Kal Tire - Nokians - extra charges?

[Jeff Lange]

You have to balance tires every time. That is not something you can avoid.

Jeff

[KRyn]

Originally posted by Jeff Lange
You have to balance tires every time. That is not something you can avoid.

Jeff

Did you even read what has been said in this thread thus far? Some one who sells tires for a living said that you do not need to balance tires every time.

Let me guess you work or own a Kal Tire?

[kevie88]

Originally posted by KRyn


Did you even read what has been said in this thread thus far? Some one who sells tires for a living said that you do not need to balance tires every time.

*edit* I just re-read the thread and I can't find anyone in the know who thinks tires don't need to be balanced.

You MUST check each and every tire for balance. Of the hundreds and hundreds of tires I've installed over the years, maybe a handfull didn't need any weight. You MUST check each and every tire.

[Cos]

Originally posted by KRyn


Did you even read what has been said in this thread thus far? Some one who sells tires for a living said that you do not need to balance tires every time.

Let me guess you work or own a Kal Tire?

Errrr you are dumb and can't read. They were talking about an alignment and valve stems.

Balance needs to be done even if the same tires are re-mounted. Balancing takes rim irregularities and rubber irregularities and 'balances' them out with weights to eliminate wheels from being lop sided.

You could probably qualify nicely for a job at kal tire though.

[lellowrx7]

Originally posted by pinoyhero
Anyone know if urban carries klasse wheels?

kal tire does lol

i dont know why everyone thinks they rip people off. They see work and quote it to you, you then choose if it needs to be or not. you can say someones recommendation ripped you off..

and yeah alignments should be followed by a balance to ensure that the car does drive evenly. Balancing is just as important as having correct air pressures

[Cos]

Originally posted by lellowrx7


kal tire does lol

i dont know why everyone thinks they rip people off. They see work and quote it to you, you then choose if it needs to be or not. you can say someones recommendation ripped you off..

and yeah alignments should be followed by a balance to ensure that the car does drive evenly. Balancing is just as important as having correct air pressures

Balancing has nothing to do with an alignment so saying your tires need to be rebalanced after every alignment is incorrect.


Okay, before this madness continues.

- valve stems are the little black things in the rim you put the air in to. You don't NEED to change them everytime, however for $0.10 (or as bob quoted $0.25, they must have gone up since I did them) it is cheap insurance. Obviously if you have stem tpms or metallic ones as bob mentioned this is different.

- balancing is when you have tires and rims mounted together. Manufacturing is never perfect and this causes heavy spots at certain points. Weight on the opposite sides of the rim keeps it from vibrating. This needs to be done everytime the rim and tire are broken and remounted. Whether or not the rim or tire are new/old/whatever.

- alignment is a suspension component. It is when flexible parts move. They need to be kept within spec to ensure proper suspension movement, proper tire contact on the road. Symptoms can be odd wear, accelerated wear, pulling while driving, etc. These are not typically done unless there is a need. It is sometimes used as a way to add chargetime to a work order but if they noticed pulling, are performing any work to the suspension, or the tires are wearing funny. This needs to be done. Otherwise it is on an as needed basis. Manufactures recommend it at intervals but I don't see the point.

[Jeff Lange]

Originally posted by KRyn


Did you even read what has been said in this thread thus far? Some one who sells tires for a living said that you do not need to balance tires every time.

Let me guess you work or own a Kal Tire?

No, I do not work or own a Kal Tire. Did YOU read what has been said in this thread thus far? Like my last post in it? Haha.

Also, you seem to be confusing alignments and balancing. Bob (which is why I assume you were referring to) was talking about alignments, as was I in my last post.

Balancing is something you do EVERY time you mount a tire. You mount, then you balance. Every now and then you may get one that doesn't need to be balanced, but that is a rarity.

The message of mine that you quoted was in response to this:

Originally posted by wintonyk
I had the same experience with Kal tire last week. They said that I needed to balance a new set of tires.

Basically read what Cos said. You don't seem to know what's going on.

Originally posted by Cos
Manufactures recommend it at intervals but I don't see the point.

As you drive and you go over bumps, jarring the vehicle, turning all the time, etc, things can move over time. Most manufacturers recommend getting it inspected at intervals just to make sure nothing is out. You want to prevent premature tire wear before it happens.

From the prices people in this thread have quoted from Kal Tire though, I'd definitely not take it to them, I think a lot of dealerships charge less than $40 to check the alignment.

Jeff

[KRyn]

Ahh yes you did say 'balance', I thought you said alignment... at which pount I thought you to be crazy. My apologies.

[Cos]

Originally posted by Jeff Lange

As you drive and you go over bumps, jarring the vehicle, turning all the time, etc, things can move over time. Most manufacturers recommend getting it inspected at intervals just to make sure nothing is out. You want to prevent premature tire wear before it happens.

From the prices people in this thread have quoted from Kal Tire though, I'd definitely not take it to them, I think a lot of dealerships charge less than $40 to check the alignment.

Jeff

Just from my personal experience, when I worked at Toyota checking alignment and doing alignment was either the same price or damned close. Now my 4x4 is about $110.00 to do the alignment. The first time i did it only left front toe was out of spec. Second time there was nothing out of spec. I also rarely saw vehicles that were severly out of spec when I preformed them (unless the customer complained about an actual alignment issue).

That is why, in my opinion, I only do alignment if I did work on the suspension or if I smoke a curb or notice it doesn't feel quite right. To each their own though. I have enough consumable expenses on this damned thing haha.

[CUG]

FUCK OFF

[kevie88]

Originally posted by CUG
FUCK OFF

No meds this morning J? haha

[CUG]

Originally posted by kevie88



No meds this morning J? haha

I just wanted to see how big the "HUGE" sized lettering was on here. I forgot to add content. I've dealt with the Kal Tire at Chinook, and thought they were really cool. I've never heard of that alignment bullshit before though. That's super aggravating.

[Cos]

Originally posted by CUG
FUCK OFF

DONT YELL AT ME

[Jeff Lange]

Originally posted by KRyn
Ahh yes you did say 'balance', I thought you said alignment... at which pount I thought you to be crazy. My apologies.

No worries.

Originally posted by Cos
Just from my personal experience, when I worked at Toyota checking alignment and doing alignment was either the same price or damned close. Now my 4x4 is about $110.00 to do the alignment. The first time i did it only left front toe was out of spec. Second time there was nothing out of spec. I also rarely saw vehicles that were severly out of spec when I preformed them (unless the customer complained about an actual alignment issue).

That is why, in my opinion, I only do alignment if I did work on the suspension or if I smoke a curb or notice it doesn't feel quite right. To each their own though. I have enough consumable expenses on this damned thing haha.

Interesting. We charge $44.95 for an alignment inspection and $89.95 to actually do an alignment. From what I had heard, I figured most places would be similar (percentage-wise). I guess not.

Jeff

[Cos]

Originally posted by Jeff Lange


No worries.



Interesting. We charge $44.95 for an alignment inspection and $89.95 to actually do an alignment. From what I had heard, I figured most places would be similar (percentage-wise). I guess not.

Jeff

hmmm where do YOU work?

Do you get the 45 as a credit towards a full alignment if it is out of spec?

[Jeff Lange]

Stampede Toyota.

If they did the inspection and said it's out of spec, and you wanted to go ahead and adjust it, you'd just pay for the alignment, not the inspection.

Jeff

[Cos]

Wee I know where I'm going for my alignments now. Thanks Jeff!

[alloroc]

Hehe you moved.