Game of Thrones (TV miniseries)

[sabad66]

are there any confirmed spinoff shows planned after this is over? they could easily make another few seasons with events prior to season 1, and would probably be just as interesting.

[Tik-Tok]

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are there any confirmed spinoff shows planned after this is over? they could easily make another few seasons with events prior to season 1, and would probably be just as interesting.

There's a prequel in the works.

Was anyone else hoping the white walkers would have made it to Kings Landing before they got trashed?

[finboy]

iPad Pro via piktv, terrible contrast

Also the writing is getting sloppy, I really was hoping the white walkers would be the biggest problem in the series but it was so anticlimactic

[Mitsu3000gt]

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are there any confirmed spinoff shows planned after this is over? they could easily make another few seasons with events prior to season 1, and would probably be just as interesting.

Apparently over 30% of HBO subscribers have said they are cancelling when GoT is over, so you can bet there will be a mad scramble for spin-offs and the next big thing. Spin-offs will probably be bad though if GRRM isn't involved and if they keep up the Hollywood Cliche style of filming.

[Brent.ff]

its going to be kind of hilarious if no majors die from here on out...

[JordanEG6]

Although it kept me on the edge of my seat the entire time, by the end of the episode, I felt a little short changed. An 8 season build up of the greatest villain in Westeros and it just dies anti-climatically.

[Buster]

Biggest villain? The night King as a character has been pretty minor.

The bigger problem with the episode is that it was painfully obvious that they were trying to set us up.

[Disoblige]

Very disappointing for sure given the lead up as mentioned by others.

Spoiler:

Night King seemed like a huge badass and untouchable, yet he got killed so pathetically.

[JordanEG6]

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Biggest villain? The night King as a character has been pretty minor.

The bigger problem with the episode is that it was painfully obvious that they were trying to set us up.

I should be clear about that, I didn't mean 'biggest' in character development-wise, but he's the biggest villain in Westeros at that current time as Cersei/Euron/Golden Company threat (and everyone else before that including Tywin) pale in comparison.

[msommers]

It would have been cool if they disguised Arya better like they did when she off'd Walter Frey -- if that was really how they wanted to do this it would have been cooler. Her assassin skills are incredible, I mean she was trained by the best assassin in the realm.

Season 8 has been a bit of a bust anyways so the rest of the season doesn't really get me amped up. Not gonna lie, I was SUPER stoked for this episode because if history repeated itself, the battle scene would have been incredible; the first 10 minutes I was still in it, and then the horses charged and thought "wait, why would they do that?" and that theme continued for an hour. Their aim of making it dreary and realistic was great, on paper, but it's akin to reading the greatest poem in history and barely being able to read the letters because your aim is "the devil is in the details" or some other bullshit artist licensing.

[Mitsu3000gt]

The NK was still a very formidable enemy, the problem was once the book ended and the show writers got a hold of it.

If anything reasonable happened at all, he would be virtually invincible, but then the story would be ruined haha. He didn't need to be near the action he could be hanging out on his dragon in the blizzard nobody else could fly in. The walkers did literally nothing to protect him at godswood. He could have waited for the entire second raised army to kill everyone off before coming for Bran, etc. etc. The show made him anticlimactic, especially compared to the previous battles he was involved in. He's immune to fire and only a very rare type of steel can kill him (and possibly dragon glass, but we'll never know). He can control the weather, he can ride a dragon, he can hurl a spear like a SAM, etc. He was pretty much unstoppable until the writers put him in the middle of the front line of a battle where tons of people were still alive with "bodyguards" who stood back and did literally nothing. I think he was a perfectly fine enemy, the way they built up to it in that episode was just so poorly done IMHO that it was very anticlimactic.

