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    HARARE, Zimbabwe (CNN) -- As the hours ticked down toward the opening of Friday's balloting, Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe showed no indication that he would give in to demands to postpone the runoff election despite his challenger's dropping out.

    Morgan Tsvangirai of the Movement for Democratic Change party dropped out of the race earlier this week, citing pre-election violence that he says has targeted opposition supporters.

    But the government has said it is too late to take his name off the ballot.

    A Mugabe aide told CNN that he expected the longtime leader to win re-election.

    "When the process is done tomorrow, as a country, we (will) have a win that I think should include all the other players," said Bright Matonga, a spokesman for Mugabe's ruling ZANU-PF party. Watch preparations for Friday's election »

    Matonga was hinting that Mugabe would be willing to share power with Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change party.

    "This is the reason why my president he says, 'Look, Zimbabwe is too big a cake to eat for ZANU-PF, bring everyone in.

    "As a country ... we can mend bridges."
    A day before the scheduled runoff vote, Zimbabwe's opposition party warned of growing political genocide at the hands of government supporters, urging the world to intervene immediately before the situation became worse.

    The MDC also accused Mugabe's ruling party ZANU-PF of planning to deploy fake polling agents on Friday to make it seem like Tsvangirai is taking part, despite his withdrawal from the race.

    A government spokesman said the MDC was making "wild allegations."

    The MDC said a build-up to genocide was evidenced by the arming of militia members and youth supporters of ZANU-PF, Mugabe's threats of war if Tsvangirai were to win the vote, and threats against those who vote for the MDC leader.

    It said Mugabe's government had targeted the opposition and its supporters ever since the March 29 election, leading to genocide. MDC has also warned that Zimbabweans may be forced to vote for Mugabe on Friday, under the threat of violence. See a timeline of Zimbabwe's recent political turmoil »

    Kerry Kay, the MDC's secretary for welfare, appealed to regional leaders "and indeed the world to take a stand now -- not in a week's time, now -- if we are to avoid the final stages of genocide." See pictures of the violence »

    Meanwhile, a day before the runoff vote, MDC secretary-general Tendai Biti went free on bail after more than two weeks behind bars.

    Biti had been jailed since June 12 on charges including treason, which can carry the death penalty. African and international leaders had criticized his arrest as a ploy by Mugabe to intimidate the opposition before the runoff.

    The judge called the state's case against Biti weak and told him to appear back in court July 7, Biti's lawyer said.

    Shortly after his release, Biti said he plans to complete the task his movement has started -- democratizing his country. Watch Biti walk to freedom and his reference to Nelson Mandela »

    "Our people are suffering. Each second that was spent inside those prison cells strengthened me more and made me realize that we have to finish the business that we started, and the business of democratizing our country and making sure that our people have jobs and food," Biti said.

    The MDC has said at least 86 of its supporters have been killed, 10,000 wounded and 200,000 displaced. ZANU-PF has accused MDC of exaggerating the situation, and has blamed its supporters for inciting violence.

    Mugabe spokesman George Charamba has also chided news organizations for not reporting purported deaths of war veterans loyal to Mugabe, who he said had been "hacked to death" by MDC supporters.

    Video shot recently at a hospital in Zimbabwe's capital city showed MDC supporters with injuries allegedly inflected by armed gangs that support Mugabe.

    A gaping wound several inches long cut through a young woman's forehead, while discolored skin circled a man's nose as doctors try to save it.

    Another man's lower back was a jigsaw patch of burned flesh. Deep purple bruises marked an "X" down his spine.

    Harare's former mayor said the people shown in the video are innocent victims of someone "they thought was a hero." He did not elaborate, but clearly he was referring to Mugabe.

    Eyewitnesses have said iron bars and sticks have been used as weapons for beatings and victims are forced to chant and recite slogans supporting ZANU-PF, according to a report released this week by Human Rights Watch.

    One witness said that "if one failed to properly (recite) a slogan, then the beating would begin."

    Citing "credible contacts" in Zimbabwe, Human Rights Watch researcher Tiseke Kasambala said people were being threatened with violence if they do not vote for Mugabe on Friday.

    "They are being told to vote for Robert Mugabe tomorrow, and if they don't vote for Robert Mugabe, that there are more beatings and more torture to follow," she said.

    Human Rights Watch has called on the 53-nation African Union (AU) to deploy monitors throughout Zimbabwe to report on human rights abuses and allow for democratic reform.

    Kasambala praised South Africa, Kenya, Angola and Tanzania for putting pressure on Zimbabwe but said "more needs to be done." Watch Zimbabweans in South Africa discuss their country's political situation »

    "Robert Mugabe should step down and agree to a transitional authority with the view of holding later elections, proper elections, under a conducive environment," she said. "And if he does not do so, they should threaten him with suspension from the AU.


    In its report, Human Rights Watch said it believes Mugabe will hold on to power at all costs. He stated in a campaign rally that his ruling ZANU-PF party has "shed a lot of blood for this country," and that they would not give it up "for a mere X on a ballot."

    "How can a ball-point pen fight with a gun?" Mugabe said
    tl;dr Mugabe is a dumb piece of shit who couldn't be bothered to properly fix the first election, so once he lost, imprisoned the opposition party and began terrorising the opposition voters, and has come right out and said he won't step down and will indeed fight.

