Race 4: 2011 FORMULA 1 DHL TURKISH GRAND PRIX - 06, 07, 08 May 2011

[urban.one]

Fri 06 May 2011
Practice 1 01:00 - 02:30
Practice 2 05:00 - 06:30

Sat 07 May 2011
Practice 3 02:00 - 03:00
Qualifying 05:00

Sun 08 May 2011
Race 06:00


Istanbul
Race Date: 08 May 2011
Circuit Name: Istanbul Park
Number of Laps: 58
Circuit Length: 5.338 km
Race Distance: 309.396 km
Lap Record: 1:24.770 - JP Montoya (2005)

Practice 2

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.456 26
2 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:26.521 0.065 29
3 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:27.033 0.577 31
4 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:27.063 0.607 21
5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:27.149 0.693 31
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.340 0.884 37
7 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:27.517 1.061 37
8 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.725 1.269 37
9 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.844 1.388 32
10 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:28.052 1.596 37
11 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:28.069 1.613 27
12 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:28.153 1.697 36
13 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:28.475 2.019 35
14 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:28.765 2.309 32
15 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:28.828 2.372 19
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.946 2.490 20
17 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:29.409 2.953 39
18 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:29.637 3.181 27
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:30.281 3.825 37
20 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:31.035 4.579 28
21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:31.221 4.765 22
22 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:31.320 4.864 29
23 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1:31.989 5.533 30
24 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault No time 0

[urban.one]

McLaren's Jenson Button set the pace in Turkish Grand Prix practice on Friday while Formula One world champion Sebastian Vettel crashed in the morning and missed the entire second session.

Vettel, the championship leader after winning two of the first three races, gave his Red Bull mechanics plenty of extra work after spinning into the barriers at the rain-soaked Istanbul Park circuit.

The 23-year-old German, who has been on pole position for the past four races, spun at the exit of the challenging triple apex turn eight.


The session was red flagged with 27 minutes remaining, with marshals clearing mud off the track while the battered Red Bull was hoisted onto a flatbed truck and brought back to the pitlane.

"There was some water on the exit. There was nothing I could do," he said over the team radio after his car skidded down the barriers to a halt.

The damage was extensive and Vettel was a mere spectator in the afternoon when the sun made a weak appearance and temperatures rose notably. He will now go into the weekend with no dry weather mileage under his belt.

[Mibz]

I guess I'm not the only one who didn't watch the race. This thread is dead.

[redline]

it was a great race, lots of action expect for the winner...

[DJ Lazy]

Exciting race for sure... just finished watching it.

Bad start for Hamilton, Great Pit to pass Massa, bad pit stop to loose tons of time. Vettel drove an "easy" race. DAMN ALONSO! haha

[cycosis]

Vettel was looking confident as sin all weekend. Great finish for the Redbulls. Poor hamilton and his damn wheel nut.

[Alpine Autowerks]

Is it just me? Or is this why the thread is dead?

I cannot bear to watch the races this season even with a PVR and lots of fast forwarding...I find the tires & DRS & KERS to have turned the races into a real life Super Mario Kart game. There are so many constraints on the cars and team that they have had to add the artificial aides to "bring back passing".

[DJ Lazy]

^^ DRS activation was positioned WAY to early in Turkey, otherwise I think the aides have made it exciting to watch.

I think Tires and KERS would have worked just as well though.

[rage2]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy
^^ DRS activation was positioned WAY to early in Turkey, otherwise I think the aides have made it exciting to watch.

I think Tires and KERS would have worked just as well though.

I agree. Going into turn 12, guys were already 2 car lengths past at the braking zone, not even a battle. Made it kinda pointless.

The previous races, all DRS did was made it possible for a car behind to have a chance at battling for a pass if it was 1sec a lap faster.

It's a new technology, I'm sure the FIA will learn from this race and adjust for DRS accordingly at the next tracks.

[cycosis]

I prefer the passing. Who wants to watch a bunch of cars running the whole race in the same position as the starting grid? Its just another performance tool, not an artificial cheat button. Everyone has access to it.

[TKRIS]

I like it, but they have some bugs to work out.
Barichello has come out and said he thinks having DRS enabled for Monaco is going to end up causing a lot of accidents. The zone will be in the tunnel, and the fear is that the narrow track, and the crazy marbleing coming off the new tires will result in a lot of accidents.

The thing I don't like about the new tires is that the hard compounds don't seem to last much longer than the options, and they don't seem to have a real dramatic effect on performance. Right now, there doesn't seem to be much strategy with regards to compounds. I think if there was a greater difference between them, it would make things much more interesting.

[Alpine Autowerks]

But the "passing" has not changed the race. I think 8 of the point playing positions finished within 2 places of their qualifying spots.

[TKRIS]

But it was a battle the entire race.
The passing evened out in the top ~8 spots on this particular race, but I think you'd be hard pressed to look a Kobayashi's race (+14 places, and was nearly +17), or Webber's performance in China, and say that the increased passing doesn't change the outcome. Plus, I don't think it matters as much that it drastically changes the actual outcome (which it may or may not) as that it drastically increases the excitement of the race (which most people seem to agree that it has).
Also, much cleaner racing now that everything doesn't rely on the first lap of the race.

[962 kid]

Total agreement in with Kobash & Weber as have GREAT drives ...not unlike some of the GREAT drives they had last year. And the mid part of the race was clean as long as you weren't driving anywhere close to car #7

[rob the knob]

old man barichello should retire