.com/webcam
I'm in invermere this week, and yeah, no fires, but smoke. It's quite variable hour to hour. Was really bad Monday for a few hours, but right now I'd call it moderate.
Screws up the view bit not much else.
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Plans to go to Vernon in the first week of August are still on.
My friends family who we're staying with are saying that it's just smokey like Calgary. Surprising since the fires are pretty close. Hopefully that holds (or improves).
Maybe the already burnt portions; but these lands are now more susceptible to other devastating effects like landslide, flash flooding, and increased particulates in the waterways.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Historically speaking, forest fires took place regularly and with enough frequency to remove excessive combustibles at the ground level. Relatively speaking, these fires did not fully engage all fuel in the area, a lot of times leaving the canopy and root systems intact. Now we've got a fuel buildup that's contributing to larger hotter fires that now envelop all aspects of the forest. When the roots are burned to ash, there is nothing left holding that material to the hill anymore.
Smoke set into North Van/Pemberton/Whistler areas yesterday/Monday...
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Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
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Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.^^ Fact CheckedOriginally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I say stupid shit all the time.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 08-17-2019 at 11:39 PM.
I'm not going to get in the clear cut debate, but saying it is a 'good way to help' is hilarious at best, and apparent that you've been drinking the logging koolaid. if you mean good as in it removes a potential fuel source to protect humans, sure.. as an alternative to fire for forest ecology...hardly. We wouldn't have the bug infections to the extent we did in the first place had it not been for fire suppression and logging practices that caused monocultures. If you've never heard of fires burning below canopy, youre not giving me much faith on your experience. Most douglas-fir forests are (or at least, were) characterized by surface fires that never turn into a crown fire.. Hell, pointing at pine beetle as causing additional fire is unlikely: "Results were consistent across a range of fuel moisture scenarios. Our results suggest that mountain pine beetle outbreaks in Greater Yellowstone may reduce the probability of active crown fire in the short term by thinning lodgepole pine canopies"This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...10-1176.1/full
He is also correct that if a fire has enough intensity, it can burn through the roots and cause additional issues such as much slides and sedimentation. Short-term bad, but potentially long term good for the ecology of the region (I took a fire ecology course this spring that was examining this). But again the reason we're getting these bigger fires is extended fire suppression. Had small fires been allowed to deal with ground cover, we wouldn't be at the same level of risk.
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Not quite, there was a LOT of abuse and bad practices by the giant forest corporations for 50 years. The 80s and 90s protestors definitely helped shape the change - however, minor clear cuts, in select areas, can certainly help with fire hazard.
Also, historically, there were both minor AND major fires.
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Last edited by Sugarphreak; 08-17-2019 at 11:39 PM.
Again, thriving in what way and what do you mean good for the environment. You seem to be mistaking 'good for the environment' as 'good for the forestry companies'. Having a monoculture stand that has been created through extensive logging has been proven time and time again to be less resilient to climate change, fire, and any other disturbance events (beetles, etc).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's fairly apparent you don't understand basic fire behaviour, and choose to ignore peer-reviewed science. Yes, it kills the whole tree, but when the tree dies it has less canopy bulk density as well as lower fuel loads. Read the link, learn something..or keep your head in the sandWell that is a complete and utter load of crap because the pine beetles infestation that swept through BC usually kills the entire tree. Most of the areas affected were left with areas of nothing but dead standing timber
I am definitely not drinking loggers koolaid, I only sip from the ice cold waters of truth... you are clearly drinking hippy juice on the other hand, and I think they peed in it.