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    as much as i like android and have an n1, the ipad2 is better, everything about it, and its twice as fast
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    How is it twice as fast?

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    Originally posted by Mar
    Once some competition drives the price down this will be sweet. Is the operating system open to install something like GIMP on it?
    Running GIMP on it would be like trying to use iBooks on a computer: it's a crappy user experience. Also, not sure it would work, considering Android is built for an ARM CPU, not X86

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    Originally posted by ZEDGE
    How is it twice as fast?
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/a...p2-benchmarked
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    Originally posted by nich148_9


    Running GIMP on it would be like trying to use iBooks on a computer: it's a crappy user experience. Also, not sure it would work, considering Android is built for an ARM CPU, not X86
    How would it be a bad user experience? And it's open source so you can just recompile the source code for your architecture, I think someone ported it.
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    Jesus man, I know you like Transformers, but you need to get out more. No one should get this upset over a movie based on children's toys.

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    Interesting but the Zoom is running at a higher resolution.

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    Is it double the resolution? No it's like 10-15% higher so add that to xoom scores and its still slow
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    Honeycomb is still very new and not optimized well, pretty sure it will improve. The Tegra 2 is no slouch. Either way it would not convince me to not get an Android tablet.
    Last edited by ZEDGE; 04-08-2011 at 09:23 PM.

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    For real? Who gives a shit about the GPU in a tablet? The iPad2 has a 1.2 gib processor and the Xoom has been very successfully overclocked to 1.5 gibs. The XOOM also has double the RAM that the iPad2 does. Apple disappoints again.
    Originally posted by Go4Long
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    Jesus man, I know you like Transformers, but you need to get out more. No one should get this upset over a movie based on children's toys.

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    Originally posted by Mar

    How would it be a bad user experience? And it's open source so you can just recompile the source code for your architecture, I think someone ported it.
    A finger is about 45 x 45 px of touch area. The toolbar buttons and controls in GIMP are about half on both sides.

    Originally posted by Mar

    For real? Who gives a shit about the GPU in a tablet? The iPad2 has a 1.2 gib processor and the Xoom has been very successfully overclocked to 1.5 gibs. The XOOM also has double the RAM that the iPad2 does. Apple disappoints again.
    People who play games, use photo apps, read graphics-intensive websites and watch a lot of video probably care about the GPU. You're also comparing a non-stock Xoom to a stock iPad for the CPU.

    The Xoom lacks an IPS display, so it's really hard to read the opposite side when in landscape mode (in portrait mode, it's nearly impossible). It also uses a much wider aspect ratio, which means it's better for watching videos, but worse for using in portrait (to read a book, browse the web, etc.). It's also heavier than an iPad 2, which makes it worse for casual, non-desk use.

    The Xoom isn't a bad tablet though.
    Last edited by nich148_9; 04-08-2011 at 10:19 PM.

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    Originally posted by nich148_9
    People who play games, use photo apps, read graphics-intensive websites and watch a lot of video probably care about the GPU. You're also comparing a non-stock Xoom to a stock iPad for the CPU.
    Games? On an iPad2? Which games?
    How would it affect photo applications and graphics intensive websites? These are static photos and the Xoom has a higher resolution than the iPad2 so it would be better, no? The GPU, as far as I understand it, only matters under load, like heavy animation.
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    Maybe you are thinking cartoon animation

    On the ipad "animation" consists of many things:

    -page scrolling
    -zooming
    -photo zooming & browsing
    -rotating screen
    -sweeping homescreens

    etc the list goes on my friend
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    Originally posted by Mar

    Games? On an iPad2? Which games?
    How would it affect photo applications and graphics intensive websites? These are static photos and the Xoom has a higher resolution than the iPad2 so it would be better, no? The GPU, as far as I understand it, only matters under load, like heavy animation.
    Infinity Blade and Need for Speed, just to mention a couple.

    As for photo applications and websites, iOS uses animation extensively, and prioritizes "feel" over rendering (when scrolling on an original iPhone, the website would move with the finger, but take a moment to properly render; a more powerful GPU allows it to do both). The Xoom has a higher resolution, but a worse GPU, so it gets a worse frame rate for animations throughout.

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    Originally posted by bart
    Maybe you are thinking cartoon animation

    On the ipad "animation" consists of many things:

    -page scrolling
    -zooming
    -photo zooming & browsing
    -rotating screen
    -sweeping homescreens

    etc the list goes on my friend
    Which are all smooth on Honeycomb and Tegra 2 to be fair. Played with one at Best Buy yesterday, was really impressed. Still to expensive though. Those benchmarks are not necessarily representative of day to day performance. I am quite sure you will see significant improvements in future updates of Honeycomb anyway.
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    Originally posted by ZEDGE


    Thats why the ASUS one at $399 seems more appealing. Plus IPS display.

    Or this one:

    http://ca.gizmodo.com/5790151/finall...han-the-ipad-2

    The flood gates are about to open on Honeycomb powered Android tablets as there are many more coming from Viewsonic, Samsung, Toshiba, etc.
    Competition is definitely heating up in the Android tablet market. With so many Android tablets coming to market, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a price war in a few months.

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    Originally posted by 2000impreza
    With so many Android tablets coming to market, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a price war in a few months.
    What's funny is I keep getting the impression all these companies are out to take out the iPad 2 more than they are each other haha

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    Two reasons why the Ipad will never be as good as xoom.

    1) linux OS
    2) flash

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    hey any updates iceberg? how you liking it after one month?

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    Originally posted by maxwinedog
    hey any updates iceberg? how you liking it after one month?
    Well, after using it for over a month, i have to say no regrets, just more possibilities.

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    Originally posted by ICEBERG


    Well, after using it for over a month, i have to say no regrets, just more possibilities.
    do you like it better than the ipad 2 and playbook? cause i see you picked up all 3.

    I had playbook but returned it and went back to ipad 2. Main thing going for playbook was the multitasking and size but aside from that there was some things on it that drove me nuts that ipad has.

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