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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz View Post
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    If those specs are true they'll have to price it really high or D5 sales would disappear overnight.

    Maybe Nikon's feeling the pressure from Sony and has realized they should just be releasing the best camera's they can and not purposely crippling performance to prop up other models in their lineup like Canon seems to do.
    I'm guessing $4499-$4799 CAD, somewhere in there. I feel like they will want to stay under the $5K mark. Exchange rate has improved considerably as well, but we might not see that up front (only on the "add to cart" prices). If it does come in around that price, the 5DM4 at $4500 will be even more outrageous.

    That has pretty much always been what Nikon does. They have never been afraid to release cannibalizing bodies, for better or worse. The D800 made the D3X irrelevant at 1/3 the price, The D300 made the D2Xs worthless, the D700 with a grip was almost identical to the D3, The D750 replaced the D3s for a lot of people at half the price, etc. They released the D500 which does most of what the D5 does (albeit with a crop sensor) for 1/3 the price even down to the last details, like the dedicated AF processor. Even their $500 models have features only found on Canon's 1-series. They put similar quality sensors in their $400 cameras as they do their $2000 cameras. They stick to things like AF, FPS, and the "pro" control layout to differentiate their lineups rather than crippling every little tiny thing. They even use similar build quality (partial magnesium skeleton with carbon fiber reinforced thermoplastic for the front/mirrorbox) on all their bodies from the D7XXX and up.

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    Very excited for this body, read somewhere that the grip for the 810/800 won't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eride View Post
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    Very excited for this body, read somewhere that the grip for the 810/800 won't work.
    Grips rarely work between significant model changes, accessories like that are an unfortunate part of the money making process for camera manufacturers - especially now when they are all trying to cut costs. Also, this is quite a significant body change from the D810, it is not surprising that they will have an all-new grip to match it. With grip you will probaby be looking at ~$5K though unless you go third party The D500 grip is $600!

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    I think the only grip that worked on 2 different bodies was the one for the D700/D300 and it was $250

    You have to factor in costs for XQD cars and readers as well, so another few hundred on top for most users.

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    Entire D850 presentation has leaked. This is what I've been able to gather from it:

    46MP
    7 FPS, 9 FPS with grip (full frame). Crop mode FPS unknown, could be 10 FPS as per previous rumors.
    Fully Electronic shutter (in addition to mechanical) (6 FPS silent shooting, 30 FPS shooting @ 8MP (4K))
    51 shot buffer with 14bit RAW (uncompressed)
    ISO 64-25,600 native (32 - 108,400 expandable)
    Same AF as D5 (153pt, -4.0EV sensitivity in center, all other points -3.0EV)
    Same meter as D5 (180K pixel RGB)
    Touch screen, back illuminated buttons, etc.
    Larger 0.75x viewfinder
    SD + XQD
    No AA filter
    4K video with full sensor readout and no crop
    8K timelapse
    Expeed 5
    Automated focus stacking/bracketing up to 300 images @ 5FPS. Software needed for stacking.
    Auto AF fine tune
    New "spot area" AF giving double the precision as a normal AF point for macro
    New mirror and shutter for even less vibration (hopefully it's as quiet as the D810, but it may not be since it's built for 9FPS)
    New grip (MBD18a) and battery
    Expect mid-high $3K USD price

    The only surprises here are:
    - 9 FPS full frame
    - Focus bracketing
    - Electronic shutter
    - New viewfinder
    Last edited by Mitsu3000gt; 08-14-2017 at 09:27 AM.

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    Detailed spec-list - official announcement could be as early as tomorrow (Wednesday in Japan), and Nikon has 3 or 4 events scheduled in various countries between August 16th and October.

