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    Originally posted by Supa Dexta
    Anyone who has had it, did you continue to have a cough afterwards? My gf thought she may have had it last week, but was over it within 2-3 days, but now it's over a week later, and she's still coughing.
    If the coughing is worse in the night and early morning, it could be post-nasal drip - A lingering inflammation of the sinuses.

    You can either go to the doc for drugs, or you can use a Neti Pot to clear it up.

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    Thought I would do a news poll this morning. Here is what is on these websites.

    Calgary Herald headlines:

    "Brace for more H1N1 deaths, Canada's top doctor warns"

    "Smooth-going Calgary clinics stun waiting parents"

    "Four more H1N1 deaths in Alberta; one in Calgary"

    Toronto Star headlines:

    "Cat gets H1N1 from its owner"

    "Flu pandemic is not slowing down"

    "Flu shots for Leafs, Raptors spark fury"

    cbc.ca:

    "ICU admissions up for flu-related illness"

    "H1N1 infects pet cat, ferrets"

    "H1N1 vaccine safe after millions of doses: WHO"

    "Beware of online swine-flu remedies: Health Canada"

    "The vaccine - The road to roll-out"

    Telegraph.co.uk:

    0 flu headlines on main page.

    1 buried in the Health section:

    "Swine flu: schoolchildren 'could receive vaccine'"

    bbc.co.uk:

    0 flu headlines on main page.

    0 flu headlines on news front page.

    "Swine flu scare in Mongolia" video in health section.


    North American media are continuing to sensationalize the flu. The "flu pandemic not slowing down" was a particularly brutal piece in the Toronto Star this morning. Scare tactics for normal people to get the vaccine, even though it is still only being given to high-riskers.

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    Originally posted by Masked Bandit
    With regards to the Flames thing, once again it's the media perverting reality. The Flames WERE NOT the only private group to move to the front of the line. I have a client who works for an oil company here in town (no, I won't say which one) that brought in a private nurse and had shots for all the staff (those who wanted it anyway). Funny, nobody heard anything about that on the news. That's because the Flames are a much easier / sexier target for media hysteria.

    FWIW, I don't think the Flames did anything wrong. They asked if it could be done, there were told yes, so they proceeded. Of course this was all before anyone knew there would be shortages.
    Then the problem is even more outrageous. Nobody outside of high risk groups should be getting the shot bypassing the lines at private locations. The flames should have known better along with anyone else who got it done at private locations.

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    Originally posted by Pollywog
    So some new news has hit me recently..

    I thought it was only fair for me to share this after how much talking I did in this thread regarding N1H1 and the vaccine. I in no way am revoking any statements I made, nor changing my opinion - but this hit closer to home than I imagined.

    A friend of mine, Daley M., was found dead in her bed yesterday morning.

    The night before she was at one of the local hospitals getting checked out, because with the current symptoms she had it was possible she had contracted the virus. The fact that she also was asthmatic as well as a diabetic put her in the high-risk group, so it was justified. They said she appeared to have the virus, and they sent her home with some more details, etc. Then, after a nights rest she was found lifeless in her own bed.

    Daley, 20 years old. One of the sweetest girls on the planet.



    While it still isn't known if N1H1 was in fact the reason for her passing away, it still is an eye-opener as to how little things can sometimes do a lot of damage. Absolutely devastating, don't know what else to say.


    To finish, I am still against the vaccine.

    So even when it hits you in the head, you refuse to acknowledge the truth.

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    Originally posted by Diocletian



    So even when it hits you in the head, you refuse to acknowledge the truth.
    Damn -- you said it.

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    Originally posted by Toma


    Huh... not what I have read... sure, wikepedia references the cytokine storm... but... many many claim bacterial pneumonia was the number one killer.

    New Scientist:
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-pandemic.html

    US Government
    http://www.nih.gov/news/health/aug2008/niaid-19.htm

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    In a cruel sort of irony, the individuals with the healthiest immune systems were the ones who succumbed to the virus, which hit the patient so virulently, that the immune system in response went into overdrive, causing a cytokine storm.

