Go vegetarian to save the world: UN

[syeve]

Originally posted by 89coupe



LOL, all that means is everyone else isn't that fast...LOL

Join us anytime

[core_upt]

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[core_upt]

Originally posted by 89coupe
Humans have incisors & canines for a reason, and its not to chew on grains.

yay - that's why our teeth are super sharp and pointy like my dog's teeth, or a cat's teeth, or a bear's teeth and not like a monkey's at all....

Originally posted by 89coupe
Meat tastes good for a reason.
Fish tastes good for a reason.
Poultry tastes good for a reason.

...when it's cooked.

And if doing things just because it 'felt good' was the best reason, our species would be long dead.

[msommers]

Originally posted by core_upt


This actually speaks to the larger problem - food in Canada, and especially in the US is too fucking cheap. The only way to keep $0.39 hamburgers, $0.25 wings and all-you-can-eat fries is to grow it as quick as possible, feed it cheaply and have immigrants cultivate it for nothing. That means cheap feed, heavily fertililer and pesticide use and slave labour.

I'm not saying I have the answers, or that I'm any better (though I don't eat red meat and try to stick with organic chicken), but we collectively need to look at our dinner plates and think if there is a cost greater than the dollars and cents at play.

I couldn't agree more!

Originally posted by 911fever


That's absolutely in your head.

Do I need to post the article about Placebo Effect and knee surgeries...again?

Syeve, thanks for listing those companies. Gonna have to check those out.

I've thought about going vegetarian, just to try it. My love for sushi really fucks with that, and steak. Are vegetarians allowed to eat eggs? The biggest factor is my allergy to nuts, which is a vegetarian's staple to their diet. Being lactose intolerant doesn't help either . Or is that vegans that can't eat cheese? Fuck I just lump them all together lol.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by core_upt


This actually speaks to the larger problem - food in Canada, and especially in the US is too fucking cheap. The only way to keep $0.39 hamburgers, $0.25 wings and all-you-can-eat fries is to grow it as quick as possible, feed it cheaply and have immigrants cultivate it for nothing. That means cheap feed, heavily fertililer and pesticide use and slave labour.

I'm not saying I have the answers, or that I'm any better (though I don't eat red meat and try to stick with organic chicken), but we collectively need to look at our dinner plates and think if there is a cost greater than the dollars and cents at play.

I disagree. I haven't seen a $0.39 hamburger in 20 years. $0.25 wings are expensive, and I never saw all you can eat fries. You're talking about fast food. The rest of us are talking about real food. It appears the average family of 4 spends between 250-400/week for groceries. How exactly would you like to make that more expensive?

Core_upt.. do you still live at home by any chance?

[Tomaz]

Vegitarian... Maybe.

Vegan, fuck no!

I ate vegan for a year and nearly died! (not really, but it felt like it). The Vegan i was living with at the time was becoming more and more sick as time went on. Do you know what cured her???

I cooked her rice with chicken broth, swapped her fake cheese with real. within a week she was feeling great and had more energy than ever. Vegans are idiots.

Commercially bought meats = meh

Local fresh meats = the awesomeness maximus

[ZenOps]

I think you can still get a "White Castle" burger in the US for about 50 cents if you buy them in 30 or 100 burger "Crave" sizes.

Mini burgers never went over well in Canada, but doughnut holes did.

[SKR]

Originally posted by nonlinear
only a small proportion of an animal's energy intake goes into biomass. most of the energy is lost as heat due to metabolism, foraging, mating, blah blah blah. hence, a very large amount of energy is lost between trophic levels (i.e., when an animal eats something).

the implications for humans are simple: far higher population densities can be supported on grains than on animals that eat grains.

regardless of one's political views, AND ignoring all of the other factors that make vegetarianism more sustainable (e.g. amount of water required to process meat, disease spread, feed lot pollution, etc. etc. etc.), it's impossible to deny the fact that more humans can live off of grain than off of grain-fed animals.

that said, i love meat, and will never stop eating it.

