Science Minister wont say if he believes in evolution

**kertejud2** · 03-17-2009, 01:59 PM

Canada's science minister, the man at the centre of the controversy over federal funding cuts to researchers, won't say if he believes in evolution.

“I'm not going to answer that question. I am a Christian, and I don't think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate,” Gary Goodyear, the federal Minister of State for Science and Technology, said in an interview with The Globe and Mail.

A funding crunch, exacerbated by cuts in the January budget, has left many senior researchers across the county scrambling to find the money to continue their experiments.

Some have expressed concern that Mr. Goodyear, a chiropractor from Cambridge, Ont., is suspicious of science, perhaps because he is a creationist.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

So while Obama appoints an actual scientist to the same position, we're the ones with a guy who thinks a question about a fundamental aspect of science is an attack on his religion?!

So he's not a scientist, he's hardly a real fucking doctor, and he gets this position? What the fuck? Now while him resigning and having somebody actually qualified to run the position is what should happen, I can't imagine it will. He's likely qualified for many cabinet spots, ones where his religious bias wouldn't get in the way, but why the hell would we put a damn creationist as Minister of Science and Technology?

**ninefourfour** · 03-17-2009, 02:02 PM

**hash** · 03-17-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by kertejud2
but why the hell would we put a damn creationist as Minister of Science and Technology?

Looking at your post, he's likely more intelligent than you are.

**Eleanor** · 03-17-2009, 02:03 PM

Only in America

**kertejud2** · 03-17-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by hash

Looking at your post, he's likely more intelligent than you are.

What can I say, I'm just the way God made me.

**R154** · 03-17-2009, 02:14 PM

If there should be a man to govern scientific progress, I would think he should be educated in the fundamental 3, and should be fairly transparent with his views, considering the greatly effect the decisions he makes.

**TKRIS** · 03-17-2009, 02:18 PM

He should be fired.

EDIT: A bit of reading on more on what actually happens indicates I should change my opinion to "He should probably be fired".

**DayGlow** · 03-17-2009, 05:13 PM

How does one's belief in origin effect their decision on disease research?

**kertejud2** · 03-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by DayGlow
How does one's belief in origin effect their decision on disease research?

I'd like to know how someone who isn't willing to make a stance on evolution and play the religion card would like to explain drug resistant bacteria.

**mazdavirgin** · 03-17-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by DayGlow
How does one's belief in origin effect their decision on disease research?

Am I the only one more outraged that we have a Chiropractor being the minister of Science and Technology :\ Chiropractors are a form of quackery. Never mind his views on evolution a bloody Chiropractor?!

**eljefe** · 03-17-2009, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by kertejud2

I'd like to know how someone who isn't willing to make a stance on evolution and play the religion card would like to explain drug resistant bacteria.

In a March 2009 interview, the Globe and Mail asked Goodyear if he believed in evolution. He responded, "I am a Christian, and I don't think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate." While some scientists and educators expressed shock at this, others defended the minister, citing statistics that show a majority of Canadians believe God played a role in creation. Later that day, however, Goodyear admitted to believing in evolution

Rest easy- he is a believer in evolution

edit for link- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../politics/home

**berbatov** · 03-17-2009, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by kertejud2
What can I say, I'm just the way God made me.

Originally posted by kertejud2
I'd like to know how someone who isn't willing to make a stance on evolution and play the religion card would like to explain drug resistant bacteria.

Why would someone who believes in creationism waste time explaining it to you ? You do not provide anything in return.

**BlueGoblin** · 03-17-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by mazdavirgin

Am I the only one more outraged that we have a Chiropractor being the minister of Science and Technology :\ Chiropractors are a form of quackery. Never mind his views on evolution a bloody Chiropractor?!

Trust me, you are not the only one here thinking the same thing.

**kertejud2** · 03-17-2009, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by berbatov

Why would someone who believes in creationism waste time explaining it to you ? You do not provide anything in return.

What would I provide? A gift? Or are you suggesting I explain to the Minister of Science how science works in order to get his viewpoint?

**method** · 03-17-2009, 06:14 PM

If you watched CTV just now, he said he believes in evolution, but wouldn't answer the question at the time because he didn't think it was relevant.

Danced around it for quite a while, though.

Total BS lol

**Thomas Gabriel** · 03-17-2009, 06:17 PM

What if God created life, and within life was the inherent trait of evolution?

**kertejud2** · 03-17-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by method
If you watched CTV just now, he said he believes in evolution, but wouldn't answer the question at the time because he didn't think it was relevant.

Danced around it for quite a while, though.

Total BS lol

So we're either stuck with a Science and Tech minister who is so afraid at upsetting his God-fearing constituents he's willing to pass of the acknowledgement of evolution as irrelevant, or he is actually that clueless.

Obviously its the former, but it still doesn't give me much confidence in the man. Now he's managed to piss off people on both sides.

Originally posted by Thomas Gabriel
What if God created life, and within life was the inherent trait of evolution?

Evolution still exists then. God and evolution are not exclusive, religious belief in creation and evolution seem to be, judging by the sidestepping of the question.

**BlueGoblin** · 03-17-2009, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Thomas Gabriel
What if God created life, and within life was the inherent trait of evolution?

If that's what you believe then you are probably a Deist. It's not an uncommon notion of belief.

**TKRIS** · 03-17-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by mazdavirgin

Am I the only one more outraged that we have a Chiropractor being the minister of Science and Technology :\ Chiropractors are a form of quackery. Never mind his views on evolution a bloody Chiropractor?!

Did not know this.
I'll go back to my initial position. He should be fired.

**berbatov** · 03-17-2009, 07:32 PM

He is not a Deist by what was said. Not a modern nor a classic one.

Why would he be fired ? L:ook at the most important position in Canada - Governor General - she was a tv anchor - do I recall correctly ?

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