Shaw Fibre-to-the-Home (FTTH) Trial

[kenny]

Yeah my house has that fat cable line as well. I thought it was Shaw's coax line until Shaw came in to hook up my internet and phone. Line is still dangling there untouched.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by hampstor


It was a fat cable that was cut on the end - you could see the fibre strands.

Logical for Telus as DSL has a tech limit. Telus need fiber to home to compete. Especially if they want to play in the entertainment space.

Telus TV is being choked by crappy DSL lines.

[thetransporter]

Originally posted by hampstor
Telus ran fibre into my house when it was built - when I asked them what it was for, they simply said 'future capability'... here's for hoping that this will be a reasonably priced service!

pics!!

[wtf im nameless]

Originally posted by hampstor
Telus ran fibre into my house when it was built - when I asked them what it was for, they simply said 'future capability'... here's for hoping that this will be a reasonably priced service!

Do you live in Auburn Bay? I have fiber run into my house as well.

Just so you know you can now activate the line by calling Telus but they lowered the speed of it. During the trials I heard from some people in the area that they were doing 100Mbps both Up and Down.. but now that their fiber service is live they're only doing 25 down and 1 up... I was so excited to make the switch from Shaw and go fiber but between them telling me it was only 1Mbps upload and Shaw giving me a way better deal to not cancel I stayed with Shaw.

[eblend]

I got a telus fiber cable in my place as well. It is a fat flat cable with standard telephone lines in it, along with a fiber line. Just dangeling there doing nothing since I don't use telus for phone service

[hampstor]

the telus guy kept trying to get me to go with high speed turbo (15mbit down / 1 up) over copper. I kept saying Auburn bay has fiber to the home and he finally clued in I wanted ftth.

He said it's not offered in my community yet and to expect ~25mbit down / 1 up for less than $50/mnth. No timeline on when it'll be active in my community.

Those speeds are lame. I was looking at novus (in vancouver) which i was told is a FTTH provider:

20 down/ 10 up for $32.50/month
40 down / 10 up for $82.95/month

[GoChris]

That's too bad they can't light it up yet. I'm moving to a new house in Cranston in April but will probably just get Shaw internet again. Shaw is ok, but I'd rather have FTTH for TV and everything. 25Mb/s up, 1Mb/s down...no better than Shaw so what's the point.

[kenny]

Verizon's fiber internet pricing:

$55 - 15 down / 5 up
$70 - 25 / 25
$145 - 50 / 20

Gets even cheaper when bundled with TV or Phone service.

[Grogador]

I can't believe I'm about to recommend Telus.. but.. everyone who has the pipe should sign up for it! It will be quicker, steadier, more reliable than DSL and it will show Telus that there is interest in it. That may finally provide some motivation for further rollout, service expansion and eventually heated competition with Shaw. Just watch out for contracts.

[rage2]

Telus needs to beef up their connections to the backbones before they even think of rolling out any fibre. Sure you may have a gigabit connection to Telus, but when it hits the internet, you get shit performance because of how saturated Telus's network is.

[Lagerstatten.ca]

So what would be your recommendation then for internet at home then? I'm moving into my place out in Chestermere sometime in March and have yet to decide who to go with.

Currently I'm with SHAW and their service has been great for me in Applewood.

Shaw - good/reliable
Telus - slow/reliable (during the time I had it)
3web/CIA - same as shaw but cheaper...

Anyone with 3web/CIA experience want to chime in on their level of service recently (past year)?

Thanks!

[wtf im nameless]

Originally posted by hampstor
the telus guy kept trying to get me to go with high speed turbo (15mbit down / 1 up) over copper. I kept saying Auburn bay has fiber to the home and he finally clued in I wanted ftth.

He said it's not offered in my community yet and to expect ~25mbit down / 1 up for less than $50/mnth. No timeline on when it'll be active in my community.

Those speeds are lame. I was looking at novus (in vancouver) which i was told is a FTTH provider:

20 down/ 10 up for $32.50/month
40 down / 10 up for $82.95/month

How long ago was that? They've told me for over a year that I could not get fiber so I just gave up. Once my Shaw promo's expired, I just called Telus to find out what their current promo was, so that I could bargain Shaw down to their promo pricing again... When I talked to the rep at Telus he told me that my account had a special flag on it and he had to put me through to a different department that handles these new flagged accounts. When I talked to the other department they told me that my fiber line was now up and running and that if I wanted to, I could sign up for their new high speed. This was 3-4 weeks ago... The first guy I spoke with give me the impression that his department cannot offer or even do anything with FTTH, it has to go through this other department.

