Alberta: COMPLETE BAN ON RHD STARTING JAN 1st 2009!!! (Unsubstantiated information)

[stinky_1]

News has come across our members over at IVOAC.CA that there is going to be a TOTAL ban on RHD vehicles starting Jan 1st 2009. Please note we are NOT talking about changing the law to 25 years, or removing it all together. I am talking about every single RHD car ALREADY HERE not being able to get registration for the car past Jan 1st 2009!!! This affects ANYONE who has a car now, plans to buy one, or just enjoys seeing them around.

Please watch the thread found here

http://www.ivoac.ca/pn/index.php?nam...&p=20004#20004


If you have ANY information that you think could be usefull to figure out how legit this claim is, or you want to know what you can do to stop this please post on there, or PM me! We need to act now or lose our rides forever!

[Canmorite]

It's a rumor, need to see an official press release...

[Jlude]

Not even gonna pay attention until it's official

[projekz]

Probably not gonna happen! I'd like to see the Transport Canada take off all the existing shit boxes off the road before they start fucking around with cars that pass out of province inspections all day long! There is so many CDM cars that a dangerous on the road. (by shit boxes I mean 88 Ford Escort with bald tires and no front brakes)

[mark4091]

Oh noes.



Even if I don't care about it, it sounds like BS from a mile away.

[Shogged]

what about people who have cars already? they can't just expect people to get rid of their cars and shell out the cash for a new one.

[Ymerej47]

I wonder if all those RHD cars would be sent to pick a part or something and then people could buy the cars as a whole and convert them back to RHD just to piss people off because technically its still a canadian car!!

[sr20s14zenki]

its most likely a rumor, it stinks of shit. I personally dont drive a RHD but i think as another poster said, until they force the removal of some of the pieces of shit on our roads right now, people should have the right to choose the car they want to drive. I dont understand how they can use the premise that RHD is unsafe...the only thing thats unsafe is passing on a hiway and left hand turns, and you can easily avoid doing one of those. All the rhd that come here are forced to pass a pretty picky OOP inspection, which half the pieces of shit already here dont even have to do.

Its funny tho, i half believe it, our government is always looking for sneaky new ways to fuck us, and this would be just another example. Dont buy a cheap decent car from japan, we want you to buy a shiny new one and support our country.

[stinky_1]

At this point we are still trying to confirm or deny this. ALL we have so far is that there have been people that went to renew their registration for another year that have been denied because it would give them registration PAST the Jan 1st deadline. They ended up with temperary registration that is expired JANUARY 1st 2009.

It smells like a load of crap to me too. But I would NOT expect TC to come and say "hey guys, we are going to make all yalls cars illegal starting on xxx date".

Keep in mind this is being pushed as an ALBERTA only rule. It is being put forth by our BUddy Ken RObinson. Who has already been pulling registration on skylines and other RHD cars and ordering another OOP be done. And putting salvage titles on US imports.

I would NOT put it past him to pull something like this, legal or not.......

You have your heads up. News will be posted on the link above as we get more info. For now, that is what we have.

[dj_rice]

Meh

[Destinova403]

Originally posted by dj_rice
Meh

[Jay911]

Hm, so all of the City of Calgary's garbage & recycling trucks will become illegal on 1/1/09 too, since they're dual-drive?

Methinks someone got upset at a rustbucket or the tool driving it and started a rumor. It'd be announced all over the place by now if it were real. Especially considering there's more to RHD than kids in worn-out Skylines and Silvias. I see more and more Toyota Hilux and 4Runner RHD machines between here and Vancouver all the time.

Not to mention the province banning RHD vehicles would be unenforceable, considering it's the federal government and Transport Canada who would have the authority to do that.

Alberta "banning" RHD is about as likely as Alberta "banning" Saskatchewanites. (don't get any ideas either)

[avow]

there is no way they are going to force the thousands of rhds that are on the road right now in alberta off the road. and further more, like it was said above, wouldnt something like this have to be put in place by transport canada and not provincial government?

[badatusrnames]

From what I understand, what vehicles are and are not allowed on the road is decided at a Federal level, not a provincial one. Although I'm assuming that each province sets their own standards for their out of province inspections, so perhaps Alberta could simply find a loophole by stating that all RHD vehicles cannot pass provincial inspection by their very nature and therefore are unable to be registered?

Regardless, I would find it hard to believe that such a change would be made without any sort of study, public consultation and forewarning. Government must operate with certain a certain level on accountability when making policy. So when they act on something like this they have to perform due diligence by performing and presenting research to prove it is the proper decision to make, they must weigh the opinion of the public on the matter through consultation and they must give reasonable notice in order to give all affected parties reasonable time to prepare. Think about the smoking ban.

Six months would not be reasonable. And I find it difficult that the Alberta Government would act so rashly and unilaterally just because of a "perception" that the vehicles are unsafe without any sort of study or measurable facts to back this assumption. Some guy bitching that Skylines are as common as Sunfires doesn't cut it. I would also find it even harder to believe that even if they do prevent further vehicles from being brought into Alberta and registered, that existing ones would not be grandfathered. Those vehicles represent a significant amount of money that would be lost by those that have purchased RHD vehicles.

What worries me though is that given the demographic that drives these cars, that if a ban is proposed, stakeholders won't have the resources, wherewithal, or expertise to properly lobby against it. If, for example they attempted to ban rich old men from importing Cuban cigars, the demographic opposing such a bad would easily be able mount an effort lobbying against it. High Schoolers and early 20's kids. Not so much.

[Joe-G]

Even if they did ban RHD cars, they would have to allow the RHD cars already here or they would most likely have to compensate for our losses. Look at the EVO's that made it in Canada and were later deemed unworthy due to bumper laws, the handful of owners were still allowed to keep them

[BlackFyre]

I call extreme bull-shit, I'm sorry but there is no way they could get enough support for this. They can piss and moan all they want about how unsafe RHD is, but the truth is, there are MUCH less safe vehicles allowed on the road daily. RHD vehicles had to at least pass an OOP, many vehicles on the road are so old and have been insured for long enough that no one knows how royally fucked they are. Also, if this were true, bikes would have been outlawed long ago, there are MANY more fatalities and accidents involving bikes than RHD vehicles anyways, It's just common sense.

[Sorath]

not gonna happen, alberta has more stuff to worry about than rhd cars rofl. if anything like that did happen, bc or ontario would be the first

[tabouli]

Good thing I plan my life around the accuracy of the beyond grapevine
Time to invest and buy as many RHD cars as I can afford

[tomt64]

Stinky, why do you keep linking us to rumours? This one stinks

Originally posted by stinky_1
Ill send off some emails when I get home. first on my list is going to be Ken's boss!

As I see it, there is NO WAY they can get someting like this to fly. If they do I will get my red neck freinds to pay a visit to those parties involved.

It may be worth while to start digging up info on this Ken robinson guy as well. Eg: His facebook profile, his government email, his home address, whatever. If he wants to make this personal then lets make it personal!

You really would not be helping the situation if this was not a b/s rumour by going to threaten someone who is going to "pass" these laws.

If any real news that is worth reading comes up, it will be on beyond mate.
Tbh it seems like all you are trying to get more members...

[Inzane]

Forget RHD for a sec...

If the politicians continue to push the recent environmental BS to its logical conclusion, we might ALL potentially lose our ability to keep our cars on the road.