    45.75MP full frame CMOS sensor
    New and improved version of SnapBridge
    No built-in GPS
    Tiltable LCD (3.2", 2.36 million dots)
    Fully functional touchscreen: supports touch AF, touch shutter and touch menu
    Memory card slots: one SD and one XQD
    AF system from the D5 (153 points, 130% frame coverage compared to the D810, all AF points @ -3EV, middle/center crosshair sensor @-4EV)
    New smaller AF point
    No built-in flash
    Back illuminated buttons
    Joystick selector
    Built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi
    8K time-lapse video capabilities
    4k UHD video in FX format (with no crop)
    No EVF or hybrid viewfinder
    Slo-mo full HD 120fps video
    The SD slot will support UHS-II
    Improved LiveView split-screen display
    Improved silent shooting mode: fully-silent, no-sound electronic shutter in live view (6 fps silent shooting, no mechanical movement, can shoot up to 30fps @ 8MP with the electronic shutter)
    Improved battery life
    Lighter than the D810
    Native ISO range: 64-25,600
    ISO 64 extendable down to ISO 32 (Lo1 = 32, Hi 2 = 108,400)
    7fps without grip, 9fps with grip (MB-D18a battery grip and the EN-EL18a battery)
    51 images raw buffer at 14-bit RAW
    0.75x optical viewfinder (largest ever on a Nikon FX cameras)
    180k RGB meter
    No AA filter
    Supports for Nikon wireless transmitter WT-7
    Built-in focus stacking: up to 300 pictures with up to 10 levels of focusing steps (still need external software)
    Price will be CNY 23,999 or around $3,600 (source: Chinese forum)
    Announcement date could be August 16th
    RAW sizes: small, medium, large
    New 1:1 mode
    New natural light AWB

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    Yeah saw this all on Nikon Rumours.

    For some reason this hasn't got me that excited to leave my D810. The higher fps is nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    Yeah saw this all on Nikon Rumours.

    For some reason this hasn't got me that excited to leave my D810. The higher fps is nice.
    If you upgraded from the D800 --> D810, I bet you will eventually cave

    Personally I will upgrade just for the CAM20K AF - that's mostly what I want, so the rest is gravy. The full frame FPS is the biggest surprise, since Nikon could have saved 9FPS for the next iteration given that the competition is nowhere near that until at least 2020. The camera is basically a one stop shop for wildlife and landscapes, with all supporting features. It can also replace the D500, so anyone who owns both the D810 and D500 can move into a single body if they want (this is also good for me as I was considering buying a high FPS DX compliment). I couldn't care less about the video features but it is a pretty big upgrade there too for those who use it.

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    My biggest complaints of the d800 were AF and craptastic live view which the 810 fixed. For my needs, I just don't see $2000 more camera I want or need. It's nice not having itchy feet. $4500+tax is a pretty darn high entry point.
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    Here is the leaked Nikon D850 press release (Google translation):


    August 24, 2017 - Nikon is pleased to present the new Nikon D850 digital SLR, perfect combination of resolution, speed and light sensitivity. From studio photography to sports, to reportage in the most remote places on the planet, the new full-frame DSLR in Nikon FX format not only delivers high performance, but brings photo excellence to a whole new level.

    Whether it's naturalistic, sporting, commercial, wedding, fashion photography, whether it's shooting movies, the D850 offers photographers who work in highly competitive fields the creative flexibility needed to excel. The fast, 45.7-megapixel FX high-resolution FX sensor is built with the "gapless on-chip" microlent technology that, together with the benefits of CMOS backlight, delivers exceptional detail sharpness along with an incredible dynamic range. The shooting speed of 7 fps can go up to 9 fps by adopting the optional MB-D18 multi power battery pack. Video-makers can then record full-size movies in 4K without clipping factor crops: this increases the chances when looking for extended field corners to resume with NIKKOR prime lens lenses. Additionally, you can record timelapse of 4K accelerated movies directly on "camera".
    The other new features that allow maximum flexibility include capturing RAW format in three different sizes: large, medium or small; The silent Photography mode, which makes it possible to shoot ultra-sharp, high-resolution images without the sound / mechanical shutter noise; The AF Pinpoint mode, available in Live View, allows you to make the auto focus more accurate and selective as required, for example, in the case of macro photography.
    In addition, the Nikon D850 is the first digital reflex of all time to offer "on-camera" focus-stacking mode, which allows you to shoot a series of shots sequentially of the same shot but with the focus plane Motorized in displacement. This mode is particularly useful in macro photography, when the close distance of the subject narrows the depth of field to a few millimeters but also for artistic representations of naturalistic scenarios to enhance the extreme depth of field.

    Nikon says: "The D850 offers such incredible versatility to give you the impression of working with three cameras in one. Megapixels, file size, speed, ISO ... in every field, you can be assured that the Nikon D850 excels! It's a really smart investment for photographers who want to enhance their skills and express themselves without compromise. "

    Summary of main functions:

    Resolution: 45.7 megapixels of effective resolution. 45.4 MP files rich in detail. CMOS backlit sensor in full Nikon FX format and without low-pass optical filter.
    Speeds: 7 fps or 9 fps when using the optional MB-D18 multi-power battery pack (with the EN-EL18B battery inserted).
    ISO Sensitivity in Light: The powerful Nikon EXPEED 5 image processor delivers outstandingly sharp images in the ISO 64-25.600 range, expandable from 32 to 102.400 ISO (equivalent). The full ISO range is also available for 4K video shooting.
    Accuracy: The same phenomenal 153-point Autofocus system of the Nikon D5 top range provides sensitivity up to -4EV at the center point (ISO 100, 20 ° C). Exposure measurement up to -3EV allows precise exposure even under conditions where the only source of light is lunar.
    4K video with no clipping factor: Record full-size movies at 4K / UHD at 30p, without clipping factor limitations. Snap for over three hours using the MB-D18 multi-power battery pack.
    Accelerated time-lapse movies in 4K directly "on the camera" but not only: in addition, the Nikon D850 uses its 45.7 megapixels to create fast and spectacular 8K post-production movies.
    RAW format flexibility: Snaps into 45.4 MP RAW format (large size), 25.6 MP (average size), or 11.4 MP (small size).
    In every room: thanks to its rugged body and ready to handle all weather conditions, the Nikon D850 is ready to resume in any kind of extreme environment. The same full-blinking light on the Nikon D5 guarantees ease of use even in the middle of the night.
    Quick Store: The two-card slot drive allows you to use a SD UHS-II and an XQD for quick file save.



    Read more: https://nikonrumors.com/2017/08/22/n...#ixzz4qWAkvxbJ
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    I saw it on B&H early this AM for $3296 USD before the pulled it. Cheaper than most expected I think (I would have guessed $3499 USD), and cheaper than a 5DM4. That puts it at $4150 or $4199 CAD if Nikon isn't going to bone us with an out dated FX rate.

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    Everything official now, no surprises left but at least it's out haha.

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    D850 is $4299 CAD...

    Grip is $530...
    Last edited by msommers; 08-24-2017 at 12:42 AM.
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    Guess I'll be out $4830 lol

    still waiting to see first hand results showing dynamic range...the sample shots look really good, but until it gets torn apart by the internet I'm not 100% convinced. :P
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    Canon is looking dusty as hell after the a9 and this, espescially with the 6d2 leaving a poor taste in people's mouths
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    D850 is $4299 CAD...

    Grip is $530...
    Significantly cheaper than expected, this is good news. FX rate still stings though. They also used an inflated exchange rate, so watch for MAP sales.


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    Canon is looking dusty as hell after the a9 and this, espescially with the 6d2 leaving a poor taste in people's mouths
    The problem for them, but more so Canon's customers, is that the 5D4 and 6DII aren't going to get updated until 2020 and 2022 respectively, and they haven't even fully caught up to 2012-2014 competition. Especially in the case of the 6DII it's actually worse than the original 6D in important areas including image quality, video quality and AF point coverage which was already small to begin with. The 5DS/R was already dated when it was announced, and never sold very well for Canon - not sure if there will be a follow up. Canon uses the Apple business model though, and will still get boatloads of sales from people tied down to lens investments, so they don't care. It's actually rather good for business, just bad for the customers.

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    MSRP is $4,399 but that price is from TCS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    MSRP is $4,399 but that price is from TCS.
    Several places have it "on sale" already for $4299, even the ultimate rip-off specialists Vistek. Possibly due to exchange rate variances. It's $168 more expensive here than it is from the USA, but that's not a bad premium for double the warranty. I won't be surprised to see grip deals in November either, almost makes me want to wait a little bit.

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    Picked up my 850 today, I'll post up a few thoughts on it in the next day or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eride View Post
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    Picked up my 850 today, I'll post up a few thoughts on it in the next day or two.
    I was able to try one out today for a while - the camera is phenomenal, exceeded mine and I think most people's expectations by a good margin. You're going to love it. I put my name on the preorder list but I probably won't get one for a month or so as Nikon is selling every one they can make at the moment. Once NPS allocations are done, hopefully they become a bit more available. There's another big shipment coming to North America around the 15th but I don't know what allocations will be like.

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