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    Just got this message from the WiKiLeaks twitter.

    "We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack."

    "El Pais, Le Monde, Speigel, Guardian & NYT will publish many US embassy cables tonight, even if WikiLeaks goes down"
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    Originally posted by BigMass


    Because shithole countries in the middle east don’t have a global agenda of world domination.
    I can list at least one shithole country in the ME with a global agenda of world domination...run by none other than Benny Yahoo.

    Originally posted by Toma
    Most daunting is the task of removing the blinders from people that refuse to see this.
    Stupidity is bliss


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    Still down for the public..

    But they already leaked the info to 5 major news outlets (probably some sort of mirror VPN)

    NyTimes already has their hands on it and are commenting on some:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/wo...nted=1&_r=1&hp

    Khadfi is back, lol.
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    ^^ its weird.. I clicked on that link and it showed a bunch of interesting things...

    Clicked on it again 15 mins later , and it wants me to log in now , and all that info is gone.
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    Used the back button and this is what the NY times reported.


    WASHINGTON — A cache of a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables, most of them from the past three years, provides an unprecedented look at backroom bargaining by embassies around the world, brutally candid views of foreign leaders and frank assessments of nuclear and terrorist threats.

    Some of the cables, made available to The New York Times and several other news organizations, were written as recently as late February, revealing the Obama administration’s exchanges over crises and conflicts. The material was originally obtained by WikiLeaks, an organization devoted to revealing secret documents. WikiLeaks intends to make the archive public on its Web site in batches, beginning Sunday.

    The anticipated disclosure of the cables is already sending shudders through the diplomatic establishment, and could conceivably strain relations with some countries, influencing international affairs in ways that are impossible to predict.

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and American ambassadors around the world have been contacting foreign officials in recent days to alert them to the expected disclosures. A statement from the White House on Sunday said: “We condemn in the strongest terms the unauthorized disclosure of classified documents and sensitive national security information.”

    “President Obama supports responsible, accountable, and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal,” the statement said. “By releasing stolen and classified documents, WikiLeaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals.”

    The cables, a huge sampling of the daily traffic between the State Department and some 270 embassies and consulates, amount to a secret chronicle of the United States’ relations with the world in an age of war and terrorism. Among their revelations, to be detailed in The Times in coming days:

    ¶ A dangerous standoff with Pakistan over nuclear fuel: Since 2007, the United States has mounted a highly secret effort, so far unsuccessful, to remove from a Pakistani research reactor highly enriched uranium that American officials fear could be diverted for use in an illicit nuclear device. In May 2009, Ambassador Anne W. Patterson reported that Pakistan was refusing to schedule a visit by American technical experts because, as a Pakistani official said, “if the local media got word of the fuel removal, ‘they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons,’ he argued.”

    ¶ Gaming out an eventual collapse of North Korea: American and South Korean officials have discussed the prospects for a unified Korea, should the North’s economic troubles and political transition lead the state to implode. The South Koreans even considered commercial inducements to China, according to the American ambassador to Seoul. She told Washington in February that South Korean officials believe that the right business deals would “help salve” China’s “concerns about living with a reunified Korea” that is in a “benign alliance” with the United States.

    ¶ Bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison: When American diplomats pressed other countries to resettle detainees, they became reluctant players in a State Department version of “Let’s Make a Deal.” Slovenia was told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President Obama, while the island nation of Kiribati was offered incentives worth millions of dollars to take in Chinese Muslim detainees, cables from diplomats recounted. The Americans, meanwhile, suggested that accepting more prisoners would be “a low-cost way for Belgium to attain prominence in Europe.”

    ¶ Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: When Afghanistan’s vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money “a significant amount” that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud, “was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money’s origin or destination.” (Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)

    ¶ A global computer hacking effort: China’s Politburo directed the intrusion into Google’s computer systems in that country, a Chinese contact told the American Embassy in Beijing in January, one cable reported. The Google hacking was part of a coordinated campaign of computer sabotage carried out by government operatives, private security experts and Internet outlaws recruited by the Chinese government. They have broken into American government computers and those of Western allies, the Dalai Lama and American businesses since 2002, cables said.


