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    Default Alberta out of province inspection guide

    Thought I would help answer some of your questions regarding the OPI and this should make things easy.

    for the first time the manual is available in PDF form to everyone.


    out of province and salvage inspection

    the out of province inspection and pass/fail guidelines start on page 37.(in the PDF form) unsure what page when printed out- don't print it, I did and it is over 100 pages single sided and a waste of paper and ink

    if you decide to look through it all it also contains the information required for salvage, rebuilt, and kit cars.

    any specific questions feel free to ask me, but also understand there are many points left to the technicians discretion.

    For any car that fails the shop can, but is not required to: fax a copy of the fail report to the transportaion department. this is something that is only done if the car is very unsafe to be driven or it is suspected you know a guy that for a case of beer or cash will let these things slide.

    Also A shop cannot get in trouble for failing something that the technician that inspected feels should fail, but legaly does not, and another technician passes it there is no penalty for that.

    but on the other hand the penalty for passing a car that should fail is loos of license and tens of thousands in fines, as well as the shop can be fined as well as the tech.

    If forget to respond to any questions here feel free to PM me.
    Last edited by 88jbody; 01-12-2010 at 08:01 PM.

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    The inspection process on an out of province car.

    First you need to take bill of sale and/or current registration and valid insurance to the registry and Pay for a request for inspection form.

    You then take this form and your car to a inspection facility the shop will keep the form.

    if your car passes you get a pass certificate and you take your insurance, bill of sale/registration and pass cert and go get your car registered.

    if the car fails and you choose to have the car repaired by that shop, the shop will fill out the pass cert after they complete the repairs needed.

    if the car fails and you are going to repair yourself, or take to another shop to get repaired you have 10 days to return to the shop and at a cost they will inspect the failed items only, and then pass it if repaired to what they feel is a pass.

    if you exceed the 10 days a complete new request form is needed and you start at the begining again.

    after you recieve your pass certificate you have 10 days to register your car of it expires and you start over again from step 1.

    note: one of the 2 things I said expire in 10 days is actually 14 days but I could not recall which one so I left them both as 10 days to error on the side of caution and avoid pissing anyone off unintentionally

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    Thanks for the link, it was very informative

    For the hell of it I kept track of all my failures in the cars I build. Haha, this is awesome

    - odometer can be tampered with (via digidash software)
    - weather stripping is missing
    - no rearview mirror
    - no right-hand mirror
    - no left-hand mirror
    - d/s sun visor does not exist
    - horn does not exist
    - seat is questionable installed
    - seatbelts are not DOT/TC approved
    - no windshield wipers/washer
    - no parking brake (hydraulic rear line lock only)
    - no neutral safety switch
    - windshield is not DOT/TC/as-1/as-10/as-14 approved
    - No daytime running lights
    - no high mount brake light
    - front lights are not aligned (one is 2x as bright as the other <too lazy to change> and both are pointing all over the place <lights are unimportant...just don't drive in the dark>)
    - no front side lights
    - no front side reflectors
    - no rear side reflectors
    - no rear side lamps
    - no license plate lamp
    - no front bumper
    - no rear bumper
    - no hood prop/struts do not exist
    - hood latch mechanism does not function as designed
    - tire extends beyond body and is not covered by flap/flare
    - non-OEM wheel spacers installed
    - bumper impact absorbers are missing (aka no bumpers from above)
    - exhaust system leaks (slip fit headers always will leak)



    And TC says kit car builders try to sneak unsafe vehicles on the road! BAH!

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    The Right Price Auto (out of province inspections mechanical repairs.) is fair we are only concerned with actual safety issues not your bank account. give us a call 403-248-8830 located at 5101 20 ave SE Calgary AB t2b0b1
    Last edited by PAUL LOCK; 01-16-2010 at 06:29 AM.
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    Originally posted by 2EFNFAST
    Thanks for the link, it was very informative

    For the hell of it I kept track of all my failures in the cars I build. Haha, this is awesome

    - odometer can be tampered with (via digidash software)
    - weather stripping is missing
    - no rearview mirror
    - no right-hand mirror
    - no left-hand mirror
    - d/s sun visor does not exist
    - horn does not exist
    - seat is questionable installed
    - seatbelts are not DOT/TC approved
    - no windshield wipers/washer
    - no parking brake (hydraulic rear line lock only)
    - no neutral safety switch
    - windshield is not DOT/TC/as-1/as-10/as-14 approved
    - No daytime running lights
    - no high mount brake light
    - front lights are not aligned (one is 2x as bright as the other &lt;too lazy to change&gt; and both are pointing all over the place &lt;lights are unimportant...just don't drive in the dark&gt
    - no front side lights
    - no front side reflectors
    - no rear side reflectors
    - no rear side lamps
    - no license plate lamp
    - no front bumper
    - no rear bumper
    - no hood prop/struts do not exist
    - hood latch mechanism does not function as designed
    - tire extends beyond body and is not covered by flap/flare
    - non-OEM wheel spacers installed
    - bumper impact absorbers are missing (aka no bumpers from above)
    - exhaust system leaks (slip fit headers always will leak)



    And TC says kit car builders try to sneak unsafe vehicles on the road! BAH!
    some of those things don't matter on kit cars or older cars

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    Sorry about the bad link i edited it to our web page but it needs some work as well.
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    Default Catalytic Converter

    The document reads:

    Reject if

    "The exhaust system is not OEM or equivalent.

    Note: There is no requirement to maintain the catalytic converters."

    So according to the above statement an aftermarket exhaust = not OEM, and therefore would be rejected.

    Is this the case?

    An aftermarket exhaust with no cats...will that pass?

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    Default Re: Catalytic Converter

    Originally posted by ZKing
    The document reads:

    Reject if

    &quot;The exhaust system is not OEM or equivalent.

    Note: There is no requirement to maintain the catalytic converters.&quot;

    So according to the above statement an aftermarket exhaust = not OEM, and therefore would be rejected.

    Is this the case?

    An aftermarket exhaust with no cats...will that pass?
    welcome to the massive grey area of opi. alot of it is up to the tech. if your exhaust is totaly butchered all fail it, but if its well put together or a good kit all pass it. it allso depends on what year the car is, if its a 1987 with no cat thats not a big deal. but if its a 2000 with no cat, thats a bit different. alot of people talk about the "guy" you slip some extra bucks to and he passes your car, there comming less and less commen. i personally know some one that lost his mechanics licenses due to this.
    thats bullshit, the manual is free online, but the tech still has to buy it.

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    Lots of pressure to pass inspections as well, with tons of bait cars floating around we have to be careful.

    It's not saying that the car can have no cats, its saying if the car has a worn cat (P0420) it can still pass as long as its not leaking.

    Its grey. I'd pass a car with a secure exhaust with no leaks and no contact with the body/suspension. If they remove the cat, I see no reason for it to fail a safety inspection.

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    Originally posted by 88jbody


    some of those things don't matter on kit cars or older cars
    Bringing this up from the dead, 88, how does it work with older 60's cars that never had a passenger mirror or other things that per the inspection rules they say have to be there?
    Seems to make importing a classic from another province impossible.
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    sorry to bring this from the dead aswell..

    i have purchased a used vehicle from a dealership, 6 weeks ago, car orig bc car(oop done). Vehicle has a separate parking brake caliper, and the pad failed on the parking brake caliper. Dealer agreed to tow it in on their dime and repair if no foul play involved.

    Now knowingly since its a dealership, i imagine they are going to try and stiff me with the bill. What is the legal amount of time if something was to fail on a component that was marked as good? i know it mentions, 120 days, but vague on responsibilities of the selling party.

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