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    Toyota officials claimed they saved the company $100 million by successfully negotiating with the government on a limited recall of floor mats in some Toyota and Lexus vehicles, according to new documents shared with congressional investigators

    Toyota, in an internal presentation in July 2009 at its Washington office, said it saved $100 million or more by negotiating an "equipment recall" of floor mats involving 55,000 Toyota Camry and Lexus ES350 vehicles in September 2007.

    The savings are listed under the title, "Wins for Toyota Safety Group." The document cites millions of dollars in other savings by delaying safety regulations, avoiding defect investigations and slowing down other industry requirements.
    http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/201...l-savings.html

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    I just saw a commercial the other day saying " we want you to trust us, that's why we stopped production and sales etc. etc."

    Liars.

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    Ummm... hate to break it to you guys but every automotive company out there puts profits ahead of safety. Sad but true.
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    Toyota's stock still hasnt really changed.... due to this

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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
    Ummm... hate to break it to you guys but every automotive company out there puts profits ahead of safety. Sad but true.
    I think most large companies are like that

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    the US "probes" are just trying to screw with the asian manufacturers. this was cute at first but now its just getting annoying

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    Originally posted by Sil80_D
    the US "probes" are just trying to screw with the asian manufacturers. this was cute at first but now its just getting annoying
    toyota is more north american than ford.
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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
    Ummm... hate to break it to you guys but every automotive company out there puts profits ahead of safety. Sad but true.
    Indeed. Quote from "Fight Club" (yes, I know it is just a movie, but I bet this is true)

    "I'm a recall coordinator. My job was to apply the formula. It's simple arithmetic. It's a story problem. A new car built by my company leaves Boston traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now: Do we initiate a recall? You take the number of vehicles in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply the result by the average out-of-court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."

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    Originally posted by Sil80_D
    the US "probes" are just trying to screw with the asian manufacturers. this was cute at first but now its just getting annoying
    i think theres some bitterness because of Japans import tariffs on American cars

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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
    Ummm... hate to break it to you guys but every automotive company out there puts profits ahead of safety. Sad but true.
    Yes, but Toyota got caught! haha
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    Originally posted by benyl


    Yes, but Toyota got caught! haha
    Haha yep pretty much, the publics expectations on Toyota are also much higher. If this was Ford or MB it wouldn't even make the news.

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    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
    If this was Ford or MB it wouldn't even make the news.
    yeah, cause Ford's never had highly publicized recall
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    "Secured Tacoma, Scion XB, Corolla, '10 Prius Top Safety Picks' at IIHS"

    i wonder if that means bribes lol

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    Originally posted by Eleanor
    yeah, cause Ford's never had highly publicized recall
    Sorry bad example.

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    Originally posted by Eleanor
    yeah, cause Ford's never had highly publicized recall
    Off the top of my head:

    Ford:
    Exploding Pintos
    Ignition fires
    Rolling Exploder Firestone tires

    Mercedes:
    2 million E-class and CLS-class cars recalled for faulty brake software in 2005


    Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

    Sorry bad example.
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    Originally posted by Eleanor
    yeah, cause Ford's never had highly publicized recall
    cuz when some thing happens in a ford its either the junkyard or part it out

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    Originally posted by benyl

    Lesson learnt here:

    Just because you didn't get caught, don't list it as accomplishments.



    Originally posted by Sil80_D
    the US "probes" are just trying to screw with the asian manufacturers. this was cute at first but now its just getting annoying
    For sure. I notice the discounts on Toyota's are crazy like American cars now.
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    Originally posted by Sil80_D
    "Secured Tacoma, Scion XB, Corolla, '10 Prius Top Safety Picks' at IIHS"

    i wonder if that means bribes lol

    LOL, new allegations incoming
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    Originally posted by Zewind



    LOL, new allegations incoming
    Also, that page also hinted at money saved by delaying NCAP. That sure shows safety initiatives.

    "equipment", "defect" in quotes has me lol.

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