    Mixed records against terrorism: Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda, and the tiny Persian Gulf state of Qatar, a generous host to the American military for years, was the “worst in the region” in counterterrorism efforts, according to a State Department cable last December. Qatar’s security service was “hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the U.S. and provoking reprisals,” the cable said.

    An intriguing alliance: American diplomats in Rome reported in 2009 on what their Italian contacts described as an extraordinarily close relationship between Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian prime minister, and Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister and business magnate, including “lavish gifts,” lucrative energy contracts and a “shadowy” Russian-speaking Italian go-between. They wrote that Mr. Berlusconi “appears increasingly to be the mouthpiece of Putin” in Europe. The diplomats also noted that while Mr. Putin enjoys supremacy over all other public figures in Russia, he is undermined by an unmanageable bureaucracy that often ignores his edicts.

    ¶ Arms deliveries to militants: Cables describe the United States’ failing struggle to prevent Syria from supplying arms to Hezbollah in Lebanon, which has amassed a huge stockpile since its 2006 war with Israel. One week after President Bashar al-Assad promised a top State Department official that he would not send “new” arms to Hezbollah, the United States complained that it had information that Syria was providing increasingly sophisticated weapons to the group.

    ¶ Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official “that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S.”

    The 251,287 cables, first acquired by WikiLeaks, were provided to The Times by an intermediary on the condition of anonymity. Many are unclassified, and none are marked “top secret,” the government’s most secure communications status. But some 11,000 are classified “secret,” 9,000 are labeled “noforn,” shorthand for material considered too delicate to be shared with any foreign government, and 4,000 are designated both secret and noforn.

    Many more cables name diplomats’ confidential sources, from foreign legislators and military officers to human rights activists and journalists, often with a warning to Washington: “Please protect” or “Strictly protect.”

    The Times has withheld from articles and removed from documents it is posting online the names of some people who spoke privately to diplomats and might be at risk if they were publicly identified. The Times is also withholding some passages or entire cables whose disclosure could compromise American intelligence efforts.

    Terrorism’s Shadow

    The cables show that nearly a decade after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the dark shadow of terrorism still dominates the United States’ relations with the world. They depict the Obama administration struggling to sort out which Pakistanis are trustworthy partners against Al Qaeda, adding Australians who have disappeared in the Middle East to terrorist watch lists, and assessing whether a lurking rickshaw driver in Lahore, Pakistan, was awaiting fares or conducting surveillance of the road to the American Consulate.

    They show American officials managing relations with a China on the rise and a Russia retreating from democracy. They document years of painstaking effort to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon — and of worry about a possible Israeli strike on Iran with the same goal.

    Even when they recount events that are already known, the cables offer remarkable details.

    For instance, it has been previously reported that the Yemeni government has sought to cover up the American role in missile strikes against the local branch of Al Qaeda. But a cable’s fly-on-the-wall account of a January meeting between the Yemeni president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, and Gen. David H. Petraeus, then the American commander in the Middle East, is nonetheless breathtaking.

    “We’ll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours,” Mr. Saleh said, according to the cable sent by the American ambassador, prompting Yemen’s deputy prime minister to “joke that he had just ‘lied’ by telling Parliament” that Yemeni forces had carried out the strikes.

    Mr. Saleh, who at other times resisted American counterterrorism requests, was in a lighthearted mood. The authoritarian ruler of a conservative Muslim country, Mr. Saleh complains of smuggling from nearby Djibouti, but tells General Petraeus that his concerns are drugs and weapons, not whiskey, “provided it’s good whiskey.”

    Likewise, press reports detailed the unhappiness of the Libyan leader, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, when he was not permitted to set up his tent in Manhattan or to visit ground zero during a United Nations session last year.

    But the cables add to the tale a touch of scandal and alarm. They describe the volatile Libyan leader as rarely without the companionship of “his senior Ukrainian nurse,” described as “a voluptuous blonde.” They reveal that Colonel Qaddafi was so upset by his reception in New York that he balked at carrying out a promise to return dangerous enriched uranium to Russia. The American ambassador to Libya told Colonel Qaddafi’s son “that the Libyan government had chosen a very dangerous venue to express its pique,” a cable reported to Washington.


