Yah, but 100 ft/lbs of torque from an sir is!!!!!Originally posted by ThreePly
300 ft/lbs of torque isn't though.
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Yah, but 100 ft/lbs of torque from an sir is!!!!!Originally posted by ThreePly
300 ft/lbs of torque isn't though.
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Just for the record, it's not right to compare a N/A motor like the Z06 to a supercharged engine like in the 2003 cobra when you're talking horsepower numbers.
Stock for stock, of course the corvette is better in every aspect...handling and power. That's why the mustang and the corvette aren't really in teh same league. The corvette also costs a hell of a lot more, but it's a good bang for the buck. The GT40 is supposed to combat the corvette and viper...mustang was supposed to match up against the camaro...and it never could until the camaro was discontinued.
Anyway, that's just how I see it.
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haha......but what if that 100 ft/lbs kicks in at 2000rpm....na, what the hell am I talking about. It barely kicks in at 6500 rpm.hahaOriginally posted by LUDELVR
Yah, but 100 ft/lbs of torque from an sir is!!!!!
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too true man!! All bark no bite!!! hahaha, Last time I was in an sir, I could hear it (barely) and in terms of feeling it....couldn't feel anything!! haha, it was funny too, cuz when I was in lethbridge, one of the mechanics was telling me to trade my sr-v for an sir and I was like "r u on crack?" and he was trying to convince me that an sir would run circles around my car!! hahahah, that's why I always pick on them and shut them down when they want to race!!! hahaha ,anyway!Originally posted by ThreePly
haha......but what if that 100 ft/lbs kicks in at 2000rpm....na, what the hell am I talking about. It barely kicks in at 6500 rpm.haha
some of those damn ricers with the VAFC try and engage their VTEC point sooner and it's completely useless but whatever man!! If they think it works!!
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How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
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I don't think so son!!! Boost owns you!!!Originally posted by civic_rida
How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
hahhahha, it's funny how I can say that now!!!
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Why not exactly? If they are measured using the same horsepower scale, it doesn't matter if we are comparing a V8 to a jet engine, regardless of aspiration.Originally posted by ThreePly
Just for the record, it's not right to compare a N/A motor like the Z06 to a supercharged engine like in the 2003 cobra when you're talking horsepower numbers.
Drag racing is for fast cars. Solo 2 is for fast drivers.
I'd Hit It!
Don't waste your money like we did. Sell your car and start at a higher RWD/AWD platform. It's just too much money to make Honda/Acura's go really fast IMO.Originally posted by civic_rida
How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
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Sure, powered by Daddy. Once he pulls the sponsorship, you would have NOTHING!Originally posted by civic_rida
How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
I am user #49Originally posted by rage2
Shit, there's only 49 users here, I doubt we'll even break 100
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Originally posted by SmelltheRubber
Maybe...
But were way out of similiar price brackets here...if ford sold a mustang for as much as a corvette, you'd be damn sure that engine would make comparable power...now I see I shouldnt have brought up a corvette in the first place...
But while were ont he subject of motors... bring in a 2000 Camaro SS and a 2002 Firebird Trans Am- both these cars use pretty much the same motor as a corvette (using a LS1 5.7L V8) The 2002 Firebird Trans Am puts out 325hp and the Camaro SS puts out 320. The 2000 cobra puts out 320 from a 4.6L motor.
And all these cars cost around the same...
This whole argument is going nowhere......anyways all Ive been trying to say is that a 260hp V8 in a mass production car is not bad. Thats all...im done.
"I'm just talking motors here, it doesn't matter what car they are in, or if they are in the same class."
Why did I say that? Well you tried to compare the base model vette motor to the cobra motor. Again these are two completely different cars, the cobra would get hammered by the base vette in all things performance. As for your camaro numbers next time you talk to a cobra guy ask how bad he gets beaten by those SS cars. When your racing it doesn't matter who has the most advanced motor, it's who can get to the finish line first. The ford 4.6's are POS, they have a weak bottom end, and for having DOHC's 320 hp really is pathetic. Stop trying to make excuses for the 4.6 and face the fact that the motors in the stangs arn't impressive. For the performance that you get, yes they are a good deal, but nothing about them is spectacular. If you had not said this:
"The corvette has an entire LITRE more of displacement and yet only makes 30hp more" (comparing the Cobra's 4.6 to the 5.7)
I would not have said anything, but you did. Before you go comparing shit make sure you know a little about them. The 5.7 is a million times the motor that the 4.6 will ever be.
