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    Default Gatineau’s values guide for immigrants stirs controversy

    i enjoy reading comments section.

    do you think there is a backlash against immigrants in canada?

    is trudeaus multictulisrm failing? or failed already?


    Gatineau’s values guide for immigrants stirs controversy
    INGRID PERITZ
    MONTREAL— From Monday's Globe and Mail
    Published Sunday, Dec. 04, 2011 7:45PM EST


    One of Quebec’s biggest cities is throwing out the welcome mat to immigrants with a 16-point guide to local values, which range from refraining from bribing officials, killing people for honour, to cooking smelly foods.

    The city of Gatineau says its newly released “statement of values” is aimed at helping newcomers integrate. But critics say it infantilizes them and treats immigrants “like they came out of a cave.”


    The guide is already drawing comparisons to the controversial code of conduct adopted by the Quebec village of Hérouxville during the heat of the province’s reasonable accommodation debate in 2007. Unlike Hérouxville, however, which banned stonings even though it only had a single immigrant family, Gatineau is home to about 250,000 and has seen a surge in international immigration in recent years.

    The administration of Mayor Marc Bureau says it published its list of “essential values” to help the newly arrived fit in and learn “how to interact” in their new environment, according to the guide.

    “We are basically saying: Thank you for coming to Gatineau, we’re very happy you’re here, and this is how things work,” said Mireille Apollon, the councillor responsible for cultural diversity in the city, which lies within the National Capital Region across the river from Ottawa.

    “We receive immigrants from diverse horizons and cultures,” Ms. Apollon, who herself immigrated from Haiti decades ago, said on Sunday. “Behaviours aren’t uniform around the globe. There can be irritants.”

    Some of the dos and don’ts of becoming a resident of Gatineau cover familiar ground for newcomers to Canada. Men and women are equal. In Quebec, French is the official language. Canadian and Quebec values include freedom, democracy and justice.

    But the guide, which received funding from the Quebec government, also takes stands that typically remain outside the purview of civic officials.

    On a page titled “Children are our most precious good,” the guide says that no-nos include “excessive punishments, corporal and sexual abuse, confinement, neglect, forced labour, humiliation, willful malnutrition,” among other things.

    The section on punctuality says it’s best to show up to appointments on time or even a few minutes early. Under freedom of expression, the guide tells immigrants that journalists in Canada have the right to openly criticize their government. Religion, it says, is a private affair and religious indoctrination is “often not well perceived.”

    One page mentions that it’s not okay to offer bribes. Under “hygiene, cleanliness and quality of life,” the guide says respecting others extends to curtailing smells like cigarette smoke and “strong odors emanating from cooking.”

    The most detailed section, meanwhile, informs newcomers that violence is not justified in the name of “ancestral rights,” “safeguarding honour,” or “culture or religion.” The guide doesn’t mention particular immigrant groups by name, but notes that simple matters that are obvious to some people “might surprise others.”

    Immigration has picked up speed in Gatineau in recent years. Fewer than one in 10 residents is foreign-born, but projections call for the number to increase. Immigration leapt 28 per cent last year over the previous year in the metropolitan region, the biggest rise in Canada after Edmonton. The city has seen a large increase in immigrants from Africa, including those from the French-speaking Maghreb.

    Some critics say the guide is both of questionable value as well as redundant, since both Canada and Quebec already spell out the rights and responsibilities for immigrants. The latest edition of the federal government’s citizenship guide says Canada’s “openness and generosity do not extend to barbaric cultural practices that tolerate spousal abuse, ‘honour killings,’ female genital mutilation, forced marriage or other gender-based violence.”

    Fo Niemi, head of the Centre for Research Action on Race-Relations, a Montreal-based rights group, denounced Gatineau’s guide, saying it was reminiscent of the church’s “paternalistic” attitude toward aboriginals in past decades. He said that immigrants to Quebec are selected for their high levels of education and professional achievement.

    “This infantilizes them,” he said on Sunday. He says he knows many native-born Canadians who could use a lesson about punctuality, and at a time when bullying is at the forefront of national concerns, guidelines for overall civic responsibility would be useful.

    “This singles out immigrants and treats them like they came out of a cave,” Mr. Niemi said. “It practically portrays them as being Neanderthals.”
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    dude, you need to start stripping all of the "crap" out of the news articles that you post here. it only takes a second to do, and it makes the article a lot easier for everyone to read.

    you are the only person who has a problem with this, it's almost as if you try to do it. just like you speak in broken english, right?

    For example, all of this should have been stripped out:

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    there i fixed it.
    why does it bother you? its easy to just skip over it when you are reading. never had anyone else mention it. i will try to remember though to do it when i post again.

    edit: its all about time. faster to post without changing anything. and faster to type fast and not worry about it. people know what i mean.
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    Default Re: Gatineau’s values guide for immigrants stirs controversy

    Originally posted by rob the knob
    do you think there is a backlash against immigrants in canada?
    Originally posted by Guillermo
    you speak in broken english...
    bahahahaha... hilarious!

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    Default Re: Re: Gatineau’s values guide for immigrants stirs controversy

    Originally posted by masoncgy




    bahahahaha... hilarious!
    +1
    Does everything matter or does nothing matter?

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    On one hand, OMG RACIST.

    On the other hand, why not let people know about colloquialisms so that they don't learn after pissing off 1000 people first?

    If I moved to Saudi, do you think I'd like to know that my wife can't walk around in a bikini? Yep.

    Fo Niemi, head of the Centre for Research Action on Race-Relations, a Montreal-based rights group, denounced Gatineau’s guide, saying it was reminiscent of the church’s “paternalistic” attitude toward aboriginals in past decades. He said that immigrants to Quebec are selected for their high levels of education and professional achievement.
    He has to say this to make sure he's serving a purpose. He's guilty of racism by supporting a selective immigration policy.
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    Originally posted by teamPRO


    howbout suck my black kettle...

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    I think the point is that it's extremely condescending and ridiculous. How would you feel if you moved to a new place and while being welcomed you're told "oh btw, please don't kill your wife, we don't like that"?

    Also, LOL at not committing female genital mutilation. For males it's still cool tho.

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    Originally posted by WithTheLightsOn
    I think the point is that it's extremely condescending and ridiculous. How would you feel if you moved to a new place and while being welcomed you're told "oh btw, please don't kill your wife, we don't like that"?
    If I came from a place where honour killings were commonplace, I'd also like to know what might land me in prison..

    Originally posted by teamPRO


    howbout suck my black kettle...

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    Originally posted by WithTheLightsOn
    I think the point is that it's extremely condescending and ridiculous. How would you feel if you moved to a new place and while being welcomed you're told "oh btw, please don't kill your wife, we don't like that"?

    Also, LOL at not committing female genital mutilation. For males it's still cool tho.
    This has been all over the news for the past few days. Who knows but I bet this guy would have liked the advice

    Honor killings

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    Originally posted by CUG
    If I came from a place where honour killings were commonplace, I'd also like to know what might land me in prison..
    Most immigrants don't come from places where honour killings are common. And I'd be willing to bet the large majority of those that come from these peoples are against them.

    Also, murder and rape here in Canada are probably about as common as honour killings in some places. By that logic should we start sending out similar notices to all Canadians?


    Originally posted by jdmXSI


    This has been all over the news for the past few days. Who knows but I bet this guy would have liked the advice

    Honor killings
    "Hey buddy, murder is illegal here!" I'm sure that would have stopped him

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