I don't know what a better way for him to die would have been, but we knew it would be Arya with all the foreshadowing (Red woman's prophecy of white eyes, Bran giving the dagger that started it all to Arya, Arya sneaking up on Jon in godswood in S08E01 and him asking her how she did it, etc.) Once we knew it would be Arya, I think a lot of people suspected Arya to use her special skills somehow to pull it off but she didn't. Maybe some sort of elaborate bait & switch or something would have been a better way to kill him off. Or maybe the NK could have kicked Theon in the balls, and surprised by the lack of effect, Theon would have a window to stab him with Valyrian steel. The show (and probably GRRM) wanted Cersei to be the last enemy, so lets hope they saved most of the budget for that battle - they must have saved a bundle shooting the last episode in the dark.

[msommers]

On another forum, someone had a really interesting take on maybe why the NK did what he did, and really like it:

All NK and NK Generals had to do is stand back and necromance:

Deadwalker minions squeegee-wipe living things, rise arms, release white walker armpit aroma, rise more deadwalker minions. Repeat.

The only shot lving things had was to bait the NK. And like Idiot, he fell for it. Cold-Idiot had to personally deal with Bran. Not a NK General, not the cold dragon, not a random giant zombie, not a bunch of random zombies. No. He, being as idiotic as Jon "Idiot" Snow, had to do it himself, and expose the single point of failure the blue-eyes had. And it worked. That goes to show, more than anything, that the white walkers shared a powerful human weakness: Pride.

[Tik-Tok]

The Night King was just a human, of course he has the same failings.

[vengie]

There was dialogue around the Night Kings obsession around "wiping out" the three eyed raven and the memory of human history.

If that was something he valued so highly, why would he not do it himself? It was mentioned the Night King had attempted to kill multiple three eyed ravens before.

[msommers]

Why does he hate the three-eyed raven so much? In cahoots with Child of the Forest who made him in the first place?

Edit: Memories of men is why the NK wants everyone dead. An interesting "book report" on that running theme:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vul...an-memory.html

[colsankey]

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I don't know what a better way for him to die would have been, but we knew it would be Arya with all the foreshadowing (Red woman's prophecy of white eyes, Bran giving the dagger that started it all to Arya, Arya sneaking up on Jon in godswood in S08E01 and him asking her how she did it, etc.) Once we knew it would be Arya, I think a lot of people suspected Arya to use her special skills somehow to pull it off but she didn't. Maybe some sort of elaborate bait & switch or something would have been a better way to kill him off. Or maybe the NK could have kicked Theon in the balls, and surprised by the lack of effect, Theon would have a window to stab him with Valyrian steel. The show (and probably GRRM) wanted Cersei to be the last enemy, so lets hope they saved most of the budget for that battle - they must have saved a bundle shooting the last episode in the dark.

i dont think they saved much at all.. they had most of the cast out for 55 days to shoot the winterfell battle. just wish we could have seen more.. i also feel like the 20 extra minutes added last minute was wasted. we could done with less of the snow storm flying. and as much as i love Arya the whole library scene was too drawn out.

[dirtsniffer]

If she was so fucking sneaky how can the dummy wights hear her in the library but not at the end.

[vengie]

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If she was so fucking sneaky how can the dummy wights hear her in the library but not at the end.

They didn’t hear her... the door screeched as she was trying to close it...

Jesus Christ you guys are far too critical, it’s a tv show. I just watched it for a second time and enjoyed it.

[Perfect Dark]

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They didn’t hear her... the door screeched as she was trying to close it...

Jesus Christ you guys are far too critical, it’s a tv show. I just watched it for a second time and enjoyed it.

This. And I'm guessing a solid portion of the people whining pirated it anyway so your opinion means nothing.

[dirtsniffer]

I mean if she had two faced into bran that would have been slick, but literally they spent 5 full minutes showing how she couldn't sneak around a couple of them, only to show her flying through the air, passed hundreds of wights and white walkers.

I'm all for suspending belief, but this was a serious contradiction to events that happened only moments apart.

And I pay for HBO, does that make it more valid?

Also, I loved the episode, even with the dial up porn quality feed on Shaw. Was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing.