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    Quote Originally Posted by cidley69 View Post
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    Anyone done the math to see if the added cost of premium gas actually pays for itself by better mileage compared to regular gas?
    Unless your car is tuned for premium, you wont see a difference. My truck tuned for 91 gets better milage while towing than 87 with stock tune. While not towing, it doesnt match the 20c difference.

    The best way to get better mileage for cheap is to use 87 octane without ethanol in it.
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    I don’t consider premium versus regular to be a choice of which is better fuel economy, put whatever grade is Recommended by the manufacturer for the vehicle.

    What you can choose is whether you pick gas with ethanol in it or not which does have a real fuel economy impact.
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    Premium vs. regular has little/nothing to do with fuel economy. Also premium isn't "betteR" for your car (unless your car recommends premium). Any other wives tales I missed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjblair View Post
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    Premium vs. regular has little/nothing to do with fuel economy. Also premium isn't "betteR" for your car (unless your car recommends premium). Any other wives tales I missed?
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    less ethanol = better mileage
    less ethanol = premium gas
    better mileage = premium gas
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    I checked this site again and apparently there are now two Coop has stations that offer ethanol-free regular grade? Seems unlikely that it would only be a couple Coops that did this...

    https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=AB
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    I checked this site again and apparently there are now two Coop has stations that offer ethanol-free regular grade? Seems unlikely that it would only be a couple Coops that did this...

    https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=AB
    Coop gas in Calgary hasn't had ethonal in it for over a decade

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    Shell 91 for the bikes and Shell 87 for the car (daily driver, nothing special).

    Stateside is chevron/shell, but chevron in SoCal seems to be more abundant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cidley69 View Post
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    less ethanol = better mileage
    less ethanol = premium gas
    better mileage = premium gas
    Premium does not always have less ethanol. Calling it premium is actually stupid, so let’s just call it high octane which is what it actually is.

    Ethanol has a base octane rating of 100, and is often blended in higher concentrations in gas to raise the octane level of the blend.

    In many many cases High Octane (“premium”) gas has more ethanol in it than regular gas because of this. Which could actually mean putting high octane gas in your shut box that calls for regular leads to poorer fuel economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidley69 View Post
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    Anyone done the math to see if the added cost of premium gas actually pays for itself by better mileage compared to regular gas?
    Not in any vehicle I've ever owned and there's virtually zero chance now that major label stations are gouging +20˘/L for high octane when it used to only be 10˘.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cidley69 View Post
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    better mileage = premium gas
    Never ever put premium gas in a stock vehicle thats designed to run on 87. You will LOSE mileage (could be 2-5%) .

    If you want to clean your fuel system better, buy a 10$ bottle of cleaner and rev up the engine.

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    I used to get Coop gas without issue, I switched to Shell since there is zero ethanol, along with the air miles. Been extremely happy with Shell gas, for the bikes and the cars and trucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham_A_M View Post
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    I used to get Coop gas without issue, I switched to Shell since there is zero ethanol, along with the air miles. Been extremely happy with Shell gas, for the bikes and the cars and trucks.
    Shell 91 octane only. 87 has ethanol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Shell 91 octane only. 87 has ethanol.
    Not according to that one beyond guy earlier in the thread.
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    I use CO-OP diesel in my truck, Shell 91 in my car and CO-OP 87 in my company car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo View Post
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    I use CO-OP diesel in my truck, Shell 91 in my car and CO-OP 87 in my company car.
    Dude you need than VPower diesel Yo!

    For... reasons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Dude you need than VPower diesel Yo!

    For... reasons...
    Probably not worth it on my stock truck, possibly if it was modified more I’d consider it. I use a fuel conditioner in the truck every time I fill up as well.

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    I never knew putting premium gas into engine designed for regular is actually detrimental.

    Along these lines, is putting brand of regular fuel without ethanol (rumoured to be Calgary coop gas) bad for vehicles that have E85 sticker on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidley69 View Post
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    I never knew putting premium gas into engine designed for regular is actually detrimental.

    Along these lines, is putting brand of regular fuel without ethanol (rumoured to be Calgary coop gas) bad for vehicles that have E85 sticker on it?
    No it’s fine. E85 just means it’s an E85 capable system, it doesn’t mean you have to use fuel with ethanol content.

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