    The cables also disclose frank comments behind closed doors. Dispatches from early this year, for instance, quote the aging monarch of Saudi Arabia, King Abdullah, as speaking scathingly about the leaders of Iraq and Pakistan.

    Speaking to another Iraqi official about Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, King Abdullah said, “You and Iraq are in my heart, but that man is not.” The king called President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan the greatest obstacle to that country’s progress. “When the head is rotten,” he said, “it affects the whole body.”

    The American ambassador to Eritrea reported last year that “Eritrean officials are ignorant or lying” in denying that they were supporting the Shabab, a militant Islamist group in Somalia. The cable then mused about which seemed more likely.

    As he left Zimbabwe in 2007 after three years as ambassador, Christopher W. Dell wrote a sardonic account of Robert Mugabe, that country’s aging and erratic leader. The cable called Mr. Mugabe “a brilliant tactician” but mocked “his deep ignorance on economic issues (coupled with the belief that his 18 doctorates give him the authority to suspend the laws of economics).”

    The possibility that a large number of diplomatic cables might become public has been discussed in government and media circles since May. That was when, in an online chat, an Army intelligence analyst, Pfc. Bradley Manning, described having downloaded from a military computer system many classified documents, including “260,000 State Department cables from embassies and consulates all over the world.” In an online discussion with Adrian Lamo, a computer hacker, Private Manning said he had delivered the cables and other documents to WikiLeaks.

    Mr. Lamo reported Private Manning’s disclosures to federal authorities, and Private Manning was arrested. He has been charged with illegally leaking classified information and faces a possible court-martial and, if convicted, a lengthy prison term.

    In July and October, The Times, the British newspaper The Guardian and the German magazine Der Spiegel published articles based on documents about Afghanistan and Iraq. Those collections of dispatches were placed online by WikiLeaks, with selective redactions of the Afghan documents and much heavier redactions of the Iraq reports. The group has said it intends to post the documents in the current trove as well, after editing to remove the names of confidential sources and other details.

    Fodder for Historians

    Traditionally, most diplomatic cables remain secret for decades, providing fodder for historians only when the participants are long retired or dead. The State Department’s unclassified history series, entitled “Foreign Relations of the United States,” has reached only the year 1972.

    While an overwhelming majority of the quarter-million cables provided to The Times are from the post-9/11 era, several hundred date from 1966 to the 1990s. Some show diplomats struggling to make sense of major events whose future course they could not guess.

    In a 1979 cable to Washington, Bruce Laingen, an American diplomat in Teheran, mused with a knowing tone about the Iranian revolution that had just occurred: “Perhaps the single dominant aspect of the Persian psyche is an overriding egoism,” Mr. Laingen wrote, offering tips on exploiting this psyche in negotiations with the new government. Less than three months later, Mr. Laingen and his colleagues would be taken hostage by radical Iranian students, hurling the Carter administration into crisis and, perhaps, demonstrating the hazards of diplomatic hubris.

    In 1989, an American diplomat in Panama City mulled over the options open to Gen. Manuel Noriega, the Panamanian leader, who was facing narcotics charges in the United States and intense domestic and international political pressure to step down. The cable called General Noriega “a master of survival”; its author appeared to have no inkling that one week later, the United States would invade Panama to unseat General Noriega and arrest him.

    In 1990, an American diplomat sent an excited dispatch from Cape Town: he had just learned from a lawyer for Nelson Mandela that Mr. Mandela’s 27-year imprisonment was to end. The cable conveys the momentous changes about to begin for South Africa, even as it discusses preparations for an impending visit from the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson.



    Scott Shane reported from Washington, and Andrew W. Lehren from New York. Reporting was contributed by Jo Becker, C. J. Chivers and James Glanz from New York; Eric Lichtblau, Michael R. Gordon, David E. Sanger, Charlie Savage, Eric Schmitt and Ginger Thompson from Washington; and Jane Perlez from Islamabad, Pakistan.
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    ^ you cant make this shit up.

    This would make a great book if these could be verified somehow.

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    "WASHINGTON - United States diplomats have been running a spying campaign against the United Nations leadership and representatives of permanent members of its security council, including Britain, according to documents released by WikiLeaks."

