Question: Is there anywhere in Calgary that you can get Ethanol - FFV??

[modded46]

Is it the same price as regular gas if you can?

Thanks.

[FiveFreshFish]

http://www.huskyenergy.ca/ourproducts/ethanol/

Don't know about the price though.

[modded46]

Unfortunately that's only the 10% Ethanol in all their fuels.. I'm talked about the big one.. 85 Ethanol E-85 or whatever it's called today..

[HHURICANE1]

Not available here as far as I know. It has very limited availability in the States though.

[95EagleAWD]

Why?

You get less power and less mileage.

Ethanol FTL.

[RickDaTuner]

are you talking E85?

I think that's considered a research fuel isnt it?

[Annoyingrob]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Why?

You get less power and less mileage.

Ethanol FTL.

Except it has a higher resistance to knocking (which is why husky's 10% ethanol is rated at 94), so you could increase your compression ratio, and gain that lost power and milage back. Then you can crank up your boost some more, and make more power It's also renewable.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Annoyingrob
Except it has a higher resistance to knocking (which is why husky's 10% ethanol is rated at 94), so you could increase your compression ratio, and gain that lost power and milage back. Then you can crank up your boost some more, and make more power It's also renewable.

Yes and no...

E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) has about 30% less energy than straight gasoline, which means on average it's going to use 30% more fuel to maintain the same power. Tests of fleet vehicles have shown that mileage decreased by 25%.

E85 is rated at 105 octane, so the power loss can be made up fairly easily in a turbocharged motor. In an identical turbocharged motor, E85 can make around 30% more power than gasoline when both fuels are tuned to knock limits. Of course, it's going to use a lot more fuel to do it so mileage will suffer heavily. Saab has a turbo 4 cylinder motor that makes 260hp on 91 octane gasoline, and 310hp on E85.

On average, E85 costs 10% less than regular unleaded, so with 25% lower fuel economy, you're going to be paying more to operate on E85 daily, so it's not worth going to E85 just yet.

[95EagleAWD]

Also, E85 can damage your fuel lines if your car is designed for it.

[Annoyingrob]

Yeah, E85 is quite corrosive to components. You need special lines and pump.

Thats interesting rage2. From people I've talked to in the US that conterted their cars, they said that fuel economy really wasn't all that different. I'll see if I can find a link. None the less, I doubt you'll start seeing E85 in Alberta anytime soon. We make our money off oil. I would still like to see it become more widespread though, just for performance reasons

[RickDaTuner]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803341

read that for a more indepth review of using E85