2020 US Election mega thread

[ThePenIsMightier]

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By what process do such poor candidates become the nominees? I'm aware how primaries work, but they seem to routinely produce more chaff than wheat.

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Being rich

If I'm poor, how cans I also be rich?
How much do you want to tell me your secret? I can send you a money order.

[killramos]

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If I'm poor, how cans I also be rich?
How much do you want to tell me your secret? I can send you a money order.

You just need to be morally bankrupt first, then the money starts flying in

[atgilchrist]

By and large the same way AB wound up with Stelmach. Anyone who sticks their head out too far, appears polarizing, or divides the party base will have a relative set level of support, but will be everyone else's third choice. The Dems have the added wrinkle of being simultaneously the New York Wall St party and the left wing option. Bernie and Bloomberg are in no way, shape or form politically similar, but were both fighting for the Democratic primary. The socialists can't stand the pro-business crowd, and vice versa.

Effectively, they eat their own, and the most inoffensive middle option takes the prize. It's how the parties have wound up with Biden, Jimmy Carter, Bobe Dole, Al Gore, John Kerry, John McCain, and many others.

Every once in a while, someone generates enough charismatic support to change things a bit - think Obama, Trump, JFK. Bernie has this charisma, but his policies are untenable to most thinking people.

[sabad66]

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By and large the same way AB wound up with Stelmach. Anyone who sticks their head out too far, appears polarizing, or divides the party base will have a relative set level of support, but will be everyone else's third choice. The Dems have the added wrinkle of being simultaneously the New York Wall St party and the left wing option. Bernie and Bloomberg are in no way, shape or form politically similar, but were both fighting for the Democratic primary. The socialists can't stand the pro-business crowd, and vice versa.

Effectively, they eat their own, and the most inoffensive middle option takes the prize. It's how the parties have wound up with Biden, Jimmy Carter, Bobe Dole, Al Gore, John Kerry, John McCain, and many others.

Every once in a while, someone generates enough charismatic support to change things a bit - think Obama, Trump, JFK. Bernie has this charisma, but his policies are untenable to most thinking people.

[Antonito]

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Going full Q, eh? It's hilarious that some of you are still going with the "draining the swamp" bit, when it's been clear for years that Trump is merely swapping out swamp dwellers for his own swamp-water dwelling sycophants.

Biden is an astonishingly bad candidate as well. It's crazy that this is the best the US can do.

Yeah Biden sucks. Even watching nitwits casually discussing the logistics of overthrowing democracy barely gets me riled when the next 5 months is going to be watching Trump and Biden compete to see who is less senile and creepy while agreeing on a lot of policy

[max_boost]

Idk how Trump does it. He always seems ready to rumble. You look at the left, either fumbling constantly or if they get worked up, they gonna get a heart attack Idk.

[Tik-Tok]

The nice thing about the US system is that they can only be in power twice. Unlike us. We should have that same rule.

[ZenOps]

Biden is right on oil though. They don't and won't need oil for a solid year now.

[Buster]

Democrats spend years trying to "prove" Trump is a racist and corrupt.

Democrats then nominate someone who is demonstrably racist and demonstrably corrupt.

Fascinating.

[Antonito]

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Democrats spend years trying to "prove" Trump is a racist and corrupt.

Democrats then nominate someone who is demonstrably racist and demonstrably corrupt.

Fascinating.

I got excited to think that you were talking about Bidens 1994 crime bill, and then I realized by the quotes around "prove" that you're not actually serious about this and picking the low hanging fruit of what Biden said to the black guy last week and Obamagate

[Buster]

I can't recall trump ever saying anything close to as racist as what Biden said last week to ctg

[Misterman]

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Going full Q, eh? It's hilarious that some of you are still going with the "draining the swamp" bit, when it's been clear for years that Trump is merely swapping out swamp dwellers for his own swamp-water dwelling sycophants.

Biden is an astonishingly bad candidate as well. It's crazy that this is the best the US can do.

Nope. Didn't mention anything about red shoe cults, or worldwide pedophile rings. It's not a conspiracy to say that Trump is trying to get justice for all the illegal shit that went on before he got elected, and continued afterwards. We know these things happened, the paper trails are all there. Whether one thinks Trump is just the next in a long line of corrupt Politicians who now wants to run his own scheme, is up to your own opinion. My only care is that the choice is between Trump or Biden, and Trump sure as fuck can't do worse than Biden.

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Being rich and corrupt

FTFY

[Tik-Tok]

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I can't recall trump ever saying anything close to as racist as what Biden said last week to ctg

Calling all Mexican illegal aliens, rapists, seems more racist to me. I'm not black or Hispanic though, so I can't really be the judge of that.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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I can't recall trump ever saying anything close to as racist as what Biden said last week to ctg

Here's a tiny sample of (sourced) instances:

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/com...mp_is/edfm15w/

More:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci...mp?wprov=sfla1

Even more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileWhit...ukh/?context=3


He's a pretty well documented racist with too many instances to reasonably keep track of, and there are 448 pages of evidence (created by a fellow republican) detailing the tip of the corruption iceberg if you care to read it haha. You can also look at all his ongoing lawsuits, most of which have to do with corrupt practices.


Here's a good one:

"I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. [...] And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."

Biden is no saint but I don't think anyone wants to have a racist/corruption competition with Trump haha - he's got them all beat by a country mile.

