WRX STI's and EVO X's: Nope not a rivalry argument

[SideSwipe]

Any input from owners of WRX STI's and evos (X's mostly) would be greatly appreciated.

Im stuck in a dilemma in which i cant decide on whether to buy an EVO X GSR or a 2011 wrx sti hatchback with sport tech package. I am selling my two vehicles for one (garage space and future projects...). But i dont want to sell my fun and HP with those vehicles. (of course they have to sell first so i have some time to decide)

Considering this car would be a daily driver, i also need to maintain some form of reliability. But i cant see an intake, exhaust, and tune and maybe some other parts good for at least 400hp or more, taking a huge chunk of reliability out of the equation....Sure it lowers the reliability, but by a worryingly large amount?

I would love to build my own version of the Evo X FQ360 or FQ400 if i choose an evo.

From what I understand (from magazines, videos, and other forums) Evo's are better performance vehicles over the sti. Evo's are cheaper and easier to modify (?). Sti's are more practical. I know it all comes down to preferences, but i simply want some back ground info in the two cars from more of a performance and modification aspect based on personal experience. I want to know what other owners felt about the cars ect.

I like the wrx sti 5 door because it looks cool, has a cool exhaust note (especially with a nice exhaust system) has a 6 speed, pretty comfortable, the whole centre locking diff and various degrees of lock and throttle response... its somewhat practical (i dont move lots of stuff). And its slightly cheaper with the sport-tech package than a loaded evo.

I like the evo because ever since i saw the top gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson raced a lambo I told myself that one day i want a four door 4 cylinder japanese car that can eat lambos. And then i also saw the newest comparison between the evo 360 and sti and that didnt help. I also like the way they look, and the awd system... but they are considerably more expensive and you still only get a 5 speed 290hp/300ft.lbs.


oh, dont start an argument. No mater how much you want to, dont do it. Both cars are great, and they are both as ugly as infected war wounds...

[jsn]

To be honest, I think you should just go test drive both and see which one you prefer. Both have their own Pros and Cons and you'll have fanboys on each side trying to convince you that one is better than the other. The evo may be slightly faster but unless you're going to track it fairly often, that may not even be a consideration. Just try both and see which one you prefer.

[jutes]

I would wait a year and see if Subaru finally redesigns their turbo engines - they've been the same since 04'. If they are the same ol' piston ring eating monstrosity, go with the EVO.

[Onassis]

They are both due for major rehauls in the next year or so, I'd wait for the Evo XI and new STI.

[Muji]

Wait for the refreshed versions of each. Sell one of your current vehicles and sit with the cash until the new designs come out, you know you will regret it if you jump in now. Besides, there will be better deals once the newer models are on the dealer's lot, should you still want the older versions.

I am a hatchback guy, Mits are nice and all, just nothing hatch-like at the moment with real power. Nice if they did.

[SideSwipe]

Originally posted by Muji
Wait for the refreshed versions of each. Sell one of your current vehicles and sit with the cash until the new designs come out, you know you will regret it if you jump in now. Besides, there will be better deals once the newer models are on the dealer's lot, should you still want the older versions.

I am a hatchback guy, Mits are nice and all, just nothing hatch-like at the moment with real power. Nice if they did.

Thats usually what always happens. They wont change the design or whatever until i buy one. But even then i dont see or hear any news from mitsubishi or subaru about any new versions coming any time soon. And on top of that i would still like to get some money from the vehicles im selling... would rather not throw them away.

I think im just going to spend a weekend test driving the two cars.

as for tracking it... its the last year of race city. chances are slim that i would get to test my new evo or sti on the track

[carzcraz]

You honestly need to test drive both before deciding. They really do drive and perform quite differently, each with its own strengths and weaknesses. We enjoyed them both and ended up with one each.

To make the cars perform better/faster, the Evo seems to cost less to modify. We are bringing my husband's STi to Lightspeed next week for a stage 2 (Accessport, catback exhaust, downpipe, drop in filter, custom tune) that is going to run us close to $2600 installed. According to them, this will produce approximately 50whp. If I'm not mistaken to generate an equivalent amount of output from the Evo would cost quite a fraction less.

I'm not sure about the next gen STi but the Evo XI is rumored to possibly be a hybrid/diesel.

[That.Guy.S30]

Cue Heavy D... lol

I would wait and see what new engine subaru is going to put out. the EJ257 is going to be phased out. Shitty engine from 07-on anways.

Im usually partial to subaru's but I like the new EVO's. Subaru has gone soft.

[RY213]

*waits for heavy D to bash anything Subaru*

[Onassis]

They are both on 3 year cycles. The new Lancer and Impreza will debut first and the performance versions later.

