Wikileaks US Diplomatic Cable Leak Discussion

[derpderp]

Its back online again, following them on Twitter is the best method though.

I'm currently in my tinfoil bomb shelter, thinking, what do you think the probability is that WiKiLeaks is a front for a foreign intelligence agency? They sure have taken a large distaste for the USA, it wouldn’t almost seem like someone like the Chinese would be able to do this, especially with their reputation for having a pretty powerful cyber-intelligence department.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by derpderp
it wouldn’t almost seem like someone like the Chinese would be able to do this, especially with their reputation for having a pretty powerful cyber-intelligence department.

Because when dealing with China/Russia/wherever, you probably die when shit like this gets out.

[derpderp]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1


Because when dealing with China/Russia/wherever, you probably die when shit like this gets out.

Um, either you didn't get my post or I don't get yours.

[googe]

Haha, UK issued a gag order on their own press not to publish the leaks. It is amazing how even some powerful governments really do not understand how the internet works

They are not a front. It just seems one-sided because their non-US leaks don't get any attention (but there have been many, huge, non-US leaks on their site) and the citizens of those other countries either can't get the info out, or probably take bribes not to, depending on the country.

In some cases (Kenya genocide) WL staff have gone to those countries to dig up dirt in person.

There is a good TED interview with Julian here that explains the organization a bit better:

[kenny]

Originally posted by googe
Haha, UK issued a gag order on their own press not to publish the leaks. It is amazing how even some powerful governments really do not understand how the internet works

In this case, its more of a gag-request than a gag order. If all the other media in the world start reporting on it, I'm sure the UK media will start publishing it.

[GTS4tw]

Julian Assange will die in a car "accident" probably will be drunk, or with a transvestite hooker too. Too bad it will be much too easy to stop this, not holding my breath that anything of interest will come out.

[derpderp]

You know our governments obviously do shady shit in the world, but I guess I have more faith in government then I think I do. As I see it nothing will happen to him short of jail time, because out governments still respect free speech and human rights enough not to "accidently" push someone out the window + the free press and free speech.

But I've always seen it in an American kind of way, the government should fear the people.


Thanks for the video googe

[CUG]

Yeah, his motives have lost a ton of credibility. Why doesn't he work on "achieving reform" in countries that kill people for stealing and stone women for getting raped?

[derpderp]

He has leaked files from all over the world.

Let me list what wikipedia says:

Pre-2009

Apparent Somali assassination order (Somalia)
Daniel arap Moi family corruption (Kenya)
Guantánamo Bay procedures (US + Allies)
Scientology Leak (World)
Sarah Palin's Yahoo email (US)
BNP membership list (UK)

2009

Climatic Research Unit emails Leak (I'm sure your remeber this one)
Internet censorship lists (Australia)
Bilderberg Group meeting reports (World)
2008 Peru oil scandal (Peru)
Toxic dumping in Africa: The Minton report
Kaupthing Bank (Iceland)
Joint Services Protocol 440 (UK)
9/11 pager messages (US)

2010

U.S. Intelligence report on WikiLeaks (US)
Baghdad airstrike video (US)
Afghan War Diary (US + Allies)
Love Parade documents (Germany)
Iraq War Logs (US + Allies)
Upcoming (USA & World)

[calgary403]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...036/story.html

I can't wait until these are released. Hurry up wikileaks!

[CUG]

Originally posted by derpderp
He has leaked files from all over the world.