[r3ccOs]

Nobody "needs" fiber to the house, however the inception of this will allow for more than just internet connectivity...

First off, the connecivity will present itself as fiber to the home -> to the CO, not directly to the "Internet"

As such, I'm certain that there will be packages available for internet bandwidth, but there will hopefully be other offerings as well.

There are security benefits
With multimode fiber, it has far better attenuation and much better overall signal to the CO
It is likely that you could even scale from 100mb to gigabit connectivity, again to the CO

The real tangable benefits "I" think outside of just content downloading, are for server based computing solutions that just haven't yet come to realization. You can service numerous thinclient devices from a household on a subscription service.
Other things, such as providing NAS like storage solutions, or even direct Fiber Channel connectivity to SAN like & replication services.
REAL home-office solutions utializing MPLS mesh solutions, as opposed to client based IPSEC/SSL VPN.

We'll have to wait to see what will eventually be packaged going forward

[r3ccOs]

Originally posted by rage2
Telus needs to beef up their connections to the backbones before they even think of rolling out any fibre. Sure you may have a gigabit connection to Telus, but when it hits the internet, you get shit performance because of how saturated Telus's network is.

Oh... its not that Telus's network is that saturated, its just how much they limit residental connecvity to their portion of the Metronet backbone. Believe me, they have more than infrastruture to spare...

[rage2]

Originally posted by r3ccOs
Oh... its not that Telus's network is that saturated, its just how much they limit residental connecvity to their portion of the Metronet backbone. Believe me, they have more than infrastruture to spare...

This is not true. Ask anyone that's purchased business co-location packages with Telus. The network performance is brutal.

[Grogador]

Originally posted by r3ccOs
Nobody "needs" fiber to the house, however the inception of this will allow for more than just internet connectivity...

First off, the connecivity will present itself as fiber to the home -> to the CO, not directly to the "Internet"

As such, I'm certain that there will be packages available for internet bandwidth, but there will hopefully be other offerings as well.

There are security benefits
With multimode fiber, it has far better attenuation and much better overall signal to the CO
It is likely that you could even scale from 100mb to gigabit connectivity, again to the CO

The real tangable benefits "I" think outside of just content downloading, are for server based computing solutions that just haven't yet come to realization. You can service numerous thinclient devices from a household on a subscription service.
Other things, such as providing NAS like storage solutions, or even direct Fiber Channel connectivity to SAN like & replication services.
REAL home-office solutions utializing MPLS mesh solutions, as opposed to client based IPSEC/SSL VPN.

We'll have to wait to see what will eventually be packaged going forward

...I think what he's getting at is: more porn for all!!

Originally posted by rage2

This is not true. Ask anyone that's purchased business co-location packages with Telus. The network performance is brutal.

We used to, I recall it was muy expensivo... as in, cheaper to do ourselves in the new building, courtesy of BigPipe and backups.

[Zhariak]

Those pictures on the first page of the fiber to curb installation are from the US carrier offering FiOS...


OMG, I'm building teh datacenterzzz in my basementz!!!!

The sea hamsters will never be able to get me!

[r3ccOs]

Originally posted by Grogador


...I think what he's getting at is: more porn for all!!



We used to, I recall it was muy expensivo... as in, cheaper to do ourselves in the new building, courtesy of BigPipe and backups.

We do, we have 30 meg dual path connection to the metronet backbone, scaled down from 100meg for our Co-managed/Co-Lo space... not a problem at all for services ranging from websites, api connectivity (mq/tibco etc.), vpn, site to site replicaiton etc...

[beecue]

Damn it. My friend in Toronto just got 25/7 using fibre from Bell. Price starts at $52.95 depending if you have it bundled, I wish we could get that here.

[ipeefreely]

Originally posted by beecue
Damn it. My friend in Toronto just got 25/7 using fibre from Bell. Price starts at $52.95 depending if you have it bundled, I wish we could get that here.

It's not Fiber... it's Fibe (VDSL/VDSL2)... copper

Marketing by Bell to make people think they have FTTh.

What worse is that they have a 30GB cap!