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/spyin...585/story.html

    This stuff is going to be really embarrassing for the US. Karma may start finally biting them in the ass.

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    Here is a summary of what's been released so far:

    https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._leak#Contents

    On 28 November 2010, WikiLeaks released 219 out of the 215,287 cables, stating "The embassy cables will be released in stages over the next few months. The subject matter of these cables is of such importance, and the geographical spread so broad, that to do otherwise would not do this material justice."


    This much has come out and we are barely getting started?

    wired.com has a bit about them implanting chips into detainees. Can you imagine if someone suggested that was happening, how many people would write them off as a crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist?

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    The Guantanamo stuff will probably shock people the most.

    "Chronicles of Riddick" style - where you have to pay and bribe literally millions of dollars to have the worst prisoners moved to their country or origin because they don't want them back.

    The US doesn't even want them for torture - they are just wasting too much money on whips and bamboo for the fingernails. Guantanamo was far too expensive to maintain, probably even more than Nasa.
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    All Gitmo prisoners have chips in them. They don't just implant under the skin - they attach the sucker right to the bone (if the conspiracy is to be believed) while unconscious. Satellite tracking, means the best spot to put the chip - is in the head. Tinfoil winnar!

    It shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone, many states require those out on bond to wear unremovable tracking ankle bracelets or the like. And thats for white people on restraining orders.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/373341...ch_and_science
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    It's funny that anyone actually believes that US will get any backlash from these leaks. The US simply states that they have abused their powers repeatedly, so what, they can do so much worse. I have heard comments like these, in person, from top level US officials.


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    Originally posted by broken_legs



    Dude, how do you always find a way to knock the ME in every thread?

    Wikileaks receives leaks from people that decide they got something to leak.

    It's not like the dude running the thing has a choice whos going to approach him with information.

    Besides, everyone knows that those crazy A-Rabbs don't use computers anyways. RiiiiiiiiiiighT?
    It's easy, all you have to do is get behind a computer and reap the benefits of computer anonymity. Just some racist redneck dirtbag who thinks Canada belongs to white people and thinks he's cool when he makes witty jokes about muslims and immigrants alike. I'd love to see him crack a funny NE or Muslim joke to a group of Muslims.

    Everybody is a cool, political expert on the internet. CUG makes a cool post, Chkolny co-signs for him and holds his dick when he pisses, and every once in a while Mazdavirgin and 01reddx will come in and enlighten us with their "white people created everything, all immigrants especially middle easterners and muslims owe us their lives and are dirty, women stoning cavemen compared to us educated white folk"

    Again, would pay money to see CUG tell his little jokes to someone in real life. Yeah, there's a real world outside of the internet, and you can't press the ignore button when they're beating the living fuck out of you.

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    ^Does anyone else see the irony in this post? CUG states (right or wrong) that ME countries can be violent and oppressive, and you call him out, and claim he would get beat by Muslims for saying that in real life, more or less validating his argument.

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    If you can't out shine them with intelligence, you better just kick their ass.

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    back on topic, this is a funny exchange they had with the US government before the leak. Since the US govt keeps attacking them with "putting lives in danger", Julian said they would be happy to redact specific instances where this was the case. Of course, if they really cared about lives, they would do this, but then they would lose their only argument tactic:

    28 Nov 2010

    Index on Censorship has obtained copies of correspondence between whistleblowing website Wikileaks and the US embassy in the United Kingdom, which took place between Friday and Sunday. They reveal Wikileaks editor in chiefs last-minute attempt to seek the cooperation of the United States government in redacting information from the latest controversial release of documents.

    Mark Stephens of Finers Stephens Innocent, who represents Julian Assange in the UK, is a trustee of Index of Censorship.

