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    Default Is the US About to Go to WAR with Libya?

    from: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/war...-all-happening


    IS the US about to Go To War With Libya?
    The calls for military action against Libya are rapidly reaching a crescendo.

    The U.S. Senate has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the UN Security Council to impose a no-fly zone over Libya, and many members of Congress are openly declaring that the U.S. and NATO should take unilateral action no matter what the UN ultimately decides.

    But implementing a no-fly zone is not a simple thing. It is not just a matter of telling Libya not to fly their planes. Rather, imposing a no-fly zone over Libya would constitute a major military operation.

    U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is even admitting that enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya would begin with a huge military strike.....
    "Let's just call a spade a spade. A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya to destroy the air defenses ... and then you can fly planes around the country and not worry about our guys being shot down."

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...21852520110302


    U.S. commander General James Mattis made a similar comment on Tuesday....
    You would have to remove the air defense capability in order to establish the no-fly zone so it - no illusions here, it would be a military operation.

    http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Liby...ds_US_999.html
    Essentially, imposing a no-fly zone over Libya would be an act of war.

    Most of our representatives in Washington D.C. seem to be quite ready to go to war in Libya, but it is another story entirely when it comes to the American people. A recent Rasmussen poll found that a whopping 67 percent of Americans do not want the U.S. to get more involved in the unrest going on in Arab countries and only 17 percent of Americans do want the U.S. to get more directly involved.

    But the American people don't get to decide whether we go to war or not. Our leaders in Washington D.C. do. The USS Enterprise and other major warships are on their way to Libya, and U.S. forces throughout the Mediterranean are on high alert.

    So could the U.S. really get involved in another war in the Middle East?

    Well, if the U.S. and NATO choose to get involved they will do it without the approval of the rest of the world.

    On Wednesday, the Arab League issued a statement which specifically rejected
    "any foreign interference within Libya on behalf of the opposition".

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/02/lib...ons/index.html
    Not only that, but any military action by the UN will most likely be blocked by both China and Russia.

    Russia's ambassador to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, says that any military action against Libya without UN approval would be a violation of international law....


    "If someone in Washington is seeking a blitzkrieg in Libya, it is a serious mistake because any use of military force outside the NATO responsibility zone will be considered a violation of international law."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ne-Gaddaf.html
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    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...n_arab_nations

    From: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-...-within-5-7-da

    As we speculated last week, the LHD 3 Kearsarge deftly left the treacherous waters of the Red Sea a few days ago, and after crossing the Suez is now well on its way to the shores of Tripoli (where it is set to meet Canadian, Korean and Dutch warships). Yet to those who argue that the US military is a well-oiled machine, look no further than the schizophrenic moves the CVN 65 Enterprise has had to endure in the past two weeks: after it was just off the coast of Libya as recently as February 9, and rushing into the Red Sea in direction Straits of Hormuz two weeks ago, the storied aircraft carrier was halted dead in its tracks en route, and ordered to do a 180. It is now hot on the heels of the Kearsarge and we believe will also cross the Suez within 48 hours as it moves in to provide air support to Libya by the weekend.



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    #1 "We Can't Stand Aside And Watch Gaddafi Kill His Own People"

    #2 "It Would Just Be A Humanitarian Mission"

    #3 "Libya Is Torturing Prisoners"

    #4 "The Libyan Rebels Will Not Be Able To Take Down Gaddhafi With Our Help"

    #5 "U.S. Interests Are Being Threatened"

    #6 "Gaddafi Is Crazy"

    #7 "Gaddafi Has Weapons Of Mass Destruction"

    #8 "Gaddafi Will Use Chemical Weapons If We Don't Stop Him"

    #9 "Gaddafi Has "1,000 Metric Tons Of Uranium Yellowcake"

    #10 "European Energy Companies Are Deeply Invested In Libyan Oil And Gas Fields"

    #11 "Millions of Dollars Worth Of Infrastructure Will Be Destroyed If We Don't Intervene"

    #12 "The Crisis In Libya Is Bad For The Global Economy"

    #13 "Someone Has To Protect The Oil"

    #14 "We Have Got To Go Into Libya To Keep Al-Qaeda From Getting A Foothold"
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    The US never goes to war with anyone theyre just trying to"help" lol

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    Does Libya have Oil?

    OK. The Americans will be right over. lol
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    Originally posted by Sugarphreak
    I sense some lingering tension... between you and 911Fever




    +1

    I figured it would be more constructive to get his predictable responses out of the way at the beginning, then we don't have to waste 2 pages killing a perfectly good thread.

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    I heard on the radio that US troops have landed and will be training the rebels.
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    wait wheres the "ZenOps" choice to vote?

    i'll bet to see the local + all the defected army population in the east start moving towards to capital before the yankees attempt something, then well see some shiz

    edit: cause they can obviously pull their own weight, they just need more armour tho...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12637724
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    Originally posted by Modelexis
    I heard on the radio that US troops have landed and will be training the rebels.

    The Kearsage is a marine attack vessel that carries amphibious assault teams.
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    Didn't they violate international law going into Iraq?
    I'm not going to offer an opinion on whether or not the US should intervene as I haven't formed one yet, but I don't think the US is too concerned with international law.

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    You of course know what Qudaffy is going to do.

    The US froze his assets, they consficated his assets in Canada. Money now means nothing to him.

    He will do exactly this: Blow up every single oil installation he can get his hands on. If he can't have the money, noone can.

    This is a game changer. My armageddon meter just moved from amber to purple. Purple alert!
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    Originally posted by Hakkola
    I don't think the US is too concerned with international law.
    Bingo.

    But even the US would have to be feeling pretty ballsy to piss off Russia and China. Maybe one, but both? I don't know....

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    What worries me... Is that they sent the Enterprise.

    The Enterprise is expendable. Its actually far past its prime and probably just like the shuttle, destined for the scrap heap if its not used.

    Which means the US might try a "they shot first" scenario, and scuttle or damage their own ship as an excuse to escalate.
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    Originally posted by ZenOps


    Which means the US might try a "they shot first" scenario, and scuttle or damage their own ship as an excuse to escalate.
    Dammit ZenOps!

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    Sweeeeeet, another war I can't afford...


    So, how does one become a Canadian...?

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    Thank you one and all for your 18 votes!

    Apparently I don't even have to reply to this thread lawl, broken_mind does it for me!
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    Would vote for 911fever again. He's one of the few in the society/law/current events/politics that has the balls to go up against all the crazy lefties on beyond.

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    US has been itching for a new war.... perhaps to take peoples minds off the growing unrest towards the dictatorship within their buddy Saudi Arabia.

    Curious though if this will get by within the UN, and without a veto.....

    And if it does get voted down, I wonder how the US is gonna get around that? Just do it anyway (again?)/

    And it was the US that armed those "rebels" to the teeth. I wonder if the rebels actually have majority support. The news stories I have seen seems shakey at best.

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    Originally posted by Toma


    Curious though if this will get by within the UN, and without a veto.....
    The UN is a fucking joke.

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    Originally posted by jutes


    The UN is a fucking joke.
    Only cause it allows vetos and is un-democratic, but it is a great idea in principle.

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