Let me list what wikipedia says:

Pre-2009

Apparent Somali assassination order (Somalia)
Daniel arap Moi family corruption (Kenya)
Guantánamo Bay procedures (US + Allies)
Scientology Leak (World)
Sarah Palin's Yahoo email (US)
BNP membership list (UK)

2009

Climatic Research Unit emails Leak (I'm sure your remeber this one)
Internet censorship lists (Australia)
Bilderberg Group meeting reports (World)
2008 Peru oil scandal (Peru)
Toxic dumping in Africa: The Minton report
Kaupthing Bank (Iceland)
Joint Services Protocol 440 (UK)
9/11 pager messages (US)

2010

U.S. Intelligence report on WikiLeaks (US)
Baghdad airstrike video (US)
Afghan War Diary (US + Allies)
Love Parade documents (Germany)
Iraq War Logs (US + Allies)
Upcoming (USA & World)

So out of the entire worlds "leaks", 8 of the 20 are aimed at the USA, and... not one of them are aimed at any countries in the middle east, which are the most corrupt cesspools of political filth on the planet (they just don't have as much power). Just checking. Thanks. I thought I saw cowardice in there somewhere.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by CUG
So out of the entire worlds "leaks", 8 of the 20 are aimed at the USA, and... not one of them are aimed at any countries in the middle east, which are the most corrupt cesspools of political filth on the planet (they just don't have as much power). Just checking. Thanks. I thought I saw cowardice in there somewhere.

Dude, how do you always find a way to knock the ME in every thread?

Wikileaks receives leaks from people that decide they got something to leak.

It's not like the dude running the thing has a choice whos going to approach him with information.

Besides, everyone knows that those crazy A-Rabbs don't use computers anyways. RiiiiiiiiiiighT?

[Freeskier]

Originally posted by CUG
not one of them are aimed at any countries in the middle east, which are the most corrupt cesspools of political filth on the planet (they just don't have as much power).

But everyone already knows that. That would be the world's least surprising leak, proving corruption in the ME.

[Isaiah]

Originally posted by Freeskier

But everyone already knows that. That would be the world's least surprising leak, proving corruption in the ME.

It wouldn't be a leak, it would be a plug.

Hey Assange! New concept: WikiPlugs.org

[First Plug]The Middle East is Corrupt[/First Plug]

[chkolny541]

Originally posted by Freeskier


But everyone already knows that. That would be the world's least surprising leak, proving corruption in the ME.

lol, bingo,

[BigMass]

Originally posted by CUG
Yeah, his motives have lost a ton of credibility. Why doesn't he work on "achieving reform" in countries that kill people for stealing and stone women for getting raped?

Because shithole countries in the middle east don’t have a global agenda of world domination. The western imperial nations have the most powerful militaries, the most interventionist policies, and control the world’s economic system with which they use to establish control over other nations. Of course the biggest leaks are going to come from the nations with the biggest aspirations and most amount of pieces on the chessboard. But is see the western propaganda media has worked on you. While the US is killing millions around the world through both military and economic means, you’re concerned with some middle east countries internal policies or some random person getting stoned.

[Toma]

Originally posted by BigMass


Because shithole countries in the middle east don’t have a global agenda of world domination. The western imperial nations have the most powerful militaries, the most interventionist policies, and control the world’s economic system with which they use to establish control over other nations. Of course the biggest leaks are going to come from the nations with the biggest aspirations and most amount of pieces on the chessboard. But is see the western propaganda media has worked on you. While the US is killing millions around the world through both military and economic means, you’re concerned with some middle east countries internal policies or some random person getting stoned.

Bingo....

Most daunting is the task of removing the blinders from people that refuse to see this.

[LollerBrader]

Originally posted by CUG
Yeah, his motives have lost a ton of credibility. Why doesn't he work on "achieving reform" in countries that kill people for stealing and stone women for getting raped?

That's a stupid thing to say.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by derpderp
One possible scenario is that Canada might be exposed for having foreign operatives. CSIS has always been claimed to be a non-intrusive intelligence agency that doesn’t conduct foreign espionage missions.

Anther one would be the potential physical evidence that the USA might be exposed for heavily rigging the market in their favor during the recession.

I wonder how governments plan on handling this stuff, you would think at the rate of digital intrusion into government computers that governments would seriously consider starting to store everything offline and through transporting files on USB drives.

Dude, even keeping a network offline from the web is no longer secure. This shit is pretty awesome, and scary at the same time.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...ear-ambitions/

[derpderp]

Word is the leak is suppose to be today.