Newbie to cars wanting to make a fast civic on a budget

**Pan0phobik** · 08-08-2002, 09:11 PM

Hey all... i'm 17 years old and looking to get a new car soon. I was leaning toward a civic and i was wondering what kind've mods i should put on it (legal mods). Any help would be appreciated.

**Ekliptix** · 08-08-2002, 09:28 PM

First you have to roll it to the top of a big hill, then.......

actually, civics are really fun to drive, but most honda's that are lacking dohc + vtec are not that fast to start with. Any honda can become fast with lots's of money spend on turbo/super charger, but suspension/tire upgrades will probably help you be faster on a road coarse. a Cold air intake is probably the cheapest way of getting power for not too much money.

**Pan0phobik** · 08-08-2002, 09:31 PM

what's dohc + vtec?

**Ekliptix** · 08-08-2002, 09:34 PM

dual over head cam + Variable Timing and Lift Electronic Control System. Here's a description: http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Technical/VTEC.htm

**Pan0phobik** · 08-08-2002, 09:42 PM

I take it that the civics that come with dohc/vtec are very expensive? I can afford a car that costs up to 14 or 15 grand. What car would you reccommend i look for? It's not like i JUST want a civic.. any suggestions are appreciated

**redline** · 08-08-2002, 09:46 PM

what is your budget for a car and mods?

**Pan0phobik** · 08-08-2002, 09:49 PM

well, like i said, max i can spend on a car is like 13-14k... I Deliver pizzas for a living so in a good 2 weeks i end up with like $200. so i guess every few weeks i can save up for a part or somethin.

**Ekliptix** · 08-08-2002, 09:51 PM

14-15g i think he said. are used SiR's that cheap? He could get a used GSR.

oooooorrr, any old civic hatch and do a b-series vtec swap.

**sexualbanana** · 08-08-2002, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Pan0phobik
... I Deliver pizzas for a living so in a good 2 weeks i end up with like $200. so i guess every few weeks i can save up for a part or somethin.

ur gonna need more than that to make civics fast. . . maybe that's just my civic

**Ferio_vti** · 08-08-2002, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by Ekliptix
14-15g i think he said. are used SiR's that cheap? He could get a used GSR.

oooooorrr, any old civic hatch and do a b-series vtec swap.

Hehehe, I know a 'cheap' GSR... See my post:
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2219

Not so sure about SiR, I've seen them still going for around 23-24000.

I'd suggest a used Si. Sohc, but at least you got Vtec. Or GS/LS Tegs, DOHC but no Vtec. So I guess its one or the other...

lammer · 08-08-2002, 10:18 PM

well it looks like hes from St.charles, Il..i take it as Illinios?
but whatever if he has 14-15grand its probably in US. so im thinking he could pick up an SiR or something along those lines...

**Ferio_vti** · 08-08-2002, 10:27 PM

Oh, nevermind. You can't get SiR in the USA....
14-15G's US. Go buy yourself a GSR or Si.

Thanks Lammer

**Pan0phobik** · 08-08-2002, 10:37 PM

GSR, Si, SiR,... i need more details than that.. i'm a newbie

lammer · 08-08-2002, 11:15 PM

GSR= top of the line lets just say for the Acura Integra if im correct
im not sur eon how much HP but i know its has the highest number
and SiR only comes in Canada as Ferio mentioned.
in the states they call it Si.
Si would be the top of the line model for the Honda Civic..power features i presume and highest number of HP

**jaylo** · 08-08-2002, 11:25 PM

1992-1993 Acura Integra GSR 160hp DOHC VTEC B17A engine
1994-up Acura Integra GSR 170hp DOHC VTEC B18C1 engine
99-00 Honda Civic SiR 160hp DOHC VTEC B16A (same engine as 94-97 delsol VTEC)
Honda Civic Si 127hp SOHC VTEC D16Z6 engine

check out vtec.net or other honda related websites

**Pan0phobik** · 08-09-2002, 12:25 AM

Are Integra GSR's generally expensive??? like decent ones

**buh_buh** · 08-09-2002, 01:07 AM

But also that means he's got $13k american to spend.
That's about $20k canadian.
For that price range, you could easily get a 4th gen Prelude SRV, or Civic Si (SiR in Canada), or a GSR.
But if I had that much money to spend, I would automatically rule out the Civic (no offense to Civic owners). I think the GSR or Prelude would be a very good choice in that price range. Do some research, read up on all cars, and see what appeals to you most.

**Dope Dealer** · 08-09-2002, 01:12 AM

You have a number of options with about 14k USD (21,500 CDN).

1993-1995 Mazda RX-7 baybee!

**DTM** · 08-09-2002, 01:16 AM

Totally agree (no offensive to Civic) but they are slow compare to other Honda model. get a prelude si please.

**civic_rida** · 08-09-2002, 01:34 AM

i like my civic sir

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