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    Default Malaysian Christians fearful as church attacks rise

    Its getting harder to sympathize with the moderates...

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    KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Would-be arsonists in mostly Muslim Malaysia struck at a convent school and a sixth church on Sunday while church and government leaders called for calm in a row over Christians' use of the word "Allah" to refer to God. World The attacks threaten Prime Minister Najib Razak's plan to win back non-Muslim support before elections due by 2013 and may prevent investors from returning to Malaysia that has trailed Thailand and Indonesia for foreign investment. The row, over a court ruling that allowed a Catholic newspaper to use "Allah" in its Malay-language editions, had prompted Muslims to protest at mosques and sparked arson attacks on a string of churches that saw a Pentecostalist church gutted. "The situation is under control and the people should not be worried," Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was quoted as saying by state news agency Bernama. The attacks appear to have spread to other Malaysian states. Police said a petrol bomb was thrown at a guard house of a Catholic convent school in the sleepy town of Taiping, around 300 km (185 miles) from the capital Kuala Lumpur. It did not explode. Several broken bottles and paint thinners were found at the Saint Louis church next to the convent and one of the country's oldest Anglican churches, All Saints, also in Taiping. Police and church officials said attackers also hurled bricks and stones at glass windows of the Good Shepherd Catholic church in Miri -- a major logging and oil town in Sarawak state. Sarawak and neighboring Sabah state are a key vote bank for Najib's National Front Party and home to a majority of Malaysia's Christians that account for 9.1 percent of the country's 28 million population. Many are non-English speaking adherents who have used the word "Allah" for decades. On Sunday, Malaysians packed churches to listen to sermons of "reaching out in friendship to all, including Muslims" and "keeping the peace in multi-religious Malaysia" but many felt their religious rights were being trampled. "There are extremists in this country and the government seems unable to do anything," said Wilson Matayun, a salesman who attended Mass at St Anthony's Church in Kuala Lumpur. "I am losing faith in our government. I pray it does not get worse." Matayun is from Borneo island where the Catholic Herald says it has to use the word "Allah" to describe the Christian God in order to serve Christians who can only speak Malay. The government has appealed against the ruling, a marked contrast to countries like Indonesia, Egypt and Syria where Christian minorities freely use the Arabic word to refer to God. Some Malaysian Muslims say that the paper wants to use to word to confuse and convert Muslims and by midday Sunday 178,392 people has signed up for a Facebook group that opposes Christians using "Allah". Malaysia is mainly Muslim and Malay but there are sizable ethnic Chinese and Indian communities who mainly practice Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism. They handed the government its biggest losses in 2008 state and national elections in part due to feelings of religious marginalization and growing disillusionment with corruption. Najib's handling of the issue will determine whether he can keep the support of the Malays and win back ethnic Chinese and Indian voters to solidify his grip on power after taking control of the government last year. (Editing by Dominic Evans)

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    srsly? over a god damn word.

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    God = Allah = Yahweh

    They're the same damn god...

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    Originally posted by l/l/rX
    srsly? over a god damn word.
    It's just an image problem, don't worry.

    Originally posted by teamPRO


    howbout suck my black kettle...

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    lol

    But it's a religion of peace guyse!!!

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    Originally posted by pyroza
    God = Allah = Yahweh

    They're the same damn god...

    Thats what I dont get

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    So is there something about the muslim religion that makes them take offense so easily and take radical actions (as compared to other religions)? It seems every week there is a story about muslims getting offended.

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    Originally posted by nobb
    So is there something about the muslim religion that makes them take offense so easily and take radical actions (as compared to other religions)? It seems every week there is a story about muslims getting offended.
    It sure seems like it. It's constant and I've stopped caring what they're mad about, and am simply amazed at what they do in retaliation. It's like watching kids fight.

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    Why is it that it seems like Muslims around the world, different countries, different races, tend to strike outward violently at whatever may be the offence of the day? I'm really surprised this is coming out of Malaysia, that's a completely different culture and history than the brown skinned middle eastern type of terrorist the general public has an image of. Islam is a common connection here, is there more?

    Are Buddhists, and Hindus, and Sikhs, and Christians doing exactly the same terrorist like hateful violence, but it's just not getting reported on? Could there be an information curtain that's shielding the rest of the world to the atrocities of the other religions? Or does the common ideology some suspect about Islam have merit?

    Obviously some religious leaders in all parts of the world are expressing that striking out in the name of Islam is alright. Islam is above the law. The Qur'an is ultimately the law. Do what you must to smite those who offend or oppose the will of Allah, The Most Beneficent, Most Merciful. Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, up until something doesn't sit well with them, then it's Allah's will and the rest be damned?

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    It's a serious question, I really dont understand islam. Maybe we need a muslim's view on their own religion and why it is so? Of course I doubt that would ever happen...it's like opening criticizing your own mother's faults publicly. The argument would always be "oh but they are extremists, you cant paint us all with the same brush."

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    Default Re: Malaysian Christians fearful as church attacks rise

    Originally posted by DRKM
    Its getting harder to sympathize with the moderates...
    You forgot to explain this part, all you did was link to a news article.

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