    A cytokine storm occurs when the immune system is so overwhelmed that it sends too many antibodies at once to the infected area of the body. The result is that the immune system itself hastens the death of the patient in these instances (New York Times).



    In 1918, many of its victims died within twenty four hours. Most of them coughed up blood that resulted from lung hemorrhaging; some of them literally drowned in their own body fluids.

    http://www.fitnesstipsforlife.com/11...swine-flu.html


    American scientists believe that the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was so deadly because it triggered a tremendous immune response in the human body which made it destroy its own cells. Spanish Flu was estimated to have killed over 50 million people - young adults were worst hit.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52928.php

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    Hit home for me.

    Sister, brother in law and two children 1 and 4 just got confirmed for the swine flu.

    I hope they are going to be ok.
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    Originally posted by Diocletian



    In a cruel sort of irony, the individuals with the healthiest immune systems were the ones who succumbed to the virus, which hit the patient so virulently, that the immune system in response went into overdrive, causing a cytokine storm.

    A cytokine storm occurs when the immune system is so overwhelmed that it sends too many antibodies at once to the infected area of the body. The result is that the immune system itself hastens the death of the patient in these instances (New York Times).



    In 1918, many of its victims died within twenty four hours. Most of them coughed up blood that resulted from lung hemorrhaging; some of them literally drowned in their own body fluids.

    http://www.fitnesstipsforlife.com/11...swine-flu.html


    American scientists believe that the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was so deadly because it triggered a tremendous immune response in the human body which made it destroy its own cells. Spanish Flu was estimated to have killed over 50 million people - young adults were worst hit.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/52928.php
    Yeah, 1918 was a horrific flu. There were even many documentations of visual dermal scarring (molting) on the skin. It was so bad that it was often misdiagnosed because noone assumed the flu could do that. Normally only scarring of the lungs. One can only imagine the damage to other organs like the brain.

    My air purfier plasmacluster is going full blast for the next week.
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    Originally posted by D. Dub
    Wouldn't this friend with the preexisting high risk conditions have been a prime candidate for vaccination then -- especially given the relatively low severe side effect rate (1%)?
    I suspect the time the vaccine has been publicly available to the time she contracted H1N1 and died from it would not have been long enough for the vaccine to actually take effect.

    Getting the needle doesn't instantly mean you're protected.
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    Originally posted by TorqueDog
    I suspect the time the vaccine has been publicly available to the time she contracted H1N1 and died from it would not have been long enough for the vaccine to actually take effect.

    Getting the needle doesn't instantly mean you're protected.
    Not the point I was making.

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    Fatties get vaccine now.
    One of the medical conditions that gets you into the vaccination clinic is obesity.

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    Here's the product leaflet for those that want more info

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    This guy comes across as a bit of a quack, but he does to make some valid points

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3XlJB7J5-o

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XNHoJAAuXs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kKWtwCjn7Q
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    I've posted these before, but it's warrants posting again.






    It really in amazing how much damage can be born from a falsified study, performed and specifically designed to obtain a predetermined outcome, using a carefully selected, tiny sample size, for the personal gain of the perpetrators.

    It really is an amazing and interesting story.
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    Heres the Leaflet from the manufacturer

    http://www.gsk.ca/english/html/our-p..._CAPA01v01.pdf
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    Feel free to post any research you have that proves its safe.

    Thanks and looking forward to reading.

    Originally posted by sputnik


    Again. Just more common anti-vaccination rhetoric that isn't backed by science or even any quantitative proof.

    Feel free to post any published scientific research you can find that backs your claims.

    I will be willing to be that there is NONE that you can find and you will instead only assume (like the other anti-vaccination idiots) that correlation somehow equals causation.

    So feel free to start posting you "endless research" that proves your point.
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    I'm glad nothing like this will ever happen, again!
    The amount people learned from H1N1 will protect people for generations.

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    I'm pro-vax, but this is the first use fo the word facile I've ever seen on Beyond. Kudos!
    I still like this post! Facile is such a neato word.
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    What a fascinating thread. Great bump.

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    Missed the reference to H1N1 before I clicked to enter the thread, was very confused with the poll results until I checked the date(s)..
    Signatures are dumb..

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