Trump, his bullshit never stops

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If your neighbour has 10x the power than you, ya you will pay attention to wtf they are doing. Yea we are fked too especially with the NDP and LIBs in bed together now. Welcome to the new socialist paradise. Also, o’toole looking just fine in parliament. Gimme covid and open it all up

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What's with the Redlyne italics @maxboost ?

[The_Rural_Juror]

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What's with the Redlyne italics @maxboost ?

I don't know but it's cool.

[Kobe]

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Why should I care?
I don't pay taxes in the states, our Canadian currency is worth fuck all to the USD, our country is $1 Trillion+ in debt.

Sounds like we should be working on ourselves rather than caring about elsewhere, No?

Here is the DXY (Dollar Index) at the top and USD/CAD at the bottom

See if you can find any similarities..


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[A790]

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In your opinion.

I'd imagine the word "disaster" in your vocabulary is similarily twisted along the lines of what is a "white supremecist" in the left's eyes. A definition wholly removed from what the word means.

Kertejud2, his bullshit never stops

Would be a good thread title. Not that it is surprising most TDS sufferers also are afflicted by the ABCs.

Since the UCP showed up, my property taxes have gone up (I also own rural property outside of Calgary), doctors are leaving the province, and he's made us a laughingstock internationally with this pathetic "Canadian Energy Centre" bullshit.

Oh, and he also killed all the grants that were spawning a bunch of tech/digital startups. That sucked to lose that revenue stream/customer base.

For the most part, they've handled Covid well. Not perfect but well within a reasonable expectation.

Maybe not a disaster, but you'd have to be an ideologue to think they've done a good job overall.

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What's with the Redlyne italics @maxboost ?

Idk why I do what I do lol

[dirtsniffer]

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People have been awfully quiet about the disaster that is our provincial government. The silence has been deafening.

What's the alternative? The ndp, a party that is actively trying to block tmx and Alberta resource development in general. No thanks

[killramos]

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What's the alternative? The ndp, a party that is actively trying to block tmx and Alberta resource development in general. No thanks

Kert just wants more overpaid government jobs because he/she whatever they are thinks the government can be the economy.

[kertejud2]

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Kert just wants more overpaid government jobs because he/she whatever they are thinks the government can be the economy.

UCP is the party pushing to create more government jobs (jobs that are already being paid for by a different level of government) but whatever floats your boat.

I can be whatever you want me to be big guy. Not sure why it matters so much to you.

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Since the UCP showed up, my property taxes have gone up (I also own rural property outside of Calgary), doctors are leaving the province, and he's made us a laughingstock internationally with this pathetic "Canadian Energy Centre" bullshit.

Oh, and he also killed all the grants that were spawning a bunch of tech/digital startups. That sucked to lose that revenue stream/customer base.

For the most part, they've handled Covid well. Not perfect but well within a reasonable expectation.

Maybe not a disaster, but you'd have to be an ideologue to think they've done a good job overall.

Perhaps a discussion for a different threat. But I have stated these arguments before.
Its a open market, people(doctors) are free to leave if they do not like the job as like any. There is not a shortage of doctors. However there is a issue of good medical staff being filtered out because the system is currently gamed against them because their english expires. How a person english expires I will never know. Lets have a poll.. can a persons english actually expire in Alberta?

As for the startups. There was never a revenue base/stream with tech startups to begin with. The foundation of that was all wrong. The tech startups could not hire enough developers. The universities could only produce so much per year.
Margret Thatcher moved part of the UK economy to Financial services. That took 10 years with the development of Canary Wharf. How was Calgary going to be a tech centre overnight? The tech startup was never going to happen with grants. It was money thrown around for the feel good factor and to generate votes in Notleys favour in a few years. If there was going to be grants, it was better spent on the infrastructure on universities and schooling. Even then that would take a decade in the grand scheme of things.

If one lives in a household and the spouse grabbed the credit card and went on a crazy spending spree knowing they would need to be accountable. Then that was the NDP. Now they can sit back and blame the other spouse for having gruel for dinner and the cuts they are making for the household budget.
I dont think the UCP is perfect. But NDP was three moves ahead on this, and they were serving themselves.

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Perhaps a discussion for a different threat. But I have stated these arguments before.

Its a open market, people(doctors) are free to leave if they do not like the job as like any. There is not a shortage of doctors. However there is a issue of good medical staff being filtered out because the system is currently gamed against them because their english expires. How a person english expires I will never know. Lets have a poll.. can a persons english actually expire in Alberta?

Mate, my anectodal experience is very different than what you're stating. Unfortunately, I'm an idiot that ignored warning signs for a long time and now I've got nerve damage, chronic pain, and so on. Because of a lack of availability of specialists, one of whom left and moved to BC two months ago, the wait time to see a nerve specialist is a bit longer.

