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    Default 140 dead in China during Uighur protest

    Uighurs are not happy with the way they are being treated... destroying mosques and in a muslim area and cultural genocide does not sit well with these people.

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=44443

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    China said 140 people on Sunday killed in a protest in East Turkistan's capital.

    Monday, 06 July 2009 09:56

    China said 140 people on Sunday killed in a protest in East Turkistan's capital and and the government signalled a security crackdown, seeing the ethnic protest "a plot against its control".

    The protest broke out Sunday afternoon in a large market area of Urumqi, the capital, and lasted for several hours before riot police officers and paramilitary or military troops locked down the Uighur quarter of the city, according to witnesses and photographs of the riot.

    The death toll from the protest has risen to 140, the semi-official China News Agency quoted Li Zhi, the Communist Party Boss of Urumqi City, as telling a news conference on Monday morning.

    A separate report from the official Xinhua news agency had said the unrest injured 816, according to regional police authorities. That report had put the dead at 129.

    The government put the number of people on the streets on Sunday at 300 to 500 while other sources had it as high as 3,000.

    Chinese police have arrested "several hundred" who participated in the protest, Xinhua said.

    The incident followed a protest in Urumqi -- a city of 2.3 million residents-- against government handling of a late June clash between Han Chinese and Uighur factory workers in far southern China, where two Uighurs died in Shaoguan.

    On Monday morning "the situation was under control", Xinhua said. There were no immediate reports of protest in other parts of East Turkistan.

    But, China's government has blamed Uighur exiles for "inciting a riot" in the Muslim region.

    "After the (Shaoguan) incident, the three forces abroad strived to beat this up and seized it as an opportunity to attack us, inciting street protests," Nuer Baikeli, governor of Xinjiang, said in a speech shown on Xinjiang television.

    Officials ordered traffic off the streets in parts of Urumqi to ensure there was no fresh unrest, Xinhua added.

    "The city is basically under martial law," Yang Jin, a dried fruit merchant in Urumqi, said by telephone.

    "It would be wrong for anyone to say he wasn't afraid, but the situation looks calm for now."

    "Blame"

    An unnamed Chinese official blamedthe protest on the World Uyghur (also spelt Uighur) Congress led by Rebiya Kadeer", according to Xinhua.

    Rebiya Kadeer is a Uighur businesswoman now in exile in the United States after years in jail, and accused of pro-freedom activities. She did not answer calls for comment.

    But exiled Uighur groups adamantly rejected the Chinese government claim of a plot. They said the riot was an outpouring of pent-up anger over government policies and Han Chinese dominance of economic opportunities.

    "They're blaming us as a way to distract the Uighurs' attention from the discrimination and oppression that sparked this protest," said Dilxat Raxit, a spokesman for the World Uyghur Congress in exile in Sweden.

    "It began as a peaceful assembly. There were thousands of people shouting to stop ethnic discrimination ... They are tired of suffering in silence."

    The government's claims of conspiracy by pro-independence exiles echo the handling of rioting across Tibetan areas in March last year, which Beijing also called a plot hatched abroad.

    East Turkistan is the doorway to China's trade and energy ties with central Asia, and is itself rich in gas, minerals and farm produce. But many Uighurs say they see little of that wealth.

    "The government is applying its ready-made template that all ethnic tension is caused by external plots," said Nicholas Bequelin, a China researcher for Human Rights Watch, a New York-based group, who has long studied East Turkistan.

    China calls it "the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region."

    "This incident could further polarise ethnic groups in Xinjiang ... The official reaction is going to be pretty much what we saw in Tibet -- more repression, tighter control."

    Chinese state television showed rioters throwing rocks at police and overturning a police car, and smoke billowing from burning vehicles.

    Alim Seytoff, of the Uyghur American Association in Washington D.C., emailed pictures showing hundreds of locals confronting police in Urumqi, armoured riot-control vehicles patrolling streets, wounded and bloodied civilians lying on streets, and ranks of anti-riot police with shields and clubs.

    Almost half of Xinjiang's 20 million people are Uighurs. The population of Urumqi is mostly Han Chinese, and the city is under tight police security even in normal times.

    East Turkistan, occupied by the communist China in 1949, is home to about eight million Uighurs, ethnic Turks, and its name was changed in 1955.

    Human rights groups accuse Beijing of using claims of "terrorism" as an excuse to crack down on peaceful pro-independence sentiment and expressions of Uighur identity.
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    they are angry because they are tired of americans trying to run the world

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    This is an older report but its straight from the horses mouth.
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    "I went there[Afganistan] so I could train to fight against the Chinese, not against the Americans," Anvar said. "I have no reason to fight against the U.S."
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    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=100790460


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    "It is common practice for Beijing to blame outsiders for any problems in Xinjiang, as it does with problems in Tibet," Alim Seytoff, a spokesman for the World Uighur Congress pressure group, told Al Jazeera.

