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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
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    I think they should have found a way to ditch the street level cars and switch to our standard trains, link that up to the red or blue line.
    The concept of a broken up Green Line has been bandied about before. The South Portion would connect onto 7th Ave (which would be terrible for the current network, but would get the Green Line downtown the cheapest way). This would require the same cars as the current system. Then the North portion would be built separately, which is where the low floor trains were essentially for, and what would have the different options for downtown and not have the problem of needing to integrate with the south portion.

    The biggest problem with such an option is adding even more congestion onto 7th Ave. Frequencies would need to be reduced on both Red and Blue Lines and in order to maintain capacity with the lower frequencies a lot of cars would need to be purchased to get everything to 4 car trains (in addition to the purchase of the cars for the south line as well; so hundreds of millions of dollars and a reduction in service for the two current lines). The way around this would be to put the Red Line underground which would result in the biggest service improvement across all of transit, reducing travel times and providing the largest capacity increase. Then it would just be the lower capacity Blue and Green south lines on 7th. Would be a very good option, improving the highest ridership line and leaving lots of room for future growth, but it isn't going to save any money, because you're just replacing a low-ridership tunnel option with a high ridership tunnel option (which is a good trade, really). Without that alternate tunnel option, such a plan is a pretty terrible one.

    Where the terminus of the north line would go would be the biggest question mark for potential ridership for that leg. Not getting to the Stampede Grounds and event centre would limit it, but the transit option would still exist with a transfer, which isn't as big a deal as needing to walk. But not needing to directly integrate with a tunnel or at-grade option makes an elevated option more feasible. If the requirement of not needing to interfere with current vehicle traffic is removed, it can even be done somewhat cheaply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
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    I think they should have found a way to ditch the street level cars and switch to our standard trains, link that up to the red or blue line.
    So much this....different trains is the classic city employee choice. So dumb.

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    Ya people driving cars is totally the reason the green line project sucks
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    Calgarys downtown is sandwiched between two big problems, the river and the CP Rail lines. The fact that there's only 6 east-west roads, and 2 of them are already non-vehicular, means downtown traffic is currently, and always will be, fucked.
    Any method of moving more transit at-grade through downtown fucks something. It's a question of who ('s dad) you want to fuck.
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    Serious question, why are we even trying to get more people downtown? Office vacancy is hilariously high, and there's no vibrant entertainment district like most "world class" cities have downtown. What's the attraction of going there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Serious question, why are we even trying to get more people downtown? Office vacancy is hilariously high, and there's no vibrant entertainment district like most "world class" cities have downtown. What's the attraction of going there?
    It's more about changing how people get downtown, rather than bringing more people downtown. If a few thousand people a day go from driving driving downtown to taking transit, that makes things a lot better for everyone.

    Also on the way to downtown is an event centre the city and province are spending a stupid amount of money on, and this is a better way to bring people to that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    It's more about changing how people get downtown, rather than bringing more people downtown. If a few thousand people a day go from driving driving downtown to taking transit, that makes things a lot better for everyone.

    Also on the way to downtown is an event centre the city and province are spending a stupid amount of money on, and this is a better way to bring people to that as well.
    Nobody wants to take transit downtown especially if they have a vehicle. Man I lived in Spruce Cliff and avoided taking the train in because of all the stupid bullshit whether it was late trains, late buses or just straight up public nuisances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Serious question, why are we even trying to get more people downtown? Office vacancy is hilariously high, and there's no vibrant entertainment district like most "world class" cities have downtown.
    Soooo, we should't try to have people go downtown, because not enough people go downtown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Soooo, we should't try to have people go downtown, because not enough people go downtown?
    What is so enticing downtown Calgary you can't find elsewhere and not have to go downtown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    Nobody wants to take transit downtown especially if they have a vehicle. Man I lived in Spruce Cliff and avoided taking the train in because of all the stupid bullshit whether it was late trains, late buses or just straight up public nuisances.
    The only way to sustainably manage traffic is to reduce the number of drivers. So if you like to drive, you should want to invest in the best public transit possible to make it as enticing and practical for as many people as possible.

    Nobody wants to take transit yet there's still over 400,000 trips per day. Imagine if all those trips were done by car instead. Where would people even park?!

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    What's all the hate on for DT? It's nice and it's only going to get better.

    I actually like the idea of putting the red line underground. I will still not be taking transit but I like the idea of other people taking transit and would pay to get them to
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjstare View Post
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    Is this a trick question? Americans figured this out like 130 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwslam View Post
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    Posts in the middle of the street... Perfect for snow removal!
    Or are they constructed using N64 Cruis'n USA standards where you can drive through them, they flatten, and bounce back to life?
    How do you think they manage snow removal downtown currently? It’s not like the bike lanes have proven an insurmountable challenge.


    I honestly can’t tell if you’re trolling.

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    Or the buildings. Or the curbs
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    Guess the city is disbanding the oversight board as well.
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    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, go ruin someone else’s city.
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    How are they going to spin this as UCP’s fault? Aside from Reddit because they don’t spin just blame haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    How are they going to spin this as UCP’s fault? Aside from Reddit because they don’t spin just blame haha.
    “UCP causing brain drain at the city”
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