This would all be true if it weren't for the fact that cows aren't fed the same grain as humans. There is a difference between feed grain and human consumption grain. That, and we don't eat hay.

As I was kind of saying before, we could turn all the land that we use for feed grains and hay into crops for human consumption. For a lot of that land, there's a reason it's put toward livestock and it would be hard/expensive to change it. We could put in the same time and effort to increase livestock efficiency.

Consider the amount of resources required for seeding, growing and harvesting a crop for people to eat. That takes a lot of work, and two big things that come to mind are pesticides and diesel. If nothing else, cows don't burn any diesel to eat grass, and they don't get upset if there's some buckwheat in their alfalfa. But nobody ever considers that.

[HondaKid]

Originally posted by 89coupe
Humans can't survive without B12. You can't get B12 from any vegetable or grain.

Love it when someone makes a blanket statement, in this day and age, Google first next time.

I was too lazy to Google the truth.

[HondaKid]

We ought to start eating humans, kill so many birds with one good meal. Start with the CEO of BP and work our way down.

[TYMSMNY]

Originally posted by AndyL
Sorry I'm a meatatarian...

Mmmm baconator...

Beef is your favourite animal too?

[HondaKid]

Originally posted by 89coupe
Humans have incisors & canines for a reason, and its not to chew on grains.

True, but when was the last time you chowed down on some raw meat? That is why they are there, and you have lots of teeth cause they went bad real quick and rotted away. Wisdom teeth are like this, not needed today but 6,000 years ago they were sometimes the only teeth useable in your mouth, this is why they come in so late in life. The others were rotted, fell out or were impacted.

You got nipples too, what the fuck you doing with those?

What you doing with your Coccyx? It's OK I will wait while you look it up.

Everything tastes better with bacon.

[Primer_Drift]

Originally posted by HondaKid


Love it when someone makes a blanket statement, in this day and age, Google first next time.

I was too lazy to Google the truth.

From the link you posted..

"Human faeces can contain significant B12"

Congratulations vegans.

[msommers]

Originally posted by HondaKid
We ought to start eating humans, kill so many birds with one good meal. Start with the CEO of BP and work our way down.

What does the CEO have to do with what happened exactly? Was he monitoring all the safety mechanisms and displayed negligence?

Originally posted by Primer_Drift


From the link you posted..

"Human faeces can contain significant B12"

Congratulations vegans.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by HondaKid


Love it when someone makes a blanket statement, in this day and age, Google first next time.

I was too lazy to Google the truth.

LOL, posting from veg society...LOL.

Two of the most essential nutrients, B12 & Omega 3 fatty acids for humans, and the stupid Vegetarians are missing out.

LOL, but they will take supplements that were derived from the product they refuse to eat...LOL

[codetrap]

Originally posted by HondaKid


True, but when was the last time you chowed down on some raw meat? That is why they are there, and you have lots of teeth cause they went bad real quick and rotted away. Wisdom teeth are like this, not needed today but 6,000 years ago they were sometimes the only teeth useable in your mouth, this is why they come in so late in life. The others were rotted, fell out or were impacted.

You got nipples too, what the fuck you doing with those?

What you doing with your Coccyx? It's OK I will wait while you look it up.

Everything tastes better with bacon.

Raw Meat: 2 Nights ago. Sushi!
Nipples: That's personal, but for $500 you can find out.
Coccyx: I personally use it when I sit.

And you can't have a bacon cheeseburger without bacon!

[kvg]

[89coupe]

You veggies should read this.

http://chealth.canoe.ca/channel_heal...&channel_id=12

[syeve]

Is anyone on here actually a vegitarian? I don't claim to be, not even close.

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by syeve
Is anyone on here actually a vegitarian? I don't claim to be, not even close.

no, i think it's more a case of ignorant, finger-pointing rednecks trying to prove their masculinity.