[Misterman]

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Calling all Mexican illegal aliens, rapists, seems more racist to me. I'm not black or Hispanic though, so I can't really be the judge of that.

That would be more racist. Except Trump never said that. It's wild how many people will just read a shock title from an MSNC Opinion piece, and take it as gospel. Trump saying that child traffickers and drugs are coming across the border from Mexico is pretty damn accurate. But It's a far cry from saying ALL Mexicans are Rapists and Criminals!!

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Here's a tiny sample of (sourced) instances:

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/com...mp_is/edfm15w/

More:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci...mp?wprov=sfla1

Even more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileWhit...ukh/?context=3


He's a pretty well documented racist with too many instances to reasonably keep track of, and there are 448 pages of evidence (created by a fellow republican) detailing the tip of the corruption iceberg if you care to read it haha. You can also look at all his ongoing lawsuits, most of which have to do with corrupt practices.


Here's a good one:

"I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. [...] And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."

Biden is no saint but I don't think anyone wants to have a racist/corruption competition with Trump haha - he's got them all beat by a country mile.

And if any of this is accurate, it blows me away that it isn't being used as ammo. MSM keeps repeating same non racist BS like above to try and paint Trump that way, but here is a litany of gold for Dems to use and they just choose not to? Weird to say the least.

[sabad66]

I wonder if Tom Arnold has made any progress finding the n-word tapes. I hope someone has them and is just sitting on them waiting to leak them once it is closer to Election Day. I’m sure they exist but I can see why Hollywood execs would keep them hidden even if they are anti-trump.

[pheoxs]

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Here's a tiny sample of (sourced) instances:

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/com...mp_is/edfm15w/

More:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci...mp?wprov=sfla1

Even more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileWhit...ukh/?context=3


He's a pretty well documented racist with too many instances to reasonably keep track of, and there are 448 pages of evidence (created by a fellow republican) detailing the tip of the corruption iceberg if you care to read it haha. You can also look at all his ongoing lawsuits, most of which have to do with corrupt practices.


Here's a good one:

"I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. [...] And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."

Biden is no saint but I don't think anyone wants to have a racist/corruption competition with Trump haha - he's got them all beat by a country mile.

Cmon now, you are supposed to blindly ignore EVERYTHING that trump does or says then bitch that he never said that.

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That would be more racist. Except Trump never said that. It's wild how many people will just read a shock title from an MSNC Opinion piece, and take it as gospel. Trump saying that child traffickers and drugs are coming across the border from Mexico is pretty damn accurate. But It's a far cry from saying ALL Mexicans are Rapists and Criminals!!

When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Umm, he pretty clearly is trying to indicate most of people coming from Mexico are bringing crime and/or are rapists. The and some are good people is just typical trump talk to be able to walk something back later and say he never said that

[Buster]

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Calling all Mexican illegal aliens, rapists, seems more racist to me. I'm not black or Hispanic though, so I can't really be the judge of that.

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Here's a tiny sample of (sourced) instances:

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/com...mp_is/edfm15w/

More:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raci...mp?wprov=sfla1

Even more:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileWhit...ukh/?context=3


He's a pretty well documented racist with too many instances to reasonably keep track of, and there are 448 pages of evidence (created by a fellow republican) detailing the tip of the corruption iceberg if you care to read it haha. You can also look at all his ongoing lawsuits, most of which have to do with corrupt practices.


Here's a good one:

"I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. [...] And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks."

Biden is no saint but I don't think anyone wants to have a racist/corruption competition with Trump haha - he's got them all beat by a country mile.

I'm pretty familiar with a lot of this, but I don't find a lot of it verified, convincing, or in some cases racist. Generally the same people who get upset at Trump are the same people who think "Chinese" is a race. Or "Mexican" is a race.

Trump has never said anything as egregious as "you're not black if you don't vote for me"

Lol. Ironically, he was basically just articulating the tacit racism that the Democrats generally display with the way they treat the black vote.

[Misterman]

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Umm, he pretty clearly is trying to indicate most of people coming from Mexico are bringing crime and/or are rapists. The and some are good people is just typical trump talk to be able to walk something back later and say he never said that

LOL, Ah yes, the go to Liberal play book. If he didn't actually say anything racist, then just "Read between the lines" to show everyone he that he meant to be racist.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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I'm pretty familiar with a lot of this, but I don't find a lot of it verified, convincing, or in some cases racist. Generally the same people who get upset at Trump are the same people who think "Chinese" is a race. Or "Mexican" is a race.

Trump has never said anything as egregious as "you're not black if you don't vote for me"

Lol. Ironically, he was basically just articulating the tacit racism that the Democrats generally display with the way they treat the black vote.

I dunno, saying that he hates that black people are handling his money and that they have laziness bred into them, in my opinion anyway, is far worse than what Biden said. Trumps comments show a pretty clear genuine hatred towards them (just for being black), Biden's recent comment was dumb and insensitive, but didn't really seem to have any hate behind it. Trying to decide which comments are more racist than others is something that we shouldn't even have to discuss, but that's what the USA is working with haha.

They're both old white guys from the same era, they put their foot in their mouth all the time when held to today's PC standards in a world full of Karens, but nobody even comes close to Trump in terms of racism and corruption. Not to mention his extremely creepy relationship with his daughter - he told Rolling Stone magazine that he would bang his daughter if they weren't related ffs lol.