Now maybe that isn't the UCP directly. But I work with a lot of doctors and none of them are very happy. My radiologist buddy is looking at moving to the USA as he'd rather get paid a lot more if he has to deal with bullshit anyway.

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As for the startups. There was never a revenue base/stream with tech startups to begin with. The foundation of that was all wrong. The tech startups could not hire enough developers. The universities could only produce so much per year.

Again, my anecdotal experience is very different than yours. I currently work with three tech startups that were able to secure grant funding prior to the programs being canceled.

RE: revenue base, what are you even on about? 95% of my income comes from the USA. That's where my customers are. Calgary does not need to be sole market that generates revenue; that's the beauty of a digital economy.

POD, the agency that I was at for 6 years, earns roughly 50% of its revenue from the USA. They are a tech/marketing startup that now employs 30+ Albertans, and they were able to quickly build and grow in part because of grants that were available to them.

Your comments re: developers feel nonsensical on the basis that developers are only one small part of what any tech company would need. Just in the digital marketing space where I spend most of my time, graphics designers, copywriters, account managers, UX/QA teams... and there are plenty of them in Calgary.

Very clearly we completely disagree on this subject. I do so on the basis of my personal experience as I live and work in tech.

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Margret Thatcher moved part of the UK economy to Financial services. That took 10 years with the development of Canary Wharf. How was Calgary going to be a tech centre overnight? The tech startup was never going to happen with grants. It was money thrown around for the feel good factor and to generate votes in Notleys favour in a few years. If there was going to be grants, it was better spent on the infrastructure on universities and schooling. Even then that would take a decade in the grand scheme of things.

Who said it was going to happen overnight? But, from my point of view, things were indeed starting to happen.

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If one lives in a household and the spouse grabbed the credit card and went on a crazy spending spree knowing they would need to be accountable. Then that was the NDP. Now they can sit back and blame the other spouse for having gruel for dinner and the cuts they are making for the household budget.
I dont think the UCP is perfect. But NDP was three moves ahead on this, and they were serving themselves.

lol

1) This analogy is not nearly as apt or clever as I think you thought it was, because...

2) The NDP didn't hide where the money went.

3) The NDP, along with lots of other people, are rightfully holding the UCP accountable. You can imagine how thrilled I was to learn that, because property taxes for O&G companies were changing, my property taxes on my farmland were likely going up. Bet your ass I am going to be critical of both that decision and the government that enacted it.

4) I have never voted NDP or UCP.

Regardless, the grants that the NDP enacted allowed numerous businesses to retain my services, which allowed me to hire a half-dozen Calgarians to fulfill said services. The UCP was wrong to remove them on the back of significantly lowering corporate taxes for companies that earn more than $500k in profit (which doesn't apply to most small businesses, remember), and people who believe that "diversification is a pipe dream" are both myopic and wrong.

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my property taxes have gone up, doctors are leaving the province, and he's made us a laughingstock internationally

Oh, and he also killed all the grants that were spawning a bunch of tech/digital startups. .

Property Taxes - last I checked, that is the city or county. Then you'll whine that the provincial government cut transfers. Do you understand that government money does not grow on trees?

Laughingstock? Yea, ok. If you mean BBC writing an article that nobody cares about or reads. CBC tweeting something does not in any way correlate to majority opinion.

Doctors leaving province -anecdotal, and zero proof whatsoever besides some doctors whining to the papers. Yawn.

Complaining about grants - Why do you think your taxes went up? To cover the costs of programs like that which were funded through deficit spending. You do know that loans aren't free and need to be paid back with interest, right? And if 4 years of the NDP money cannon didn't make growth, guess what? Time to pay the bill!

Thanks for the laugh though. You support government funded programs, and then *surprise pikachu face* are shocked that the government acquires its revenue to pay for those programs at your expense

Seriously? Can't wait for you to act like the UCP transfer cuts somehow are the issue, you do understand that government revenue is government revenue regardless of the level? Especially when it comes to governments giving other governments money, the cash comes out of your pocket. But it sure gives you something to whine about even though Notley did the same thing.

Did you forget this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...ticle25048010/

I sincerely doubt you bitched and moaned about this like you have about the UCP, which is working to undo the debacle of gov that drove investment out of Alberta.

Glad you are paying higher property taxes. You earned it. Also, can we get a #fwp for you?

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Property Taxes - last I checked, that is the city or county.

You should check harder. In Calgary about a third of your property tax bill goes to the province. About a quarter in Edmonton (cause their muni rate is higher).

~0.25% for residential and farmland, 0.35% for non-residential. They call it the Education Tax so that people don’t immediately correlate it as a provincial tax even though that’s who sets it.

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Property Taxes - last I checked, that is the city or county. Then you'll whine that the provincial government cut transfers. Do you understand that government money does not grow on trees?

