2021 BMW 4-Series

[killramos]

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It's basically Apple using a strategic black background to hide the notch on iPhone.

The fact that grill is seen on production floor, it's confirmed. They ain't backing down at this stage unless they reserve it for M line or something.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CA3KOh8p...=1oqxpdf1pf8r1

Is there another line of BMW worth buying?

[flipstah]

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Is there another line of BMW worth buying?

Rolls Royce

[cyra1ax]

This is a joke right?

[Buster]

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Is there another line of BMW worth buying?

People still buy BMWs? I had no idea.

[speedog]

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This is a joke right?

Almost looks like a pair of ass cheeks on someone that's been bent over.

[01RedDX]

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[heavyD]

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People still buy BMWs? I had no idea.

Yep they do. In similar numbers to MB actually. In fact I think BMW outsold MB in the US in 2019. I actually don't mind the front end as shown in that photo. The side profile looks a little plain though.

[bjstare]

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This is a joke right?

I'm ok with pretty much all the huge grill designs out there. This is the biggest failure for sure. It's hideous.

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People still buy BMWs? I had no idea.

That's kinda what I was thinking. With what Audi and MB are putting out these days, what's the point? M3 is probably the only car worth consideration, even though it's a pretty tough sell against a C63.

[killramos]

Well the next C63 will have 4 cylinders so what the fuck am I supposed to buy?

I guess a corvette.

[heavyD]

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Well the next C63 will have 4 cylinders so what the fuck am I supposed to buy?

I guess a corvette.

The V8's are the main reason to by AMG's so it's going to be interesting to see how 4 cylinder hybrids are received.

[bjstare]

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Well the next C63 will have 4 cylinders so what the fuck am I supposed to buy?

I guess a corvette.

RS6.

Although the Corvette would suit your inner 65 year old much better.

[beyond_ban]

After seeing these grills continuously leaked and rendered over the last year, they are actually growing on me ever so slightly. I still think BMW missed the mark with this marque, but they do not tilt me quite as much as the first time i laid eyes on the redesign. Grills aside, the car is quite bland and from the rear 3/4 view it is eerily similar to an Infiniti Q60.

[killramos]

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RS6.

Although the Corvette would suit your inner 65 year old much better.

Well the M5 is still good so I would get that over the RS6.

[shakalaka]

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Well the next C63 will have 4 cylinders so what the fuck am I supposed to buy?

I guess a corvette.

You should get a Lexus IS350. Haha.

Kidding aside, the new Corvette actually looks quite nice in the wild. Too bad Corvette's in general are just way too played out, otherwise I'd consider one as a replacement for the 'fun' car.

That white 4 series picture though, actually does not look THAT bad to me. In fact, I might even like it a little bit.

[killramos]

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You should get a Lexus IS350. Haha.

Kidding aside, the new Corvette actually looks quite nice in the wild. Too bad Corvette's in general are just way too played out, otherwise I'd consider one as a replacement for the 'fun' car.

I think the play is to get a cheap C6 or C7 Z06 rather than pay a premium for a C8. It’s cool but I just don’t care enough about the newness or a corvette to bother.

It’s just an engine with wheels.

[rage2]

With the draconian penalties set out by the EU, PHEV's are the only way to save V8's. Unfortunately, that drives up costs, and why the remaining V8 PHEV's are going to be premium models. AMG with the 73's, BMW with the X8 and next M5 PHEV, bigger dollar lower volume cars to keep the CO2 averages down. Not surprised to see the entry level performance cars ditch V8's. M3/4 did it already, C63 is definitely next.

So yea, I'd say American manufacturers are the last hope. They don't sell as much, if any in the EU, and NA isn't anywhere near EU's insanity in CO2 emissions requirements.

[Xtrema]

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So yea, I'd say American manufacturers are the last hope. They don't sell as much, if any in the EU, and NA isn't anywhere near EU's insanity in CO2 emissions requirements.

So Corvette it is.

Not sure if that's BMW's way of walking back.... Dukec has stated that this grill is 4 series only and potentially only spread to other even number of the lines. 4/6/8 etc.

3/5/7 will stay more conservative.

[bjstare]

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Well the M5 is still good so I would get that over the RS6.

Whaaaat no way. Out of the three, RS6 and E63S are way more desirable than M5 IMO. (moot point, since I can't afford any of them, but still)

[killramos]

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Whaaaat no way. Out of the three, RS6 and E63S are way more desirable than M5 IMO. (moot point, since I can't afford any of them, but still)

I like the M5, I took an M5 comp out for a rip last spring and thoroughly enjoyed it. Heavy AF though, that would take a while to get used to.

[max_boost]

.... do not like at all ....