    This, coupled with his decimation of the country through economic means and long history of slaughtering opponents, puts Mugabe in contention for worst person alive today.

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    Like we needed to be reminded of this.

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    It's so frustrating to see a country that has so much to offer, brought down by this guy. I am a firm believer that if the world stopped giving (Africa as a whole) money, and made the entire continent accountable; this type of situation would not be happening. Give them a hand, not a hand out. What shocks me especially with Mugabe is that no one has actually killed him yet. Many attempts, but no one with the balls to actually do it.

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    He is indeed a sick, backwards sack of trash. MF's who lose and then use force to 'illegally' maintain power... pathetic. Someone cool in the U.S military should just drop a bomb on his head (like Tony Stark's friend pulling a Syriana), it's just one bomb, no one will miss it, and BONUS it's for a good cause... then maybe the winning party can get on with it's job.

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    Originally posted by dannie
    It's so frustrating to see a country that has so much to offer, brought down by this guy. I am a firm believer that if the world stopped giving (Africa as a whole) money, and made the entire continent accountable; this type of situation would not be happening. Give them a hand, not a hand out. What shocks me especially with Mugabe is that no one has actually killed him yet. Many attempts, but no one with the balls to actually do it.
    I think the main reason why the world is so reluctant to do that is the millions and millions of deaths it would cause, both from starvation and the inevitable slaughters.

    It's a catch 22. Give aid and it goes to the wrong people who distribute it poorly and use it to hold the countries hostage. Take away the aid and it'll take decades before the countries are sustainable enough to both feed the people and to stop the anarchy. Death by a thousand paper cuts or death by nuclear bomb....

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    Originally posted by dannie
    It's so frustrating to see a country that has so much to offer, brought down by this guy. I am a firm believer that if the world stopped giving (Africa as a whole) money, and made the entire continent accountable; this type of situation would not be happening. Give them a hand, not a hand out. What shocks me especially with Mugabe is that no one has actually killed him yet. Many attempts, but no one with the balls to actually do it.
    Who do you make accountable though? The poor who only have sticks and rocks to defend themselves with, or the rich warlords who have all the power, guns and money? It isn't as easy as all that because things are already messed up so bad. You have an absolutely miniscule percentage of people who have control over everyone by force over so much of the continent. People who are starving and have no future to look forward to are not always the best candidates to overthrow a corupt, military dictatorship (or the like)... At least not without the help of just another leader who is exactly the same as the guy being overthrown.

    I don't know what the answer is, but simply ignoring the everyday people and leaving them to get run over by the powers that be is NOT the answer IMHO...

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    I agree that the situation sucks, but I do feel that they haven't had a chance to make it work on their own.

    For example: In 1998, Western countries agreed to write off $50 BILLION of debt. That is almost as much money that the World Bank had lent to Africa in 50 Years. In June 2005, the same thing happened. Western countries aggreed to cancel ANOTHER $40 BILLION of debt. By allowing these countries to keep wasting money so blatantly and not acutally helping their people, we are not doing our job as citizens of the world.

    Even though it would take a while to weed out all the corrupt leaders, it would be worth it. If Morgan Tsvangirai had held out in the election, it would be a different story. But instead he fled; showing the mass intimidation that Mugabe has over people. I have to wonder if this was just a "show" to prove the widespread amount of intimidation.

    While I am not saying that cutting the continent off as a whole is the best option, I think that the financial aid needs to be kept a minimum. I also think that if the countries had legitimate check and balance systems in place, it would cut down on the corruption. Someone though, needs to take that step. As long as the rich are getting richer, the corrupt will become more corrupt.

    Just my thoughts

    Oh... and don't get me started on the waste that the UN is. Such a pointless organization.

    Ok... rant over

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    gotta do what they did in kenya....
    get rid of him...

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    Someone has their hand in the cookie jar in those countries then. Nothing like corrupt countires and leaders to continue the genocide. They should be charged like the president of Sudan was.

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    fucking disgusting move by them..

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    And that's why we need to remove veto powers.
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    arms embargo against Zimbabwe
    I bet that's why.

    Originally posted by Eleanor
    And that's why we need to remove veto powers.
    Will never happen. If you switched to population or economy based voting system, China and India will own the rest of the world.
    Last edited by Xtrema; 07-14-2008 at 03:15 PM.

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    Will never happen. If you switched to population or economy based voting system, China and India will own the rest of the world.


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    He's still doing a great job I see....link
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    2.2 million percent inflation....if people in that country even bothered to use the official money anymore that'd be a major pain in the ass.

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    Insane inflation rates under Mugabe's rule aren't anything new either. It really surprises me how this man is still alive. I can't remember exactly how the UN defines genocide but if by their definition it is not happening now, it's noly a matter of time before it is. Oh but when something monsterous actually happens is when they will try to "help." Thanks a bunch!
    Last edited by msommers; 07-16-2008 at 09:38 AM.
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    It's not really surprising he's still alive, he pays the heavily armed bodyguards and soldiers in either American (or another stable currency) or in material goods.

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