Viper ACR Track Performance Debate

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by Tha_Shot_Caller
I think Rage2 needs to step back and think about what he's writing. He seems like he very angery and is not able to think before he writes. Obviously, if someone is going to be racing their car hard, they will be getting brake upgrades regradless of what car they own, any car being raced somewhat hard would have poor brakes after a few laps. I don't think that is the point of this thread, i thought it was discussing the faster car. Keep it cool rage and don't be a foo!

Umm..no.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Tha_Shot_Caller
I think Rage2 needs to step back and think about what he's writing. He seems like he very angery and is not able to think before he writes. Obviously, if someone is going to be racing their car hard, they will be getting brake upgrades regradless of what car they own, any car being raced somewhat hard would have poor brakes after a few laps. I don't think that is the point of this thread, i thought it was discussing the faster car. Keep it cool rage and don't be a foo!

911 twin turbo works fine with stock brakes.
SLK 320 works fine with stock brakes
SLK 32 works fine with stock brakes.
Viper ACR (American Club Racer) has massive brake fade after a few laps. Why they even call it a "racer" package, I'll never know. You sure the hell can't race an ACR out of the box.

I've already said the Viper is fastest in a straight line (compared to say 911 TT). I was bitching about the handling and braking of the car (the point of this thread). The Vipers can be very fast if upgraded, I've already mentioned that earlier as well.

You should READ before you write.

[Ben]

I think the reason he may have came off as angry to you (i found his posts direct, but hardly angry) is because every time he makes a point, someone misreads it or says something that it not entirely correct, and so he ends up repeating himself over and over on the same issue.

Like it or not, rage is correct on his explanation of the Vipers performance when the runway ends. The viper desimates all on the strip, but loses all its ground on the not so straight.

[Redlyne_mr2]

one of the first thing that many viper owners upgrade is the brakes, as rage stated brake fade and burning out rotors is a common problem with those cars. Althoug it has a 48/52 weight distibution Ive heard that it has soe really strange handlign characteristics, ive also seen countless videos of stock vipers smokign the walls due to brake failure....ive never driven one so i cant make any mroe claims than this..would I buy one..never

[mwmhong]

On an interesting side note, Fear Factor host and UFC spokesperson Joe Rogan chose to buy an Acura NSX over a Dodge Viper because the Viper drove like crap compared to the Acura.

[Stratus_Power]

but NSX soooo out of date! how can they not change the design for like 10 years ;(

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Stratus_Power
but NSX soooo out of date! how can they not change the design for like 10 years ;(

because evenm after 10 years it still looks better than 95% of the cars on the road today.....the viper has basically retained the same style since its release as well....these cars arent shitty little sunfires, they arent produced in huge numbers and dont rely on image transformation in order to generate sales

[Ben]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

because evenm after 10 years it still looks better than 95% of the cars on the road today.....the viper has basically retained the same style since its release....these cars arent shitty little sunfires, they rent produced in huge numbers and dont rely on image transformation in order to generate sales

Word to that buddy, word to that!

[Ben]

Check this out for comparisson.

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...nge_opener.xml


Check out the braking distances. The porsche had 640 feet to stop from 150MPH to 0, and on the stock Discs and pads...almost all the other cars were 700+ and there was a vette at like 880 feet! There was a viuper that was close to the porcshe, but hey, I would expect that when spending 6 large upgrading the wimpy stock brakes... This is what we were saying, vipers are good at getting fast, but bringing them back is HARD!!! And these cars are the best of the best. This is with upgraded brakes for sure. So any talk saying this or that about vipers having wicked brakes is a farce.


And yeah, after reading it, I dont know how the porsche lost out...it excelled in everything but 1 second on the total course time...

[HOK]

Originally posted by Stratus_Power
but NSX soooo out of date! how can they not change the design for like 10 years ;(

dudes the NSX has changed... its all new and better too... NSX -R dynamic balancing... a matter a fact saw one today... WHITE! niceee

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by rage2


911 twin turbo works fine with stock brakes.
SLK 320 works fine with stock brakes
SLK 32 works fine with stock brakes.
Viper ACR (American Club Racer) has massive brake fade after a few laps. Why they even call it a "racer" package, I'll never know. You sure the hell can't race an ACR out of the box.

I've already said the Viper is fastest in a straight line (compared to say 911 TT). I was bitching about the handling and braking of the car (the point of this thread). The Vipers can be very fast if upgraded, I've already mentioned that earlier as well.

You should READ before you write.

Well the point of this thread was the looks of the vipers, not their handling characteristics, shitty or otherwise, you changed the subject by bitching. Not that i'm keeping track or anything... lol

[rage2]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T
Well the point of this thread was the looks of the vipers, not their handling characteristics, shitty or otherwise, you changed the subject by bitching. Not that i'm keeping track or anything... lol

lol bastard! Since we're keeping score, the thread started out as viper acr looks, someone pointed out that it was small, I said it was big and handles like crap, then a few people said how awesome the viper handles, and the discussion focused on the track abilities of the Viper. Time to split the thread...

[jonny]

Originally posted by Benny
Check this out for comparisson.

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...nge_opener.xml


Check out the braking distances. The porsche had 640 feet to stop from 150MPH to 0, and on the stock Discs and pads...almost all the other cars were 700+ and there was a vette at like 880 feet! There was a viuper that was close to the porcshe, but hey, I would expect that when spending 6 large upgrading the wimpy stock brakes... This is what we were saying, vipers are good at getting fast, but bringing them back is HARD!!! And these cars are the best of the best. This is with upgraded brakes for sure. So any talk saying this or that about vipers having wicked brakes is a farce.


And yeah, after reading it, I dont know how the porsche lost out...it excelled in everything but 1 second on the total course time...

I dont know who was contesting the brake quality on the viper. I certainly wasnt.

[Ben]

Originally posted by jonny


I dont know who was contesting the brake quality on the viper. I certainly wasnt.

Quality of the brakes is a direct corrilation to its ability to enter a corner later and hense allow for quicker lap times. If you can late brake, thats going to save you time, but if you have to start braking half way down the strait, that would suck.

[jonny]

And?

[Ben]

There are still people out there who think Vipers are wicked top knotch in every aspect, this just shows some clarification.

[jonny]

Oh ok. I thought it was directed at me for some reason.

[kenny]

Originally posted by Benny


Quality of the brakes is a direct corrilation to its ability to enter a corner later and hense allow for quicker lap times. If you can late brake, thats going to save you time, but if you have to start braking half way down the strait, that would suck.

Ask any racer, any real racer, its all about exit speed, not entrance speed.

[HOK]

this is what you get for putting a truck engine in a car lol...

[5.9 R/T]

Actually it's a car engine, that was put in the truck.