That's not what socialism is, or what is being discussed. The issue is whether or not a socialist system suppresses the desire to succeed. I'm saying that you can't write it off when clearly there are circumstances where it does work.Originally posted by Cos
Hutt colonies are far from classless. There is lots of politics and power within the colonies. You just dont see it on the outside a lot.
I used to a lot of work for colonies and there is definitely a pecking order.
Of course it's not working with the reserves, that's not something I'm arguing. The difference between one and the other is the size (reserves are on a national scale, whereas a colony is a few hundred people) and Hutterites are driven by faith. I'm aware that the two can't be directly compared.
I don't want to get into a big fuckfest about socialism vs. capitalism, I just want to explain why I don't think the blame can be entirely put on socialist programs. Not giving them free money would solve the money problem alright, but the real problem is that these groups of people aren't contributing.
If we stop giving them money, they're likely not going to treat that as a wake up call to get up and contribute. They're still going to be brokedick, and we'll end up paying for them anyway. There needs to be some goal for them to work towards before they'll start to put out. Cutting off the cash is part of that, but not all of it.