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    Is gutting AHS an option?
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Is gutting AHS an option?
    Probably not. I think AHS is a bad idea by PC, just like the Pheonix pay system.

    We were better off when the province is run by regional boards. Much more flexible in management, less red tape = less cost, even on surfaces there seems to be quite a few CEO drawing huge pay checks.

    Of course, another change will means lots of severances to be paid out. We will be poor for years with nothing to show for it. And as we ages, that's the last thing the government needs.

    Cancelling the premium by Stalmach was also a bad policy.
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    I see at least 10 NDP seats that are not in Edmonton / Calgary that would very likely go conservative.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert...election,_2015

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Is gutting AHS an option?
    The NDP have been spending like madmen. In addition, they have been hiring like crazy - in Edmonton.

    Now perhaps you can tell me how hiring bureaucrats in Edmonton helps AHS in Calgary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    I see at least 10 NDP seats that are not in Edmonton / Calgary that would very likely go conservative.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert...election,_2015
    Given there the 4 seats in Calgary that NDP/Liberal won with close to or over 50%, those will be a tougher nut to crack for UCP. The rest are easy with united right.

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    The NDP have been spending like madmen. In addition, they have been hiring like crazy - in Edmonton.

    Now perhaps you can tell me how hiring bureaucrats in Edmonton helps AHS in Calgary.
    They did quite a few hires in Calgary as well, especially in IT/Project delivery areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    But all it takes is one UCP candidate or support saying death to the gays and it's over.
    This isn't a problem in this province, and no one cares about it. Wildrose was not sunk by that stuff, regardless of what the pundits say.

    Wildrose was sunk because they were going to clean house, and in general their candidates didn't show well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiTempguy1 View Post
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    This isn't a problem in this province, and no one cares about it. Wildrose was not sunk by that stuff, regardless of what the pundits say.

    Wildrose was sunk because they were going to clean house, and in general their candidates didn't show well.
    This isn't accurate. In 2019 a comment like that will likely kill a TON of support. This isn't 2005 Alberta anymore.

    I would say a lot of support for the UCP is already lukewarm at best with Kenney at the helm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lasimmon View Post
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    This isn't accurate. In 2019 a comment like that will likely kill a TON of support. This isn't 2005 Alberta anymore.

    I would say a lot of support for the UCP is already lukewarm at best with Kenney at the helm.

    If people are going to the ballot box and marking it based on a single social issue, we have problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    If people are going to the ballot box and marking it based on a single social issue, we have problems.
    ... if the party doesn't understand that a single issue can sink them, then they have a problem. Kenney obviously doesn't quite get it, with his stance on GSAs

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    Kenney is not going to let a social issue sink the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent.ff View Post
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    ... if the party doesn't understand that a single issue can sink them, then they have a problem. Kenney obviously doesn't quite get it, with his stance on GSAs
    Especially in todays age of the social media keyboard warrior

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    If people are going to the ballot box and marking it based on a single social issue, we have problems.
    It won't be viewed as a single issue though. That's the point.

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    Just amazes me that they still think that focusing on gay kids is at all relevant anymore, and dont understand that just shutting up on it would be a better approach then speaking to it. They're gonna get votes from the right anyway, so why alienate the people who are leaning left?

    All I know is the NDP has done a hell of a lot more for the stuff i enjoy (parks, camping, OHV management, etc) in 3 years then the PCs ever did (other then turn a blind eye). It's gonna be a hard choice for me unless they start stepping up their enviro game (dear lord, i'll be ripped apart on this forum)

    wasnt this topic supposed to be about a pipeline?
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    easy to spend money you don't have

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    If people are going to the ballot box and marking it based on a single social issue, we have problems.
    Tons of people do that. People also vote based on videos their friends share on Facebook. The voting public, generally, is a bunch of neanderthals.

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    The NDP government paid more than $8.3 million last month to electrical utility companies in Alberta.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ower-1.4675611

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    City of Vancouver and First Nation lose their court case in BC Supreme Court:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent.ff View Post
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    All I know is the NDP has done a hell of a lot more for the stuff i enjoy (parks, camping, OHV management, etc) in 3 years then the PCs ever did (other then turn a blind eye).
    While I think the conservatives let things fall apart bad on the OHV front, the NDP have closed or are planning to close a huge portion of land to OHV traffic, and are using flawed science to do so. On that very issue, I want them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abeo View Post
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    While I think the conservatives let things fall apart bad on the OHV front, the NDP have closed or are planning to close a huge portion of land to OHV traffic, and are using flawed science to do so. On that very issue, I want them out.
    While they may be referring to 'flawed' science (i laugh at this, seeing the AOHVA people point to science as flawed due to it not being completed here..), those so called trails were never sanctioned through the Public Lands Act, and therefore OHVers shouldn't be upset about losing something that was never actually theirs to use, except that there was no enforcement under the previous government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent.ff View Post
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    ... if the party doesn't understand that a single issue can sink them, then they have a problem. Kenney obviously doesn't quite get it, with his stance on GSAs
    If you support GSAs, Kenney is actually your friend.

    It's the WR grassroots from the rural you have to worry about.

    Kenney is walking a tight rope of how to appear progressive without pissing off rural populist voters.

    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    If people are going to the ballot box and marking it based on a single social issue, we have problems.
    LOL, you new to politics or something? The way how democracy work is that eventually 80% of policies matches doesn't matter who you vote for. Usually it's down to the last 20% which ALWAYS comes down to 1 to 2 issues.

    On top, most voter only cares about 1 to 2 issues.

    UCP wants you to focus on debts
    NDP wants you to focus on social issues
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