Ferrari to leave F1 if 2010 rules go in

[Cos]

give me a break.

“The Board of Directors also examined developments related to recent decisions taken by the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile during an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council on 29 April 2009. Although this meeting was originally called only to examine a disciplinary matter, the decisions taken mean that, for the first time ever in Formula One, the 2010 season will see the introduction of two different sets of regulations based on arbitrary technical rules and economic parameters.

“The Board considers that if this is the regulatory framework for Formula One in the future, then the reasons underlying Ferrari’s uninterrupted participation in the World Championship over the last 60 years - the only constructor to have taken part ever since its inception in 1950 - would come to a close.

“The Board also expressed its disappointment about the methods adopted by the FIA in taking decisions of such a serious nature and its refusal to effectively reach an understanding with constructors and teams. The rules of governance that have contributed to the development of Formula One over the last 25 years have been disregarded, as have the binding contractual obligations between Ferrari and the FIA itself regarding the stability of the regulations. The same rules for all teams, stability of regulations, the continuity of the FOTA’s endeavours to methodically and progressively reduce costs, and governance of Formula One are the priorities for the future. If these indispensable principles are not respected and if the regulations adopted for 2010 will not change, then Ferrari does not intend to enter its cars in the next Formula One World Championship.

“Ferrari trusts that its many fans worldwide will understand that this difficult decision is coherent with the Scuderia’s approach to motor sport and to Formula One in particular, always seeking to promote its sporting and technical values. The Chairman of the Board of Directors was mandated to evaluate the most suitable ways and methods to protect the company’s interests.”

source: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/5/9348.html

[cycosis]

So what are the rule changes?

[Cos]

Originally posted by cycosis
So what are the rule changes?

one thread below this one:

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/262718/an...e-regulations/

[DJ Lazy]

Welcome to the F1 Circus!!

[Mibz]

They can get in line. RBR has already said the same thing. From the murmurs in FOTA it looks like the only ones -not- threatening to leave will be BGP and FI since F1 is their primary purpose.

[z06power]

Toyota said the same as well...

[beyond_ban]

http://www.motorauthority.com/ferrar...es-change.html

[yellowGTS]

Seems like the teams are actually responding to the changes which tend to get pushed through by Max Mosley.

[TorqueDog]

Max Mosley = the 'Gary Bettman' of Formula1.

[Chris Elyea]

Well how 'bout that? Wiliams got their entry in early. The other nine existing teams put in "conditional" entries today. I'd say Max and Bernie called their bluff.

[Mibz]

I LOLed hard at Williams getting suspended from FOTA for entering and then 2 days later the rest of the teams join.

[rage2]

They're conditional entries. If they dont get what they want, they're out.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Max to FOTA: If you don't like my rules, go organize your own series.

FIA president Max Mosley has broken his silence on the conditional entry the nine FOTA teams made last Friday to the 2010 world championship.

Speaking to Swiss paper Motorsport Aktuell, Mosley made it quite clear that he is not going to entertain FOTA’s demands that the budget cap idea be abandoned, that the 2009 rules be carried over for next year and that the new Concorde Agreement be signed by June 12th, the date on which the successful entries will be announced.

“You cannot sign an agreement which was specified so late, before June 12th.” he said. Clearly not willing to back down on the central point of his plan, which is the budget cap.

“I say, if you want to make the rules, then go an organise your own championship. Formula 1 is ours, we make the rules. We’ve started 60 years ago and we will continue like that.”

Mosley wants new teams in F1 and believes that FOTA’s conditional entry is a tactic, “It’s quite clear that they want to slow down the process of application to the championship so that it will be too late for the new teams.”

The FIA believe they have the FOTA teams exactly where they want them. They believe that Ferrari is subject to the same legally binding agreement to compete that has compelled Williams to enter and for that reason, on June 12th I think they will name Ferrari as an entrant, despite the Italian teams’s desire to be part of the dissident group. After that it will be up to Ferrari to challenge for their right not to compete.

As for the rest, they may start to sweat a little as the 12th gets closer and they realise that this is a game of musical chairs and that when the music stops, they might well be left with no chair. Mosley may have felt compelled to say something after almost a week of silence but he is not blinking as things stand.

http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/...ir-own-series/

[Konj]

Ferrari should leave F1 and enter Nascar.

[Chris Elyea]

So last year about this time, Honda gave up and started working on this year's car, and now Brawn is dominating. If you were one of the other teams, say 5th ranked McLaren on down, maybe you should pull that trick now. Spend this year's humongous budget building a 2010 car. But go one better than Brawn: Sign up for next year's budget cap so you get to make use of the additional technical freedom. In 2010 you'd have a competitive car and save a few bucks.

[rage2]

That trick won't work today.

Last year, there was no cap on windtunnels. There was no cap on CPU time. Honda took advantage of that and designed a 2009 car where the rules were completely different using 4 full sized wind tunnels and maybe about $400m to chase multiple design directions with a retarded sized staff to find the best design compromise to achieve the best performance.

Next year, the aero rules are the same. The new windtunnel restrictions and CFD restrictions make it tough for new teams to do the same research that Honda did. There is no budget cap, but there is a windtunnel and CPU cap, sorta. The only difference in direction that can be chased is the tires, but nobody's been provided a tire yet, and only testing will you get any meaningful data to know what to do with the 2010 tires.

Teams are figuring out optimal design decisions now copying everyone. It's just a matter of time when all the big teams are close again. You're not going to see the likes of BrawnGP domination until someone takes advantage of it during the next big aero rules change.

[Chris Elyea]

Yeah, the FIA already had that angle covered:

Q: What measures are there to prevent teams spending money this year on a car that will compete under cost cap in 2010?

FIA: The teams must demonstrate that they have adhered to the spirit of the regulations and spend no more than 50% of the value of the 2010 cap on the development of the 2010 car (in 2009). Furthermore, there are limits on the value of stock of car parts which can be carried into 2010.

Guess I won't be hired as an F1 Team Manager any time soon, though the FIA may be in the market for a load of forensic accountants.

[Mibz]

Originally posted by Chris Elyea
though the FIA may be in the market for a load of forensic accountants.

For sure. Anything that you receive as a gift, anything that is subsidized or discounted, anything at all, goes towards your budget cap next year at full price. They're going to have teams of people looking at every little financial transaction made to ensure that teams don't go over the cap.

I think next seasons loophole will be a financial one, not an aerodynamic one.

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by Mibz
For sure. Anything that you receive as a gift, anything that is subsidized or discounted, anything at all, goes towards your budget cap next year at full price. They're going to have teams of people looking at every little financial transaction made to ensure that teams don't go over the cap.

I think next seasons loophole will be a financial one, not an aerodynamic one.

All this talk about budget caps, just so the FIA can hire a multi-million (i'm guessing) dollar team of accountants to stick their nose where it don't belong.... Either way, teams are gonna have to fire/lay off people to save costs, while the FIA hires people to keep track of team spending... Good way to save some money Mosley...

[Chris Elyea]

Watching Free Practice 2 in Turkey on Speed, they said the rumour is that Force India has dropped their conditions on 2010 entry and has accepted the new rules, like Williams.