CO-OP gas?

[04blackMAX]

you guys are funny, unless your driving a supercar, i wouldnt worry about it, i dont think its gonna hurt your car!!

[Abom]

Originally posted by vsmSIR
you guys are funny, unless your driving a supercar, i wouldnt worry about it, i dont think its gonna hurt your car!!

[K271]

All this trouble for gas. You just want points for a car wash?? Just wash your car yourself, those car washing machines are dangerous, rocks and pebbles in those brushes. And you can't dry the car after, and the machine misses spots. Do it yourself and you know everything is clean, no scratches, and no water streaks when you dry.

[Abom]

Originally posted by K271
All this trouble for gas. You just want points for a car wash?? Just wash your car yourself, those car washing machines are dangerous, rocks and pebbles in those brushes. And you can't dry the car after, and the machine misses spots. Do it yourself and you know everything is clean, no scratches, and no water streaks when you dry.

They're touchless car washes at Co-op.

[Ekliptix]

correct.

The co op ones are way bette then the esso ones.

If I plane to wash it once a week, I want to save a few bucks

[Shaolin]

ok, just asked a few sources.. apparently Co-Op gets their gas from Shell..

[2000impreza]

i fill up at co-op pretty often. i've had no problems with their premium 91 octane gas. also fill up at esso, shell, petro, mohawk, husky...etc. the odd time i get a bad tank of gas... i just won't rev the piss out of the engine and stay off boost... no problems really.

[92 Teg-B18A]

Man, I wouldn't let any of those grease monkey's touch my car.
I pump my own gas at Petro Canada

[three.eighteen.]

Originally posted by Abom



Anything special done to his Porsche? I've had 3 cars so far (one requiring 91 octane or higher) and have never noticed a difference at all between different gas.

huh? even my slow ass bmw...i dropped to mid-grade once...im never doing that again...i need as many horses as i can get, i can even notice a difference between esso and mohawk/husky...i know its hard to believe on a car that is barely a performer...but gas quality is very important

[Abom]

Originally posted by three.eighteen.
huh? even my slow ass bmw...i dropped to mid-grade once...im never doing that again...i need as many horses as i can get, i can even notice a difference between esso and mohawk/husky...i know its hard to believe on a car that is barely a performer...but gas quality is very important

I wasn't referring to changing octane, I meant gas station brand. And yes, once in a while you get a batch of bad gas at one station or another, it happens

[Honda Attack]

Originally posted by Ben
Co-Op = ASS

Atleast someone knows what they are talking about..

[nickopolis]

My bro knows some ppl in the business co-op gets shitty gas thats the bottom line. Not as bad as places like cnetex and that but I don't think its worth the value plus rebat hehe

[Abom]

Originally posted by nickopolis
My bro knows some ppl in the business co-op gets shitty gas thats the bottom line. Not as bad as places like cnetex and that but I don't think its worth the value plus rebat hehe

Do let us know exactly what your "brother" knows. Co-op gas is the same like any other, even though I don't fill it up anymore since there's an Esso next to my house, I don't feel, nor can I tell a difference in either gas. Bad gas I've had from Petro, Esso, all the major brands, but this isn't about bad gas.


Either your brother is talking shit, or is mis-informed.

[^SkylinE^]

So were can i get the best quality gas then ????

[BigShow]

Originally posted by nickopolis
My bro knows some ppl in the business co-op gets shitty gas thats the bottom line. Not as bad as places like cnetex and that but I don't think its worth the value plus rebat hehe

ok i'm gonna take your knowledge into consideration next time i get gas..nickopolis's brother knows people in the business and co-op has shitty gas. on a daily driver I don't think there's any noticable difference.

[BigMass]

i'm still trying to figure out where in town i can gas up my Pagani Zonda

[rage2]

Originally posted by Abom
Anything special done to his Porsche? I've had 3 cars so far (one requiring 91 octane or higher) and have never noticed a difference at all between different gas.

Quite a bit... the fuel curve is mapped to 12.2:1 A/F ratio at 7psi all the way to 28psi (set any boost pressure and it'll be the same A/F ratio, however ethanol blends will "lean" out the readings a little bit). Timing is set about 7psi to 20 degrees total timing. There's also a knock sensor which retards timing when knock is determined (the octane determines at which psi it starts to knock). So, my car is a rolling octane tester.

Petro Canada has the worse gas (11psi), Shell and Esso are a bit better (12psi), Mohawk 92 is the best (13psi), and Mohawk 94 was just tested with excellent results (15psi). At about 10whp per psi of boost, it's well worth shopping around for the best gas.

On my SLK, the ECU is set to expect 93 octane fuel. Because it's an OBD2 car, I can read timing advance very easily using an OBDII scanner. Here are the results on similar weather days (except for 94, which was done today at 28C). The higher the number, the cooler the engine runs (lower EGTs), the more power it makes, and the longer your valves last . Results mimic the Porsche boost test. Runs were done in 3rd gear.

VP MS103 - 21-23 degrees
Mohawk + VPMS103 (~93.5) - 17-20 degrees
Mohawk 92 - 16-17 degrees
Esso 92 - 14-16 degrees (After government tests, it's been renamed to 91)
Shell 91 - 13-15 degrees
Petro Canada 91 - 11-13 degrees
Mohawk 94 - 19-22 degrees on a hot day!

If your car is stock, you probably won't see a difference in the different "premium" brands.

[rage2]

Back to the original question, I used to live near a co-op with touchless wash, and also gassed up there (full serve!) for the car wash discounts. Their gas was fine on the 944 at 12psi.

[Ben]

well that settles that, thanks rage2

[nickopolis]

Yes abom maybe my "brother" is misinformed. I was posting what i have been told how bout yah take a midol and take the post out of your ass... and no it wouldn't make a diff in a daily driver and i dind't say it would...

Are you and Bigshow pump jockies for your friendly neighbourhood co-op?