Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[ExtraSlow]

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is that covid graph or a gme moon prediction chart?

hodl bro.

[revelations]

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That analysis is missing several key factors. I've done my own numerical simulations and added them in. We have a classis z-wave setup that will create the "loop chair", which causes, without fail, the warp to the Z region. There's no escaping the mathematics of this, but don't stress about it, it's actually good news.
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damn z waves

[vengie]

1) Stop Testing
2) Cases drop to zero
3) We get back to normal life as this virus will never go away
4) ??????????
5) Profit? (except for the news, which will need to come up with another fear based headline to keep selling)



Vengie is very covid'd out.... Especially when my business is forced closed, yet the malls are wall to wall packed.


Edit: I feel better, thank you for reading

[ExtraSlow]

I do feel like society will "go back to normal" faster than the virus will dissapear. People canot live in fear permanently, it just doesn't work. Now, as to what the governments will do, as usual, I think they will be a few steps behind the public sentiments on this matter.

[rage2]

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There seems to be a fundamental trust of government in bc I don’t think I’ll ever understand.

Same can be said about AB distrust of government lately haha. Although I'm not sure if it's distrust or hatred at this point. Probably more hatred.

[killramos]

Half the province hates the current provincial government. The other half never liked government in the first place. Haha

[ExtraSlow]

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Half the province hates the current provincial government. The other half never liked government in the first place. Haha

I always like the discussions of provincial vs federal responsibility. There's a significant portion of the population that would prefer to remove government from most issues.

[TurboMedic]

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Real head shaker there...

Models are always right everyone know that

Do you feel the models were far off? Would you rather just YOLO this one this time? Considering the how on the edge we were at this last peak?

[Buster]

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I do feel like society will "go back to normal" faster than the virus will dissapear. People canot live in fear permanently, it just doesn't work. Now, as to what the governments will do, as usual, I think they will be a few steps behind the public sentiments on this matter.

The virus is never disappearing. But I think that peoples' behaviors will outlast the point where there are sifnificant covid outcomes happening (ie people dying and going into the hospital). I think we underestimate the psychological trauma this has had on people. Many of us will be fucked in the brain like depression era people were.

[FraserB]

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Do you feel the models were far off? Would you rather just YOLO this one this time? Considering the how on the edge we were at this last peak?

When someone's model is called inaccurate and misinformation by the CMOH, I think they tend to lose some credibility; especially when they are also being used to try and push Covid Zero. Her whole Twitter feed seems to be variant hysteria.

[killramos]

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Do you feel the models were far off? Would you rather just YOLO this one this time? Considering the how on the edge we were at this last peak?

To answer your question I haven’t seen many covid models that were subsequently proven substantially correct, have you?

I think my views have always been relatively consistent through this in that I generally believe people should be free to determine their risk level and level of precautions they want to take. I don’t presume to tell what people to do and not to do, and resent people who want to impose their risk tolerance levels on me. If that’s a “yolo” mentality, I’ll leave that to you to judge.

Do you genuinely believe that at any point in the last year Canada has been “on the edge”? That seems a bit dramatic to me but to each their own.

Looking back at the response it’s going to be very interesting to compare the long term societal damage that has been done relative to the impact of the virus itself.

[jutes]

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Do you feel the models were far off? Would you rather just YOLO this one this time? Considering the how on the edge we were at this last peak?

Trashing our economy, present and future, nevermind all the mental issues with job losses and disconnecting from each other solely based on healthcare capacity is fucking ludicrous. Listening to public health above anything else is what got is in this mess. At some point we need to seriously consider the risk to our vulnerable vs decimating our society, financially and mentally, and make the decision on what’s more important.

[Buster]

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Trashing our economy, present and future, nevermind all the mental issues with job losses and disconnecting from each other solely based on healthcare capacity is fucking ludicrous. Listening to public health above anything else is what got is in this mess. At some point we need to seriously consider the risk to our vulnerable vs decimating our society, financially and mentally, and make the decision on what’s more important.

We have decent data now on jurisdictions which have pursued your suggested strategy. It was ugly.

[tch7]

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Do you feel the models were far off?

800,000 cases (AHS Model, Apr 7th & 28th, 2020. "Probable" scenario for cases by end of summer 2020)
16,739 cases (Actuals, Sep 21, 2020)


Only a 98% shortfall. But I'm sure they've got the models right this time.

Sources:
https://calgaryherald.com/news/kenney-covid-19-address/
https://globalnews.ca/news/7348529/a...-september-21/

[Buster]

The same model builders are the ones causing the hysteria over the other variants too

[revelations]

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We have decent data now on jurisdictions which have pursued your suggested strategy. It was ugly.

How many more elderly/ill folks died?

[Buster]

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How many more elderly/ill folks died?

It's worth reading up on what happened and is happening in Manaus.

[revelations]

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It's worth reading up on what happened and is happening in Manaus.

I dont even know where that is.

What I would use instead, is a place like South Dakota, thats close by, a prarie area, with low pop density - which did close up last year, but were far more liberal in the closures - and then the reopening. (I have no idea what their numbers were like later in the year)

[ThePenIsMightier]

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800,000 cases (AHS Model, Apr 7th & 28th, 2020. "Probable" scenario for cases by end of summer 2020)
16,739 cases (Actuals, Sep 21, 2020)


Only a 98% shortfall. But I'm sure they've got the models right this time.

Sources:
https://calgaryherald.com/news/kenney-covid-19-address/
https://globalnews.ca/news/7348529/a...-september-21/

Quoted for truth. They are inexcusably inaccurate.

[jutes]

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It's worth reading up on what happened and is happening in Manaus.

Who knew that a third world country with already limited healthcare is having issues dealing with an unhealthy population. After all the hysteria their death rates are a fraction of overall population.

I’ll say it again, 9 million die every year due to starvation around the world, a number that’s growing faster than Covid cases and deaths. No one gives a shit.