There have been a few mules running around, but the Evo has been better with each generation... Subaru not so much (this coming from a guy who's owned every generation of WRX and STI).

[georgemagana]

I cant remember if the gsr is the tiptronic one but if your looking for the 5 speed fully loaded.. theres not such thing. You either get manual not fully loaded or tiptronic fully loaded. I also heard from my friend that had an sti that doing regular maintenace on the sti is a bitch since it has a boxter engine. He said changing the spark plugs took him a good 6 hours the first time lol

[That.Guy.S30]

^ are not the imprezas on a 5 year chassis cycle and a 3 year face lift?

[wintonyk]

Originally posted by georgemagana
I cant remember if the gsr is the tiptronic one but if your looking for the 5 speed fully loaded.. theres not such thing. You either get manual not fully loaded or tiptronic fully loaded. I also heard from my friend that had an sti that doing regular maintenace on the sti is a bitch since it has a boxter engine. He said changing the spark plugs took him a good 6 hours the first time lol

lol subaru quotes .4 hours for spark plugs linky

GSR is the 5 speed and MR is has the Twin Clutch sportronic

[psycoticclown]

Lol, no thread about Evo's would be complete without HeavyD bashing Subaru's haha.

[V6-BoI]

Originally posted by Onassis
They are both due for major rehauls in the next year or so, I'd wait for the Evo XI and new STI.

Last time I heard the EVO XI is gonna be a turbo hybrid, not too sure how reliable the rumours are though.
http://bydeo.com/style/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-xi/

I have an 08 EVO GSR, and I love to drive my car. Got an intake, exhaust and tune and the car runs fine and I think it's pretty reliable (although not close to 400 hp though).

But honesetly if I had to choose now between an STi and an EVO, I probably would get an STi over an EVO soley because of the price difference. I understand that the EVO X does have a new engine design as well as a more sophisticated AWD system than the STi, but I don't think I'm THAT big of a car enthusiast to be able to appreciate it. When I bought my EVO, I saw so many STis on the road I wanted something that no one had, so I didn't even consider the STi. And also because I wasn't digging the hatchback look, but now it totally grew on me.

[CapnCrunch]

I don't know much about either car, but I have 10 times more faith in Subaru than Mitsubishi.

[Kartelli]

I had the same dilemma as you, I owned a 06 STi for 3 years and I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.

STi's are easy to work on, cheap to maintain, and have a slight advantage in terms of better quality of parts. If we comparing pricing on performance parts, the bang for your buck value goes to the EVO, by a slight margin.

For 2k in performance parts I had mine running at 280 whp and 320 wtrq. Very quick for a daily driver. I've driven the new hatchback STi's and they have improved every aspect of what I hated in my 06 including suspension, interior, and sun roof.

You won't regret it

[heavyD]

Originally posted by CapnCrunch
I don't know much about either car, but I have 10 times more faith in Subaru than Mitsubishi.

I'm the opposite. Mitsubishi builds a better engine than Subaru, always has. Since they don't have to outsource their turbochargers their turbocharged cars come with higher tech turbochargers as well. The EVO costs more because it's a higher tech car than the STI from the AWD system, transmission, engine, suspension, Recaros, etc. Subaru is selling the same car they sold here in 2004 so they can afford to make it cheaper as you are paying for decade old technology.

If you have to have a Subaru save your money and get the WRX especially now that they look nearly identical. The STI isn't that great a performer for the premium it carries over the WRX. Check out the latest Car & Driver Lightning lap and draw your own conclusions if all that extra money is worth a slower car in the straight line and marginally faster around a track. It seems the only thing the WRX needs to outrun the STI around a track is better brakes.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by heavyD

Oh lulz. /thread

[Barlow]

Originally posted by heavyD


I'm the opposite. Mitsubishi builds a better engine than Subaru, always has. Since they don't have to outsource their turbochargers their turbocharged cars come with higher tech turbochargers as well. The EVO costs more because it's a higher tech car than the STI from the AWD system, transmission, engine, suspension, Recaros, etc. Subaru is selling the same car they sold here in 2004 so they can afford to make it cheaper as you are paying for decade old technology.

If you have to have a Subaru save your money and get the WRX especially now that they look nearly identical. The STI isn't that great a performer for the premium it carries over the WRX. Check out the latest Car & Driver Lightning lap and draw your own conclusions if all that extra money is worth a slower car in the straight line and marginally faster around a track. It seems the only thing the WRX needs to outrun the STI around a track is better brakes.

You know why Mitsubishi gives a 10 year warranty right?