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    Default Apollo 11 Saturn V Launch - "30 seconds in 8 minutes"

    Good watch for all you space-nerds out there. I had no idea that so much water was pumped allover the pad post-launch..

    This clip is raw from Camera E-8 on the launch umbilical tower/mobile launch program of Apollo 11, July 16, 1969. This is an HD transfer from the 16mm original.

    The camera is running at 500 fps, making the total clip of over 8 minutes represent just 30 seconds of actual time. Narration is provided by Mark Gray (me), Executive Producer for Spacecraft Films.
    http://vimeo.com/4366695?hd=1
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    Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

    There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

    Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

    And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.
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    Well let me rephrase that, I won't really squash all possibilities that I could be real but a lot of things just don't add up. There's tons of people (not crazy loonies although there's probably some way Rob Anders had work with this ) that believe this as well.

    I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you can not rule out the possibility of it being fake.
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    It does seem odd, that not too long ago when they were talking about going back, how it would cost hundreds of millions, if not a billion or more dollars to send someone back to the moon. Makes it seem like it is so much harder to do it now than 40 years ago.

    However, I don't think they could keep a conspiracy that huge a secret for this long.

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    Originally posted by Spoons
    Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

    There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

    Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

    And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.
    I'm thinking maybe my sarcasm detector may be broken? You can't seriously believe it didn't happen, and I think that you provided a ROCK SOLID reason why it wasn't fake- you just have to think about it a little.. The Soviets would have been all over this like white on rice if it was fake. They knew exactly what was going on and never denied that it took place. They were monitoring very closely what was going on.

    Yes, it was a PR stunt against the CCCP, and they did it to pass for the lead in the space race. The moon is a dead world, the only reason to go back would be to learn how to better deal with long-term missions in deep space before we press on to Mars and beyond.

    As for your theory about resources being there, you're right. There are resources there that we could use here on Earth. It's just that on a pound per pound basis it's probably 1000000x easier and cheaper to just get these resources which are still plentiful here, from here. It's like saying that you COULD just go buy tomatoes from the corner store, but you'd rather fly to Zimbabwe to get them. Sure you could do it, but does it make any sense to do it that way?
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    Originally posted by GoChris
    It does seem odd, that not too long ago when they were talking about going back, how it would cost hundreds of millions, if not a billion or more dollars to send someone back to the moon. Makes it seem like it is so much harder to do it now than 40 years ago.

    However, I don't think they could keep a conspiracy that huge a secret for this long.
    EDIT: Reason we don't fly back and forth to the moon every day:

    -It costs A LOT of money
    -There is nothing there, and we have enough rock samples
    -It is better to focus funding for inter-planetary flight in the future
    -etc.
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    Originally posted by Spoons

    I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you can not rule out the possibility of it being fake.
    I can't rule out the possibility that the Sun revolves around the Earth, but the overwhelming majority of evidence, and lack of evidence to support otherwise tells me that this is false.

    There is no evidence that the moon landings were fake.

    There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that the moon landings were real.
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    Again, we can't even manage to successfully launch rockets to this day everytime. Our best insulation at the time was ethspestis (spelling?).

    Like I said I don't completely believe it was fake, and yes there is evidence that it was (and I'm not talking about the photograph bullshit, etc.). Some things just don't add up, so if I was to be logical, I can not rule out that it wasn't fake. Yes it would be a huge conspiracy to cover up, but completely possible to do so.

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    Originally posted by Spoons
    I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you cannot rule out the possibility of it being fake.
    I hope that you just stirring the pot for fun .. I makes me sad to think that you believe otherwise.

    There is physical proof--- 800+ lbs of lunar rocks carried back by the astronauts (only one of which was a scientist.. the rest were military pilots) and the laser reflector left on the surface of the moon ... if you shine a laser at it you get a reflection -you cannot fake either one.

    America was willing to spend a significant proportion on their GDP on beating the Soviets after getting embarrassed by a string of "firsts" and for honoring the dream of an assassinated President (Kennedy). Nearly every company and engineer gave deeply of there own time and resources to contribute to this FIRST.

    A friend of mine working (at 2am) in Houston on thermal/radiation profiles for the first landing. He came across a problem where a certain crater and sun angle could cook an astronaut to death before he would feel anything. When the engineers worked out that a detector would add 1 pound to the suit, the detector idea was nixed. Instead they had to work out a list of crater sizes to avoid. This was 1 month before launch of Apollo 11.

    or did he just make that up as part of the dis-information program.
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    I forgot to say thanks for the great post Pollywog, I really enjoyed that video. I watched a few more of the videos on that channel and they're pretty cool too!
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    Originally posted by Spoons
    ethspestis
    Asbestos.

    Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.

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    Anyone who ACTUALLY believes that we didn't land on the moon in the 60s and 70s needs to have their head kicked.

    If someone I knew in person said they ACTUALLY didn't believe we landed on the moon, I would seriously re-examine my friendship with them, because I don't think it's possible for someone to be that dumb.

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    Originally posted by bspot


    Asbestos.

    Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.
    Hahaha. Yup.

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    Originally posted by bspot


    Asbestos.

    Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.
    I said spelling. I had no clue how to spell it. I admitted my error. Funny thing is I had a brake shoe box right next to me at the time... Could of looked on there.

    And yes, stirring the pot for a little fun. Like I said, there are some things in my mind that don't add up... but I won't go to the lengths of saying it was fake. Half the shit I posted I found on some crazy conspiracy theory website. You guys are just way to easy, so I HAD to. The first post was going to be a little serious... like I said, somethings don't add up, but then decided to fuck it. Go big or go home?

    I figured the Rob Anders comment would of tipped you off. 95 seemed to of got the idea.

    I've been to an exploratory where they shot a laser at the moon and saw it's reflection. I'm a firm believer.

    Sorry for the troll, if you want to call it that.
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    Originally posted by Spoons
    Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

    There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

    Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

    And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.



    but anyways, cool footage!

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    Originally posted by Spoons
    Still don't believe it was real.
    Originally posted by Spoons
    Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.
    -> Substantial argument and evidence provided by fellow beyond members <-

    Originally posted by Spoons
    [...]I won't go to the lengths of saying it was fake.
    Originally posted by Spoons
    I've been to an exploratory where they shot a laser at the moon and saw it's reflection. I'm a firm believer.
    Make up your mind. Was it "half-fake" or something?

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    Originally posted by Spoons

    There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.


    "Made in America", when the term actually meant something good. Now it's all Chinese junk electronics, and other lowest bidder items. I can't even say that, even foreign products had better quality back then.

    My grandma's 24" television circa 1960's still works fine and dandy, but a tube TV I bought in 2000, lasted 3 years.

    My families first VCR, made in 1982, worked fine until I through it out 2 years ago. The VCR/DVD combo player I bought in 2007 lasted 13 months, and I only used it once.

    There's something to be said about the hardy electronics from back then. They were built solid. These days, just sneezing on something breaks it.
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