4wheeldrift: You can't compare power outputs from an NA motor to a FI motor. Just look at racing, name one league that allows similar cars with similar displacement motors of both FI and NA to race against each other. It just doesn't happen, the FI motors would walk all over the NA motors. Isn't there some sort of correction tho for FI motors? Displacement x 0.5 + displacement = it's comparable NA motor? I don't know the exact calculation but I think thats pretty close.
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It's just that somebody was using the 390hp of the 2003 cobra in their calculations against a Z06 engine to calculate the HP/litre. Comparing horsepower is fine, but when you compare HP/litre between a N/A car and a supercharged car...then I don't think that's fair until the Z06 is supercharged as well. In this context, at least, that's what I think.Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Why not exactly? If they are measured using the same horsepower scale, it doesn't matter if we are comparing a V8 to a jet engine, regardless of aspiration.
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Shit, you could take my car right now...I just don't go pretending my car is something that it's not.Originally posted by civic_rida
How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
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Is that why you took off your spoiler??Originally posted by ThreePly
Shit, you could take my car right now...I just don't go pretending my car is something that it's not.
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haha...Ya man, I thought it was creating a lot of wind resistance. Ever since I took it off, I've been spanking ludes and shit.Originally posted by LUDELVR
Is that why you took off your spoiler??
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Ever heard of an inlet restrictor? I can think of more than a couple of race series that let turbos and NA cars run together, but the turbo cars are always smaller displacement and are forced to carry ballast. There are ways to offset the advantages quite easily. Inlet restrictors, extra weight, smaller displacement, there are always ways to make all the cars equal. This is what makes the USTCC so interesting.Originally posted by 5.9 R/T
4wheeldrift: You can't compare power outputs from an NA motor to a FI motor. Just look at racing, name one league that allows similar cars with similar displacement motors of both FI and NA to race against each other. It just doesn't happen, the FI motors would walk all over the NA motors. Isn't there some sort of correction tho for FI motors? Displacement x 0.5 + displacement = it's comparable NA motor? I don't know the exact calculation but I think thats pretty close.
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Yup. Doesn't change the fact that without changing the FI motor you can't compare the two.Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Ever heard of an inlet restrictor?
You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
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I don't see why. Please enlighten me. Saying you can't compare to an FI motor and an NA motor of similar displacements is like saying you can't compare to identical motors that use different cam profiles. One is simple flowing more air than the other.Originally posted by 5.9 R/T
Yup. Doesn't change the fact that without changing the FI motor you can't compare the two.
Drag racing is for fast cars. Solo 2 is for fast drivers.
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I'm talking in terms of hp/l, r u?Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
I don't see why. Please enlighten me. Saying you can't compare to an FI motor and an NA motor of similar displacements is like saying you can't compare to identical motors that use different cam profiles. One is simple flowing more air than the other.
You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
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Who cares how old we are? What matters is what you have now. Who cares if 2 years down the road you have 200hp, because 2 years down the road, I could have 500hp for all you know. I don't think I've heard anybody say "I could've beaten your car 2 years ago". Nobody gives a shit man, what matters is NOW, not what your GOING to do, not what you've had, and not what you plan to have later on down the road.Originally posted by civic_rida
How old are u guys. By the time im ur age my car should be able to take what u have right now
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This reminds me of people on Hondaprelude.com who would always put "future mods, blah blah blah" shit, I woulda put "future mods....a jet engine!!"Originally posted by buh_buh
Who cares how old we are? What matters is what you have now. Who cares if 2 years down the road you have 200hp, because 2 years down the road, I could have 500hp for all you know. I don't think I've heard anybody say "I could've beaten your car 2 years ago". Nobody gives a shit man, what matters is NOW, not what your GOING to do, not what you've had, and not what you plan to have later on down the road.
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