    "The root cause of the problem is really the Chinese government's long-standing repressive policies," he said.
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    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/as...843828461.html

    Here's a video clip of the rioting...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8135491.stm
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    no
    the evil zionist regime is the cause of this conflict

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    Here's a video of the two Uighur factory workers getting beaten to death. This was the cause of the protest.
    http://uyghurtv.com/?tubepress_page=5
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    "Women have been on the front line in Urumqi partly because more than 1,400 men in the Muslim Uighur minority have been rounded up by police since ethnic rioting broke out July 5."

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    This is what happens when people are oppressed. They snap, then we wonder why it all happened in the first place.
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    Originally posted by bashir26
    This is what happens when people are oppressed. They snap, then we wonder why it all happened in the first place.
    Uighurs are usually paid less (both voluntary and involuntary) for the same job as Han Chinese which was fine for Han when the world was consuming like crazy and factories are pushing all cylinders and jobs are aplenty.

    Now factory owners are continuously looking at cost cutting and has repeatedly looking to the Uighurs to fill the jobs for less. This has created tensions among the workers/job seekers who keep losing jobs to Uighurs.

    This got to a boiling point when 2 Uighurs are killed by Han and the internet do what it does best at fanning the flames with false stories and what already fragile relationship turned into vigilantism and riots.

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    Al Qaeda vows revenge on Chinese workers over persecution of Muslim Uighurs... Now they're targetting Chinese workers overseas in Africa.

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    'There is an increasing amount of chatter . . . among jihadists who claim they want to see action against China.'

    Three weeks ago, AQIM attacked an Algerian security convoy protecting Chinese engineers on a motorway project, killing 24 paramilitary police.
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...m-Uighurs.html
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    i wonder if the uighurs would even want alqaeda on their side...

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    Probably not but when you've been oppressed for so long, any help is better than no help... even from the US.

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    As clashes between Uighurs and Han Chinese erupted in July in the Xinjiang capital Urumqi -- just a day's drive from Almaty -- many of Kazakhstan's 300,000 Uighurs found themselves torn between anger and despair for their kinfolk across the border.

    "If our people here had any weapons available they would have gone there in no time to help their brothers," said Malik Vasilov, a 40-year-old man who came to the mosque to pray.

    "Our family always had Chinese neighbors. They are a peaceful people," said Baratzhan, 68, who moved to Kazakhstan from Xinjiang in 1956. "The government is to blame."
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    "Chinese government executes 196 Uighurs"
    http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=105228

    "According to the official statistics, 184 people were killed last month in the unrests in Xinjiang-Uighur autonomous province of China last month, but unofficial figures showed more than 1000 people dead and nearly 2000 arrested. The Chinese officials didnít rule out that the arrested people would be executed.
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    Trying to put censorship on other countries? Too bad it backfired.

    "We're dealing with a police state, not a democracy ... the government needs to tell Beijing that we don't appreciate the type of censorship that it's trying to lever on the Melbourne film festival,"

    http://asia.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090...e-1dc2b55.html
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    Young-ish fat Chinese guy at work that likes to just stir crap up for no reason was mentioning, at the company's stampede party, that if he was the Chinese government he would just level the whole area and kill them all since they're ALL simply terrorists in that region.

    Coincidentally, (not really when you consider he sucks at work) I got an email 2 days later saying he was laid off along with 8 other people. True story.
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    "This is just another case of the media trying to make a monster out of China, if Alqaeda started a successful protest movement in Canada I am pretty sure we would be freaking the fuck out about it too."

    Where is the proof that Alaeda is deeply involved with Uighurs?
    The media isn't making China into a monster, its showing the monster that IS China. China didn't clamp down on this area quickly because of Alqaeda... they clamp down on anyone with anything to say about the government. EVEN CHINESE PEOPLE.

    Quebec wanted to become free from Canada and started their own protest... the government did not go in and shoot at them. They did not deny them lawyers or censor the media covering the protests.

    http://www.newsobserver.com/1635/story/1611060.html
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    Originally posted by Pahnda
    Young-ish fat Chinese guy at work that likes to just stir crap up for no reason was mentioning, at the company's stampede party, that if he was the Chinese government he would just level the whole area and kill them all since they're ALL simply terrorists in that region.

    Coincidentally, (not really when you consider he sucks at work) I got an email 2 days later that he was laid off along with 8 other people. True story.
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    It IS like Afganistan, and the Chinese government is the Taliban controlling the local population. To solve the problem look at the root causes. People are being oppressed, tortured, and executed because they have something to say about the regime. This is a well known fact and there are thousands of witnesses as well as documentation from many distinguished human rights groups. It then goes on to reject, harrass and detain lawyers that take up cases against the government. Its basically you defending yourself against the court for a life sentence term. Good luck.

    Media is another BIG topic. The Chinese government has a stranglehold on what media is spread in China. There is no doubt about that. Why do they censor media? Why don't they allow reporters to take pictures and video on 'sensitive' matters? If the people are so happy then why not let them speak for themselves?

    The battle IS one-sided and its on the side of China. Uighurs, like Tibetans, are struggling to get video/picture/text outside of China. Internet is cut, phones are cut, electricity is sporadic... They live in a country that can take your life at any given moment. I'm pretty sure that the Uighurs and other ethnicities are not happy with the way they are being treated. So how am I being brainwashed? Please explain China's side of the story.
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