City just put out some renderings of the green line

[jwslam]

[dirtsniffer]

did they vote?

[BerserkerCatSplat]

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did they vote?

The Green Line stuff is under debate right now, with the vote to follow.

The same group linked earlier is doing a Twitter update of the proceedings. It obviously has their anti-Green-Line spin on it, but I haven't found anyone else covering it live. That said, I don't use Twitter so I may just not know where to look for other coverage.

https://twitter.com/CommonSenseYYC

[Mitsu3000gt]

Looks like it's proceeding in exactly the same way the city has made every other decision. I didn't know there is going to be some big ugly train bridge going over Prince's Island Park, that kind of blows.

[ExtraSlow]

Danielle Smith firing out the negativity. I love it.

[killramos]

New Rendering of the Green Line stations put out today. Being progressive makes me feel so warm and fuzzy.

[kertejud2]

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Looks like it's proceeding in exactly the same way the city has made every other decision. I didn't know there is going to be some big ugly train bridge going over Prince's Island Park, that kind of blows.

Get what you pay for.

Just like 7th Ave.

[Aleks]

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Don't the MAX buses also solve the cross travel between trains? I thought that was the whole concept, so be able to skip past downtown to the other lines if necessary.

Though waiting for a bus isn't as great as waiting for a train.

The Max Yellow ran mostly empty all day long before the Virus. People complained and said this would happen before the project was built, but were called NIMBYs... It is faster to take the C train to downtown than to get on the Max Yellow from anywhere South of Glenmore Reservoir.

[dirtsniffer]

I'm looking forward to seeing the user numbers for the max yellow. Im assuming each ride will have cost us at least $1000.

I live close to the terminus and it's definitely faster to take the 56 to anderson to get to the core. The amount of money spent at 90th was a complete waste

[ExtraSlow]

Voting on the revised alignment this week. Coukd kill project.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-5ed58492b69f/

[The_Rural_Juror]

Doesn't look like that tight of a vote to me. So much of the council still undecided, this late in the game, is disappointing.

[Tik-Tok]

Greenline greenlit, by everyone but Farquaad

[killramos]

Council never met a dollar they wouldn’t spend. Nothing surprising here.

Bet it gets canned after the next election.

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Council never met a dollar they would spend. Nothing surprising here.

Bet it gets canned after the next election.

I hope so

[Tik-Tok]

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Council never met a dollar they wouldn’t spend. Nothing surprising here.

Bet it gets canned after the next election.

It's one of those things that kind of is necessary if our downtown ever gets busy again... IF. If it doesn't, this isn't the thing that will break us, we'll already be broken from everything else. It'll just be one larger nail in the coffin.

I'd rather it be done now, than during the next "boom" when the price will be 10 fold. Catch up is always more expensive.

I just wish Lenard Nimoy was still around to christen it.

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It's one of those things that kind of is necessary if our downtown ever gets busy again... IF. If it doesn't, this isn't the thing that will break us, we'll already be broken from everything else. It'll just be one larger nail in the coffin.

I'd rather it be done now, than during the next "boom" when the price will be 10 fold. Catch up is always more expensive.

I just wish Lenard Nimoy was still around to christen it.

IT was always a garbage poorly thought through project. It was never necessary.

My guess is we are trying to break our own record for longest running infrastructure project in canadian history.

[msommers]

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IT was always a garbage poorly thought through project. It was never necessary.

My guess is we are trying to break our own record for longest running infrastructure project in canadian history.

Good luck beating the Tsuu Tina ring road portion. Decades.

[brucebanner]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...vote-1.5615066

Calgary council votes to build the $5.5B Green Line
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The Green Line, the largest project in Calgary's history, will officially be moving forward.

Council voted 14-1 in favour of the revised Stage 1 alignment for the $5.5-billion megaproject Tuesday. Coun. Jeromy Farkas was the sole vote against.

Construction could start as early as next spring.


Coun. Shane Keating, the chair of the Green Line committee, said while Calgary has faced recent hurdles the LRT will be a significant investment in the city's future.

"Pandemics do not last. Recessions do not last. Calgarians will return to their normal lives and as schools and businesses reopen, there will be an ever increasing need for transit," he said.


Coun. Shane Keating, chair of the city's Green Line committee, speaks to council in this file photo. (CBC)
The train line's future had been uncertain, with intense debate over its route and some opponents saying the project was too risky to be built.

"Today is not a big day for the city, today is the biggest day for the city," Mayor Naheed Nenshi said, adding that an investment in transit is an investment in social mobility, city building and the environment, among other benefits.

"It really is a victory for all Calgarians."

Stage 1 of the Green Line, from 16 Avenue North to Shepard in the southeast, will be constructed in three segments:



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Stage 1 will consist of 15 new stations on 20 kilometres of track. The entire 46-kilometre line, when complete, will consist of 28 stations from 160th Avenue N. to Seton.

Nenshi said the plan for the project includes a large room for contingency to ensure the project will remains on budget.

Coun. Jyoti Gondek said the commitment to constructing a bridge across the Bow River offers some certainty to north-central Calgary.

"We have a lot of hope in the north now and that's something that's been lacking," she said.


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Stage 1 is expected to serve 65,000 customers daily, and shave 20 to 25 minutes off transit users' commutes. It will also save an expected 30,000 tons of greenhouse gas emissions per year.

"High quality transit, like LRT, is a necessity for cities to grow, be attractive to entrepreneurs and a talented workforce, and to be competitive economic centres locally and internationally," said Michael Thompson, the city's general manager for the Green Line, in an emailed release.

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Earlier in Tuesday's debate, Farkas asked to delay the Green Line decision to allow Calgarians to vote in a plebiscite next year, saying a decision of this magnitude needs citizens' explicit approval.

That request failed in a 13-2 vote, with only Farkas and Magliocca voting in favour.

The city's investment will be matched by funds from the provincial and federal governments.

Nenshi said there have been promises from three different premiers and two prime ministers that the project will go forward.

"To me, we are really in a position where it would be very, very difficult for other orders of government to pull back on the promise they've made to Calgarians," he said.

The project is expected to create 20,000 jobs.

Tuesday's vote was a reconsideration of the alignment council approved in 2017, meaning it needed 10 councillors, instead of a majority of eight, to vote in favour for it to pass.

The first stage is anticipated to open as soon as 2026.

Take a look at the revised Green Line map below:


This map shows the approved alignment for the Green Line. (City of Calgary)

[pheoxs]

I think its a good thing tbh. I know people will bitch blah blah taxes but at the end of the day, long term, the train is going to be good for the city. If we push it out a few years the price tag is just going to balloon higher and higher. It's like the ring road, if we'd just done it 10 years prior it would've been significantly cheaper to do.

That being said ... our city needs to figure its shit out when it comes to budgeting. They over-spend on every single thing. I think the green line is more important than the library or the arena or all the little pet projects so I think it should go ahead. But fuck they need to stop any other big projects for a while and play catch up on our finances.

[sabad66]

So the revised plan was basically to scrap the underground tunnel and instead build a bridge over the Bow? I wonder what the cost difference for that was.