Laughingstock? Yea, ok. If you mean BBC writing an article that nobody cares about or reads. CBC tweeting something does not in any way correlate to majority opinion.

Doctors leaving province -anecdotal, and zero proof whatsoever besides some doctors whining to the papers. Yawn.

Complaining about grants - Why do you think your taxes went up? To cover the costs of programs like that which were funded through deficit spending. You do know that loans aren't free and need to be paid back with interest, right? And if 4 years of the NDP money cannon didn't make growth, guess what? Time to pay the bill!

Thanks for the laugh though. You support government funded programs, and then *surprise pikachu face* are shocked that the government acquires its revenue to pay for those programs at your expense

Seriously? Can't wait for you to act like the UCP transfer cuts somehow are the issue, you do understand that government revenue is government revenue regardless of the level? Especially when it comes to governments giving other governments money, the cash comes out of your pocket. But it sure gives you something to whine about even though Notley did the same thing.

Did you forget this? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...ticle25048010/

I sincerely doubt you bitched and moaned about this like you have about the UCP, which is working to undo the debacle of gov that drove investment out of Alberta.

Glad you are paying higher property taxes. You earned it. Also, can we get a #fwp for you?

The property taxes are going up because the UCP has lowered property taxes for certain types of O&G companies/assets. The shortfall in revenue is forcing some counties to increase their taxes to accommodate. The rest of your whatever bullshit you vomited on to the screen being the irrelevant tripe it usually is, the above fact is pretty important context.

I'd have a very different point of view if the UCP wasn't almost completely incompetent in their handling of our provincial finances, but there's no point in trying to converse with a self-declared selifsh jackass such as yourself.

Given the tax breaks the UCP have handed large corporations and how much they've hitched us to a single resource that is of questionable future value, I'm surprised that anyone would view them positively. But you do you, mate. You love to superimpose your view of people's perspective on them, so you should know that I don't really put any weight into what you say; I was as critical of the NDP as I was the UCP, and I don't owe either of them allegiance.

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The property taxes are going up because the UCP has lowered property taxes for certain types of O&G companies/assets. The shortfall in revenue is forcing some counties to increase their taxes to accommodate. The rest of your whatever bullshit you vomited on to the screen being the irrelevant tripe it usually is, the above fact is pretty important context.

I'd have a very different point of view if the UCP wasn't almost completely incompetent in their handling of our provincial finances, but there's no point in trying to converse with a self-declared selifsh jackass such as yourself.

Given the tax breaks the UCP have handed large corporations and how much they've hitched us to a single resource that is of questionable future value, I'm surprised that anyone would view them positively. But you do you, mate. You love to superimpose your view of people's perspective on them, so you should know that I don't really put any weight into what you say; I was as critical of the NDP as I was the UCP, and I don't owe either of them allegiance.

You mean the artificially high taxes on O&G so they can keep property taxes extremely low?

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You mean the artificially high taxes on O&G so they can keep property taxes extremely low?

lol however you need to spin it mate. Either way, the UCP is taxing me quite a bit more.

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You should check harder. In Calgary about a third of your property tax bill goes to the province. About a quarter in Edmonton (cause their muni rate is higher).

~0.25% for residential and farmland, 0.35% for non-residential. They call it the Education Tax so that people don’t immediately correlate it as a provincial tax even though that’s who sets it.

I never said anything about the education tax. Just because you need someone to hold your hand and read the popup picture book explaining the difference doesn't mean the rest of us do. The city or county does not set the education tax, period, nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

And would you look at that, for 2020, the education specific portion has gone down. But there were massive increases under the NDP #thanksnotley

Not that I am surprised that a lefty doesn't understand taxation or money in general. It all just grows on trees to them, government spends it's money, that has no correlation to the taxation of its citizens /heavysarcasm

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The property taxes are going up because the UCP has lowered property taxes for certain types of O&G companies/assets. .

Yes, the oil and gas companies have been funding your low tax rates. Then you drove them out of this province. Once again, your shock is unsurprising, but hilarious. You wanted higher taxes/the rich to pay their fair share, here you go. Nice little life lesson for you.

I creeped here for years without an account. You were not critical of the NDP, unless this is one of those lefty word distortions where critical equals sucking them off.

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I never said anything about the education tax. Just because you need someone to hold your hand and read the popup picture book explaining the difference doesn't mean the rest of us do. The city or county does not set the education tax, period, nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

And would you look at that, for 2020, the education specific portion has gone down. But there were massive increases under the NDP #thanksnotley

Not that I am surprised that a lefty doesn't understand taxation or money in general. It all just grows on trees to them, government spends it's money, that has no correlation to the taxation of its citizens /heavysarcasm

So last you checked property taxes are city and county, but only if you’re not talking about the property tax that the province applies?

Or do you think the education tax is a tax on education and not a tax on property?