I think you have as much right to freedom as the responsibility to protect it. Though joining the military is not the only way to strengthen your country.
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I think you have as much right to freedom as the responsibility to protect it. Though joining the military is not the only way to strengthen your country.
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Ah, you're one of those "citizens of convenience". Live in Canada, use Canada, but don't consider yourself Canadian.Originally posted by TurboD
I live in Canada, and was born in Canada, but that fact does not make up who I am, it's just a label people use.
Just like there is no such thing as Government, only individuals that give themselves power over other individuals in a geographical location.
If you ask to see the government, this is not possible, what you will get is an individual or several individuals, because that's all the govt is, its a concept used to control people.
I grew up in Canada, I love the national sports teams, celebrated our gold medals, wear a poppy to respect our soldiers who sacrificed themselves for today's freedom (the very freedom you are telling everyone here should be available to all), pay my taxes, work everyday at my job to see how I can make my work reflect Canadian education and standards, sing our national anthem everytime it is presented, I love this country - MY country.
My education is Canadian, my wife is Canadian, my citizenship and passport say Canada. I think I can say that I'm a Canadian.
I can't see how you can be born and live in Canada but not call yourself a Canadian.
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This means nothing.Originally posted by eg_eric
Ah, you're one of those "citizens" of convenience. Live in Canada, use Canada, but don't consider yourself Canadian.
I grew up in Canada, I love the national sports teams, celebrated our gold medals, wear a poppy to respect our soldiers who sacrificed themselves for today's freedom (the very freedom you are telling everyone here should be available to all), pay my taxes, work everyday at my job to see how I can make my work reflect Canadian education and standards, I love my country.
My education is Canadian, my wife is Canadian, my citizenship and passport say Canada. I think I can say that I'm a Canadian.
I can't see how you can be born and live in Canada but not call yourself a Canadian.
By saying this, all you are saying is you are proud for INDIVIDUALS making good choices and acting in a good manner.
you don't mention the murderers and thiefs that equally make up "your country"
you cherry pick to give yourself a delusion that makes it seem like everything is all fine and magical.
what you talk about with pride is just a delusion.
It's actually a mild form of mental illness.
there is no such thing as Canadian education, 2+2 cannot be assigned a country.
What about the innocent people your canadian soldiers killed?
and you pay your taxes with a delusional smile on your face, good job.
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so murderers and thiefs make up Canada according to you? Last i checked, Canada PUNISHES murderers and thieves. We're not made up of them.Originally posted by TurboD
This means nothing.
By saying this, all you are saying is you are proud for INDIVIDUALS making good choices and acting in a good manner.
you don't mention the murderers and thiefs that equally make up "your country"
you cherry pick to give yourself a delusion that makes it seem like everything is all fine and magical.
what you talk about with pride is just a delusion.
It's actually a mild form of mental illness.
So being proud of being a Canadian is a mental illness???
Buddy, you're about to get flamed by all the Canadians on this forum.
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Listen to what you're saying, "Canada punishes murderers"Originally posted by eg_eric
so murderers and thiefs make up Canada according to you? Last i checked, Canada PUNISHES murderers and thieves. We're not made up of them.
So being proud of being a Canadian is a mental illness???
Buddy, you're about to get flames by all the canadians on this forum.
You are assuming there is no such thing as a canadian murderer.
Canada is made up of tree huggers and any violent criminals or evil people are not canadian, they must be russian or something, lol.
LOL
like Canada is only good people and all they do all day is punish bad people.
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They do not give themselves power, actually, you grant it to them. By obeying the laws of the country, you give the government legitmacy, therefore giving them the power to govern.Originally posted by TurboD
Just like there is no such thing as Government, only individuals that give themselves power over other individuals in a geographical location.
By living on this chunk of land legitmized by your peers also living here, you forfeit certain natural rights in order to receive certain governances. In the ideal system, these governances would be minimal (i.e. protection from exterior and interior threats, the guarantee that you can live according to your will as long as it does not negatively impact others who are also in the same chunck of land).
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True, this is why we vote. Otherwise, go live in the Arctic if you don't want to obey laws of the country, right?Originally posted by freshprince1
They do not give themselves power, actually, you grant it to them. By obeying the laws of the country, you give the government legitmacy, therefore giving them the power to govern.
Exactly.Originally posted by freshprince1
By living on this chunk of land legitmized by your peers also living here, you forfeit certain natural rights in order to receive certain governances. In the ideal system, these governances would be minimal (i.e. protection from exterior and interior threats, the guarantee that you can live according to your will as long as it does not negatively impact others who are also in the same chunck of land).
ok, so Canada has murderers and violent criminals... Is this Canada according to you?Originally posted by TurboD
Listen to what you're saying, "Canada punishes murderers"
You are assuming there is no such thing as a canadian murderer.
Canada is made up of tree huggers and any violent criminals or evil people are not canadian, they must be russian or something, lol.
LOL
like Canada is only good people and all they do all day is punish bad people.
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I guess there is an I in team according to Turbo D.