    26 November
    Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks
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    US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman

    Subject to the general objective of ensuring maximum disclosure of information in the public interest, WikiLeaks would be grateful for the United States Government to privately nominate any specific instances (record numbers or names) where it considers the publication of information would put individual persons at significant risk of harm that has not already been addressed. PDF

    27 November
    Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser, United States Department of State
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    Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks

    We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained U.S. Government classified materials. PDF

    28 November
    Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks
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    US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman

    I understand that the United States government would prefer not to have the information that will be published in the public domain and is not in favour of openness. That said, either there is a risk or there is not. You have chosen to respond in a manner which leads me to conclude that the supposed risks are entirely fanciful and you are instead concerned to suppress evidence of human rights abuse and other criminal behaviour. PDF

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    Originally posted by JimmyBurner


    It's easy, all you have to do is get behind a computer and reap the benefits of computer anonymity. Just some racist redneck dirtbag who thinks Canada belongs to white people and thinks he's cool when he makes witty jokes about muslims and immigrants alike. I'd love to see him crack a funny NE or Muslim joke to a group of Muslims.

    Everybody is a cool, political expert on the internet. CUG makes a cool post, Chkolny co-signs for him and holds his dick when he pisses, and every once in a while Mazdavirgin and 01reddx will come in and enlighten us with their "white people created everything, all immigrants especially middle easterners and muslims owe us their lives and are dirty, women stoning cavemen compared to us educated white folk"

    Again, would pay money to see CUG tell his little jokes to someone in real life. Yeah, there's a real world outside of the internet, and you can't press the ignore button when they're beating the living fuck out of you.






    And the ME smells like poop. I'd gladly tell you that in person.

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    Originally posted by JimmyBurner


    It's easy, all you have to do is get behind a computer and reap the benefits of computer anonymity. Just some racist redneck dirtbag who thinks Canada belongs to white people and thinks he's cool when he makes witty jokes about muslims and immigrants alike. I'd love to see him crack a funny NE or Muslim joke to a group of Muslims.

    Everybody is a cool, political expert on the internet. CUG makes a cool post, Chkolny co-signs for him and holds his dick when he pisses, and every once in a while Mazdavirgin and 01reddx will come in and enlighten us with their "white people created everything, all immigrants especially middle easterners and muslims owe us their lives and are dirty, women stoning cavemen compared to us educated white folk"

    Again, would pay money to see CUG tell his little jokes to someone in real life. Yeah, there's a real world outside of the internet, and you can't press the ignore button when they're beating the living fuck out of you.

    Originally posted by atgilchrist
    ^Does anyone else see the irony in this post? CUG states (right or wrong) that ME countries can be violent and oppressive, and you call him out, and claim he would get beat by Muslims for saying that in real life, more or less validating his argument.
    No shit, little Jimmy just can't get out of his mom's basement.

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    Some of these cables are like 007 style, its great.

    First Gadzhi joined them and then Ramzan who danced clumsily with his gold-plated automatic stuck down in the back of his jeans (a houseguest later pointed out that the gold housing eliminated any practical use of the gun, but smirked that Ramzan probably couldn't fire it anyway). Both Gadzhi and Ramzan showered the dancing children with hundred dollar bills; the dancers probably picked upwards of USD 5000 off the cobblestones. Gadzhi told us later that Ramzan had brought the happy couple "a five kilo lump of gold" as his wedding present. After the dancing and a quick tour of the premises, Ramzan and his army drove off back to Chechnya.
    MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN

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    Here is more from the same cable.

    After Ramzan sped off, the dinner and drinking -- especially the latter -- continued. An Avar FSB colonel sitting next to us, dead drunk, was highly insulted that we would not allow him to add "cognac" to our wine. "It's practically the same thing," he insisted, until a Russian FSB general sitting opposite told him to drop it. We were inclined to cut the Colonel some slack, though: he is head of the unit to combat terrorism in Dagestan, and Gadzhi told us that extremists have sooner or later assassinated everyone who has joined that unit. We were more worried when an Afghan war buddy of the Colonel's, Rector of the Dagestan University Law School and too drunk to sit, let alone stand, pulled out his automatic and asked if we needed any protection. At this point Gadzhi and his people came over, propped the rector between their shoulders, and let us get out of range.
    http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable...OSCOW9533.html
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    Originally posted by calgary403
    I'd gladly tell you that in person.
    Don't just talk about it, actually do it then. PM jimmyburner so u can tell him to his face since ur so brave.

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    e-drama overload

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