Batons legal?

[NRGie]

Are telescopic batons legal in Canada, or to be more exact here in Alberta?

I heard you can buy them from the flea market and some stores in China town but i wanted to order one from the states and was wondering if ill get hassled during shipping (customs)?

Thanks

[D_2K]

i believe they are legal..I got an automatic expandable baton off of Amazon

[Mibz]

They were 7 years ago, I don't think anything's changed.

[NRGie]

Yeah i was looking online and saw that on amazon too but not sure how they look or feel like?

Im trying to get one as a gift for my buddy, but don't want a really shitty one

[gatorade]

they are legal to possess, but not legal to conceal or use

[dexlargo]

It's a prohibited weapon under the Criminal Code, S.91(2):

Unauthorized possession of prohibited weapon or restricted weapon

91(2) Subject to subsection (4), every person commits an offence who possesses a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, other than a replica firearm, or any prohibited ammunition, without being the holder of a licence under which the person may possess it.

Part 3 of the schedule to the regulations define prohibited weapons, inluding the following:

13. The device commonly known as a “Kiyoga Baton” or “Steel Cobra” and any similar device consisting of a manually triggered telescoping spring-loaded steel whip terminated in a heavy calibre striking tip.

So, no you can't have one of those. It's a crime unless you have a license to possess it (the exceptions in subsection 4 would not apply).

Maximum sentence: 5 years.

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by dexlargo
It's a prohibited weapon under the Criminal Code, S.91(2): Part 3 of the schedule to the regulations define prohibited weapons, inluding the following: So, no you can't have one of those. It's a crime unless you have a license to possess it (the exceptions in subsection 4 would not apply).

Maximum sentence: 5 years.

its only illegal if you have when when you have commited an offense though.

and only automatic ones are illegal, not the manual ones that you flick

[Mibz]

Originally posted by GQBalla
and only automatic ones are illegal, not the manual ones that you flick

There's the key right there. No spring or actuator, no problem.

[urban.one]

And why would you be needing these? Laye night bar fights outside the bar? Seriously.

[TKRIS]

And, as usual, carrying anything in Canada for the purposes of protection is illegal.
So, when asked, you carry it in your car because your starter solenoid sometimes needs a whack to get going, or some other such valid reason why you might have it.

God we've got some stupid fucking laws, and people, in this country...

[BigMass]

Originally posted by urban.one
And why would you be needing these? Laye night bar fights outside the bar? Seriously.

1) Self defense of one’s person and property is the number one inalienable right a human is born with.

2) An automatic baton is Illegal, an ASP expandable baton is not. Different things. Also, buy an ASP for $100+, don’t buy cheap Chinese flea market shit that won’t close after you hit anything with it.

[dexlargo]

Originally posted by GQBalla


its only illegal if you have when when you have commited an offense though.

No, it's illegal to possess at all - there is no qualification on possession in the code.

and only automatic ones are illegal, not the manual ones that you flick

No again. The reference to spring-loaded in the description refers to the flex of the baton when used to strike - that is the spring action referred to not the means of extending the baton - if the baton when completely extended is rigid, i.e. does not flex, then it is not prohibited, if it flexes then it is prohibited.

[dexlargo]

Originally posted by BigMass

1) Self defense of one’s person and property is the number one inalienable right a human is born with.

There is no right to defense of property in Canada. In the US constitution there is, and that's why they can shoot people when they trespass. Our constitution contains no similar provision.

[Thomas Gabriel]

Who cares if it's legal? Get it if you need it.

[BigMass]

Originally posted by dexlargo

There is no right to defense of property in Canada. In the US constitution there is, and that's why they can shoot people when they trespass. Our constitution contains no similar provision.

oh? and i thought al qaeda was the biggest threat to my rights and freedoms

[beyond_ban]

They are available in malls such as market mall. Go to any knife store such as cutting edge and they usually have a nice selection of them. For a good one that wont bend and not go back into the handle after use is usually around $120. They are very helpful in dire situations, which is why i keep one in my car.

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by dexlargo
No, it's illegal to possess at all - there is no qualification on possession in the code.
No again. The reference to spring-loaded in the description refers to the flex of the baton when used to strike - that is the spring action referred to not the means of extending the baton - if the baton when completely extended is rigid, i.e. does not flex, then it is not prohibited, if it flexes then it is prohibited.

If these batons are illegal, why do they sell them in malls in Calgary? The Law - 1 You - 0

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by beyond_ban
They are available in malls such as market mall. Go to any knife store such as cutting edge and they usually have a nice selection of them. For a good one that wont bend and not go back into the handle after use is usually around $120. They are very helpful in dire situations, which is why i keep one in my car.

market mall sells them now?

i know northhill the knife store there sells them

[beyond_ban]

^ The last time i went into Cutting Edge in market mall they 3 or 4 different ones. That was a few months back, but i don't think that they would stop carrying them.

[GQBalla]

i think they closed down and turned into a roots