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People choose to live together so that they can share resource and help each other, that's the basic concept. Everyone is different, some people do certain things better than the others. We contribute with what we do best and take advantage of the others in return.Originally posted by TurboD
Listen to what you're saying, "Canada punishes murderers"
You are assuming there is no such thing as a canadian murderer.
Canada is made up of tree huggers and any violent criminals or evil people are not canadian, they must be russian or something, lol.
LOL
like Canada is only good people and all they do all day is punish bad people.
Of course some people will just take advantage without contributing. Some people will make bad choices because of various reasons. As a society we help whoever that needs help. We do what we can to correct the people from the wrong and hopefully they can contribute to the society again like anyone else. If they refuse then they can all go to hell if you ask me.
I'm not a canadian myself even though nothing is stopping me from getting my passport. People always ask me why. I love this country, I love the people, I love the Rockies, I love the snow. But I'm not 100% committed. May be I'm being stubborn but I'm 100% sure about my commitment to my home country and I have no problem to go back one day when it needs me. I just can't say the same to Canada.
Some people talk about getting citizenship like buying an Ipod. It's cheap and it's useful, why don't you buy it? Well, if one day I have to fight for Apple, I would probably reconsider.
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My point exactly on mandatory service.Originally posted by lilmira
People choose to live together so that they can share resource and help each other, that's the basic concept. Everyone is different, some people do certain things better than the others. We contribute with what we do best and take advantage of the others in return.
Of course some people will just take advantage without contributing. Some people will make bad choices because of various reasons. As a society we help whoever that needs help. We do what we can to correct the people from the wrong and hopefully they can contribute to the society again like anyone else. If they refuse then they can all go to hell if you ask me.
I'm not a canadian myself even though nothing is stopping me from getting my passport. People always ask me why. I love this country, I love the people, I love the Rockies, I love the snow. But I'm not 100% committed. May be I'm being stubborn but I'm 100% sure about my commitment to my home country and I have no problem to go back one day when it needs me. I just can't say the same to Canada.
Some people talk about getting citizenship like buying an Ipod. It's cheap and it's useful, why don't you buy it? Well, if one day I have to fight for Apple, I would probably reconsider.
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2 year service in Canada would be pointless though, start at 6 months, long enough to do basic and specialization. 1 yr to become a corporal, 9 months for medics/transportation.Originally posted by 3g4u
My point exactly on mandatory service.
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If I could take a moment and explain what your delusion looks like to a normal human being....Originally posted by eg_eric
ok, so Canada has murderers and violent criminals... Is this Canada according to you?
You look like the husband with the alcoholic wife and you're at a dinner party with a fake delusional smile on your face and telling everyone how great things are with the family and how happy everyone is.
You cover for your drunk wife (canadians) and you focus on the happy parts of your family in order to distract not only yourself and give yourself a false sense or reality, but you are distracting others and are worried about what your neighbors would think of your and your family if they found out that everything wasn't a fairy tale.
total delusion.
Man up and open your eyes, see the world for what it really is.
How do you expect to fix the problem when you mascaraed around like Canada is a country of perfection.
Have you taken a look at the unemployment rate lately?
Have you noticed how much patriot tax the govt is shaving off your paycheck?
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WTF you faggot. Go die in a fucking hole.Originally posted by Legless_Marine2
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they should ban you for being aN idiot. How new are you to the Internet?Originally posted by beyond_ban
WTF you faggot. Go die in a fucking hole.
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If link said liberal party and it was lemon party than your still an idiot for knot checking your bottom screen newb. R u using ur Intrnet from Jr high?
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My bad faggot, i never have seen that site before. Yes i am brand newOriginally posted by banned3x
they should ban you for being aN idiot. How new are you to the Internet?
If link said liberal party and it was lemon party than your still an idiot for knot checking your bottom screen newb. R u using ur Intrnet from Jr high?
Go impregnate a 16 yo, and have the kid you useless piece of shit.
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HAHAHA, I remember what lemon party was only after beyond_ban posted. I somehow locked that out of my mind.
NSFW sites shouldn't be linked outside of askleo without NSFW tags, but that is kind of funny.
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i hope your dp is your daughter or something
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I don't see the issue with not considering yourself a "real" citizen of Canada. I consider myself to be a freeman on the land and have no issues so long as I govern myself accordingly.
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We are supposed to have freedom from other people's religious beliefs, the separation of church and state, but we are not free from other people's political beliefs and I believe this is the next big step. Democracy or whatever you call the system in place is basically a few people forcing their beliefs on others with the illusion of choice through voting.
I see little point in helping the government by relying on it the least. These people are stealing from you, by all means you should take back as much as you can. The only way you can help socialism is by helping to end it faster, take as much as you can and contribute as little as possible. After all the system rewards those who do this, even though it wasn't intended by design.Originally posted by TurboD
You can live your life in a way that doesn't rely on government aid or support as much as you can manage to.
By doing this you can show people how little the government is needed to live a long and happy life.
The best way you can contribute to society while suffering through socialism is to be honorable in all your voluntary relationships (ones that aren't forced upon you like with governments).
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