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    Default what 4 door high powered sedan?

    so now i'm looking for a 4 door high powered sedan. Looking to spend up to $30k.

    Factors:

    Price/performance (woudlnt mind giving up a bit in terms of performance if i can save 10k)

    Reliability (doesnt need to be a Lexus but shouldnt be a lemon with a reputation of breaking down)

    0-60 (5.5 ish seconds or lower would be a nice indication of the type of power/torque i'd be looking for)

    BMWs and G35s are obvious choices but, living in Calgary, i fall asleep just thinking of BMWs and G35s.

    Here are some cars i found for sale currently that seem to be at decent prices.

    300C SRT-8
    http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...1&pgno=1&srt=7

    CTS-V
    http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...1&pgno=1&srt=1

    Lincoln LS (The car was reviewed quite favorably from what i've read. And a good price at that)
    http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...2&pgno=2&srt=1

    Anyone have any opinions on those cars or in this segment? I know the G8 is coming out but i can't wait and i rather buy used over new anyways to save money.

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    used? if so, S4 or c32 AMG should be in the mix no?

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    Anything but the BMW

    Each car has there own issues and you should check out consumerreports.com before making any decision.
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    I always liked the look of the SE-R and its a good sleeper

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    I'd look at a Subaru Legacy GT.

    Quick, reliable, reasonable on gas and AWD!

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    Subaru STI?
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    Legacy spec b.

    http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...7&pgno=2&srt=4

    This guy must be a Beyond member - wants $40k when they are $33k USD new.

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    An LS is a full second away from where you'd like it to be performance wise, though the handling is really good with 50/50 weight distribution. A new Malibu, Saturn Aura or Pontiac G6 with the 3.6L V6, will whoop an LS all day long.

    Another good Otion will be the Pontiac G8 when it comes out.

    Personally i'd opt for a nice used SRT8, Maggie, Charger or 300. I'm biased though as I have been searching for the right 5.7 Hemi equipped LX car for awhile now.
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    the 300c Str-8's are awesomo

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    http://www.canadatrader.com/result/d...8&pgno=2&srt=1

    Save yourself a few grand and get a shit load more storage space.
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    a CTS Spec V. Never driven one but they look pretty nice on the outside IMO.

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    Originally posted by TYMSMNY
    a CTS Spec V. Never driven one but they look pretty nice on the outside IMO.
    Nissan / Cadillac partnership hey?

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    CTS-V/300C SRT-8 would be getting my attention if I were looking in that market
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    Originally posted by bobby_lu


    Nissan / Cadillac partnership hey?
    yup, wait till you see their GT-R version
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    My personal opinion on each:

    Lincoln LS: Nice car, good ride, but you're in the wrong ballpark for power. The LS only has ~300 HP, and as someone said, is a good second away from your target 0-60 time. That said, if I was looking for a reasonably priced comfortable luxury car with a bit of performance, the LS would be right up there on my list. Nicest interior of the three.

    Cadillac CTS-V: My favorite of the three you put forth. The Corvette-sourced LS6 has plenty of easily accessible aftermarket, and has proven to be a solid performer. Handling is pretty good, and is a sharp looker without being over the top. Only one available with a manual transmission.

    Chrysler 300C SRT-8: The most powerful, and funnily enough, my least favorite. The power is pretty savage and impresses in a straight line, but put a corner in front of it and things get pretty mediocre. I've driven them numerous times, and they just don't seem to have the special something to really make driving it fun. And a stock 425 HP and all you give us is a 5 speed automatic? Bitch please.


    Other suggestions:

    Audi S4: Very nice cars, the handling is great thanks to the Quattro AWD (though it does tend to understeer at the limits, being FWD bias). Great interior, available manual transmission. The TT motor is easily coaxed into making more power (hooray turbochargers!), and the 4.2L V8 versions have excellent grunt throughout the rev band.

    Mercedes C-Class AMG: Good power, very nice interior appointments, classy appearance... but it still handles like a Mercedes. Not sure if these were available with a good ol' fashioned manual.


    And now the part everyone knew was coming....

    BMW M5 E39: Bite your tongues until the end, I'm going to be harshly critical of my own car here. I don't see many of these around, and I don't mind giving a neutral review on it, and with prices coming down, now wouldn't be a bad time to start considering one.

    The good: It's got great power, makes a fantastic noise, has a nicely appointed interior, handles very nicely when you've got the Sport mode turned on, rides very comfortably and relaxed with you don't, the Active Seats are great for long trips, great throttle response, pretty decent reliability, very safe (front/rear head & side airbags, and front airbags) and it doesn't jump out and say "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" like the current generation M-series. Very 'under the radar', which is what made it a more attractive choice for me.

    ... However: The clutch is sourced from the 282 HP 540i and is considered an achilles heel, so expect to be replacing it with a better unit if you aren't very nice to your clutches, maintenance isn't cheap, the fuel economy rivals most half-ton trucks (my current HWY/CITY average is 17.1 MPG), the steering is recirculating-ball like the 540i so the feedback isn't as precise as most would like, mine has a strange rattle in the rear interior deck that can only be corrected by tearing the bloody thing apart, there's no center console space beyond a 3"x3"x3" cubbyhole for an oddly square-shaped pack of gum, the German-engineered cupholders are useless, the 6-disc magazine is in the trunk, the navigation system can be finicky (and if you've got the CD-based Nav, the display is fairly primitive), the display for the OBC in the dash have been known to have dead pixels from time to time, the factory audio systems (save for the M-Audio) are rubbish, even the M-Audio isn't GREAT, the engine will normally use up about a quart of oil between services, and lastly, buying one will cause all the sheep on Beyond to regard you as a douche, even if you're not.

    Having said all those negatives, it's rather easy to look past those things once you're in it. I will say that it is one of the most well balanced cars I've ever driven. I can take it on a road-trip in a heart-beat, it feels very confident at incredibly illegal speeds on the highway, and it's very easy to drive around town. Put your foot down, and you feel like you're driving an M3, but without the popped collar or the shaved head (Sorry rage. ). Overall, it's a very relaxing car to drive, and in my opinion, while they're not for everyone, you're cheating yourself if you don't at least take a test drive in one.
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    Originally posted by bobby_lu


    Nissan / Cadillac partnership hey?
    LOL... CTS-V. It's all the same thing.

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    The Lincoln LSE is REALLY nice. Also very quick on its feet and handles fairly well. I miss that car.

    Edit: It also has air conditioned seats.

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    +1 for Legacy
    When lazy let idle.

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    Legacy? He said he wanted power...

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