Climate change discussion.

[Xtrema]

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Jeremy Clarkson says 'idiot' climate activist Greta Thunberg has killed the car show.

https://www.insider.com/jeremy-clark...r-show-2019-11

Climate change or not, kids are not interest in cars any more. Just look at Japan.

Internet means cars are not the only way to achieve freedom.

[ZenOps]

Completely related topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Sauna_Championships

What is the limit of human tolerance for heat? Seems to be 5 minutes at 110 Celsius (Yes, that is above boiling) The greater question is, what is the average human limit tolerance for heat over a day or weeklong heatwave.

Seems to be around the 40 Celsius range and very strange heat issues start to develop, including mental health (temporary insanity, suicidal tendencies, rage, etc.)

I'd suggest that middle eastern rage might in no small way be due to heat. It would also explain why every Texan has a shotgun and will shoot anything that crosses their property line. While cold simply means "Netflix and chill" or "Console weekend" in this modern world, heat means abject pain and human suffering.

Bonus heat road rage.

[speedog]

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Climate change or not, kids are not interest in cars any more. Just look at Japan.

Internet means cars are not the only way to achieve freedom.

I've got two adult kids who don't own a vehicle and one of them doesn't see one in their future at all. Uber and the transit system work for them. Hell, I used to work with a guy in the 80/90's who didn't own a car and his wife and him raised a family without owning a car as well. They owned a home in Renfrew so a lot of the amenities they required were nearby, they were cyclists, used taxis and rented vehicles when they needed to which wasn't often. And the Internet, well if they're craving something they'll just have it delivered using one of the multiple food delivery services.

I guess you could say they adjusted their lifestyle somewhat to do this but I have to honestly admit that if it were just my wife and I and we both had office jobs downtown, then owning a vehicle could be questionable as we have many amenities within a 20 minute walk of our home.

And even at that , we were a one vehicle family until I resigned from TELUS - my eldest would've been 15 at the time and the youngest was 9. Four kids (3 of our own and an adopted one) and we made it all work, didn't even seem all that difficult and even now, my big ass work Suburban sits when I'm not working. We could easily still get by with one vehicle if it weren't for my current job.

[ExtraSlow]

Yep, it's not that hard to be a one vehicle family if you are even halfway organized. And vehicles have fixed monthly costs no matter how much you use them. Just insurance, registration and annual maintenance is like $1500-$2000/yr before you drive anywhere.
Fuck, i have too many vehicles I guess.

[speedog]

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Yep, it's not that hard to be a one vehicle family if you are even halfway organized. And vehicles have fixed monthly costs no matter how much you use them. Just insurance, registration and annual maintenance is like $1500-$2000/yr before you drive anywhere.
Fuck, i have too many vehicles I guess.

Being organized helps plus we had all 3 levels of public schooling within 4 blocks of our home and the UofC and MRU are both on direct bus routes from our home. Downtown is a direct bus route as well. Outdoor pool 2 blocks away, ODR 2 blocks as well.

[ExtraSlow]

For sure, your neighborhood is great. Makes places like Cranston seem pretty crazy . . . .

[speedog]

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For sure, your neighborhood is great. Makes places like Cranston seem pretty crazy . . . .

When we bought here 23+ years ago, proximity to the things I've listed were priorities for us. The outdoor pool being that close, it was like a summer babysitting service for us, a cheap annual family pass meant the kids were regulars there and we didn't have to accompany them past a certain age. Schools that close, the kids often came home for a hot lunch even in senior high school. Hell, 26.5 years at TELUS was pretty much all transit and I didn't even work downtown for 7 years.

[pheoxs]

Say each car costs you 600 a month (car itself + maintenance + fuel + insurance). How much better of location could a couple get for 1200 a month extra on rent/mortgage. I'd 100% rather be walking distance to work than drive even if it means sacrificing other aspects. Although groceries and transit does suck so having one car is still nice (miss car2go)

[89coupe]

40 years of ice coverage.

[pheoxs]

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40 years of ice coverage.

Northern hemisphere is gonna keep getting fucked hard.

[89coupe]

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Northern hemisphere is gonna keep getting fucked hard.

Fucked from what?

[pheoxs]

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Fucked from what?

Look at the differences in ice. Antartica although a small portion of it shrank, is much less affected than the Arctic which has shrunk a lot. We're losing ice much faster up here, as well as there was an article a few months ago that Canada is warming at twice the global average.

[Cagare]

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Look at the differences in ice. Antartica although a small portion of it shrank, is much less affected than the Arctic which has shrunk a lot. We're losing ice much faster up here, as well as there was an article a few months ago that Canada is warming at twice the global average.

Is it just me or did the ice actually increase between 2012 and 2019?

Can anyone please coherently explain to me the risks of losing sea ice?

[pheoxs]

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Is it just me or did the ice actually increase between 2012 and 2019?

Can anyone please coherently explain to me the risks of losing sea ice?

oh ... I see. Also it was posted to climate skeptics. Guessing it's cherry picked years and months just to show a minor increase.

[90_Shelby]

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oh ... I see. Also it was posted to climate skeptics. Guessing it's cherry picked years and months just to show a minor increase.

Is the image of the polar bear present to remind everyone that despite sea ice reduction concerns, polar bear populations continue to increase?

[kertejud2]

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Fucked from what?

Shrinking ice and change in arctic temperatures is having an effect on the polar jet stream causing it to resonate significantly more which brings warm air north (causing things like permafrost melting and releasing methane pockets which further adds to warming, also leads to much more extreme spring melting which can lead to greater flood risks) as well as bringing cold air south (like the polar vortexes, which can really mess up food production as well as have a crippling effect on flora and fauna and general biodiversity).

[revelations]

Anyone else looked into the new Solar Cycle 25, predictions?

Apparently we might be headed towards some kind of solar minimum - which means a significant temp reduction long term.

The Maunder and Dalton minimums corresponded with significant global cooling. Even around the early 1900s, parts of the oceans froze on the West Coast on a regular basis.

If so, anyone with an EV will be suffering vastly reduced range, up north.

[ExtraSlow]

I think it's safe to say that "the science isn't settled" on our ability to predict solar cycles.

Solar minimum would be a much bigger deal than any change in CO2 emissions though. I don't think that statement should be controversial.

[89coupe]

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Shrinking ice and change in arctic temperatures is having an effect on the polar jet stream causing it to resonate significantly more which brings warm air north (causing things like permafrost melting and releasing methane pockets which further adds to warming, also leads to much more extreme spring melting which can lead to greater flood risks) as well as bringing cold air south (like the polar vortexes, which can really mess up food production as well as have a crippling effect on flora and fauna and general biodiversity).

You mean like what happened back in the early 1900’s where we had the worst droughts and the worst flooding in modern human history?

Fuck, humans were doomed. I bet they predicted in 10 years we were all gonna die.

[revelations]

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I think it's safe to say that "the science isn't settled" on our ability to predict solar cycles.

Solar minimum would be a much bigger deal than any change in CO2 emissions though. I don't think that statement should be controversial.

I dont think its about predicting the next cycle - its about trend observation.

Solar cycles/minimums have been correlated with global temperatures for about 500 years - yet here we are getting mass media horseshit up our noses about the earth warming up 1000 degrees and all of us dying off, while the solar cycle indicates that we are headed towards a global cooling event.