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    Also Vitamin D, if you don't already take it daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretz View Post
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    I’ve often wondered with the worlds largest pandemic with so many positive cases, what information have you heard to help you get better quicker / make yourself more comfortable while on your 2 week quarantine? There must be a guideline or something... I know quite a few people that have had it and were told nothing but stay home. Is that the cure?
    Get yourself a pulse oximeter, so you don't accidentally become a happy hypoxic.

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    He said the majority of outbreaks documented by public health have been in workplaces and schools.
    Legault, however, said primary schools will reopen as scheduled, on Jan. 11
    Sheppard said he supported shutting workplaces and schools, but said he didn’t understand why a curfew was being considered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    Alberta likely not going to be any better but Sask saw a huge spike:


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.ct...1_5254636.html
    I don't know the details of Sask specifically, but the positivity rate is a reflection of who they are choosing to test. If they stop testing asymptomatic people, and only focus on people with active symptoms, you can rest assured the positivity rate will jump up a lot.



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    So, current restrictions "expire" next week. Think we'll see case counts spike from Christmas in the next few days, or nah? And then, will the restrictions be renewed?
    Didn't they just say the restrictions would be in place till at least the 12th now? Not sure where the extra 2 days came from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Didn't they just say the restrictions would be in place till at least the 12th now? Not sure where the extra 2 days came from?
    Probably to see if there is a trend building after testing resume to normal but I thought it was always 12th. Positivity rate was as low as 5% but it's back to 7% today. So another 3-4 days a trend should shows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretz View Post
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    Sooooo much mixed shit out there, it’s hard to know if you are a conspiracy theorist because you look at the numbers, false positives, age group / pre existing conditions for the death count, mislabeled deaths, payouts for padding numbers, no flu cases, masks do very little if you aren’t a moist speaker, big box stores always packed... or a non conspiracy theorist, this is the worst shit and we are all going to die if we don’t listen to the appointed medical professionals that only care about our wellness.

    I’ve read that the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting it, just helps make the virus “more mild”. Also only good for 1-2 months and doesn’t prevent transmission. That said (conspiracy? Help me out), this can and will never go away, ever, just a bunch of people that might get less sick and still need to follow quarantine measures until... ever?

    The stories I’ve heard from nurses I know / the amount of layoffs, closed wings of hospitals, covid wings near empty but still told to put people in hallways, the flu seasons are always a busy time but this year there is hardly any patients can other years, it’s hard not to form an opinion... but that makes me a conspiracy theorist. Or one of my friends clients who’s son was decapitated in a motorcycle accident this fall and it was listed as covid on his death certificate which they are fighting to have changed. I mean, maybe he had a coughing fit because of covid? Must be it and how dare it be questioned? I’m at a loss on all of this and get hammered for being a tin foil hat person although I only call it like I see it (those who know me know my filter is a broken window). Thoughts boys? Shoot me down
    The number I am curious about, is what is the case count if we only take into account PCR tests that were positive within the 1-25 cycles? Eliminate the Positive test results that are specifically known to cause false positives, or not reflective of infection.

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    Probably to see if there is a trend building after testing resume to normal but I thought it was always 12th. Positivity rate was as low as 5% but it's back to 7% today. So another 3-4 days a trend should shows up.
    I could be wrong, but I was positive the lockdown was in place until Jan 10.

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    Great PR.
    Air Canada funded by Canadian government and yet going against the health recommendations by paying influencers to travel and say its safe and fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    The number I am curious about, is what is the case count if we only take into account PCR tests that were positive within the 1-25 cycles? Eliminate the Positive test results that are specifically known to cause false positives, or not reflective of infection.

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    This is a significant source of confusion, and justifiably so. The problem is that COVID-19 and SARS-CoV2 are not really interchangeable terms. COVID-19 is the disease caused by the virus, but PCR only tests for evidence of the virus. If your CT values drop, but you are still suffering from COVID-19 symptoms in hte ICU, you are still a "case" but at that point your infectivity might be low with little or no viable virus still present any more. The problem is that PCR is very useful as a diagnostic tool, but it's not so great as a public health tool.

    I think there is data on the number of people that are tested that don't have symptoms, but have CT values of great than 35 (which is the cutoff). These people are the pool that are false positives. IF you are symptomatic, but have CT values above 35, then it is possible you have another disease, but it's unlikely, based on the unique set of symptoms associated with COVID-19 (ie loss of tase/smell, happy hypoxemia). Since we are not doing asymptomatic testing, my guess is that the rate of false positives that we are seeing in our stats is very low. Probably less than 1%.

    However, published CT values would tell us more about the number of active cases we have identified that are contagious.

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    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/on...d-19-1.5257347

    Looks like kids in Ontario positive rate went from 5% to 20% after holidays.

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    How sick do they get tho?! Nothing like killing your elders for something that affects you moderately
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Great PR.
    Air Canada funded by Canadian government and yet going against the health recommendations by paying influencers to travel and say its safe and fun!

    https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/01...avel-pandemic/
    I read that because influencers travel for work, they're exempted

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    So since schools apparently aren’t a driver of spread (somehow the province with a broken contact tracing system knows this for sure), does that mean that any increase over the next two weeks can be blamed on people breaking the rules? Just like that big spike in the fall is in no way related to schools whatsoever
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    Even if schools were a large source of spread, we would still keep them open.

    You are always free to keep your kid home if that’s your prerogative, but a lot of people rely on schools to be open to live their lives.
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    BC, Sask, Ont and Quebec are facing some steep increases in cases...

    Alberta's are falling?

    This province is not really a compliant populous... WTF is going on?

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    Apparently our MLA's are superspreaders, and them being gone for the holidays decreased our numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Even if schools were a large source of spread, we would still keep them open.

    You are always free to keep your kid home if that’s your prerogative, but a lot of people rely on schools to be open to live their lives.
    this x1000. The keep open / force close decision is only partly due to probability of spread.
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    Under-promise, over-deliver?
    Paramedics even still aren't considered in the first phase despite being in the highest risk, and least protected environments, as well as in multiple locations that are "locked down". Its absurd the prioritization this province is taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    BC, Sask, Ont and Quebec are facing some steep increases in cases...

    Alberta's are falling?

    This province is not really a compliant populous... WTF is going on?
    Less people getting tested, that’s the reason our numbers aren’t going up. In my opinion, this whole thing is a bag of smashed assholes... kids can go to school because the risk of them dying is not as great... just like anyone under 50, but we can’t use the age stat for those that aren’t kids for some reason.

    I like how people can “choose to keep their kids home to keep them safe”... I wish we could choose to go out to a restaurant or andyL’s rub n tug if we decided to as opposed to being told we can’t. Those that can choose not to go out because of the risk can keep doing what they are being told to do, that’s their choice, much like our choices we face with our kids. My son is going back to school, I’ll risk my health for his education based on the numbers. Kids are more hygienic and make better decisions than adults after all when it comes to pandemic spread mitigation.
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