The Men Who Made Us Fat

[Eleanor]

Anyone watch generation kill?

"50% of Americans are obese. You know what obese means, right? Fat as a motherf*cker. All these other countries, nobody's fat. Think about that sh*t, dawg. How does a motherf*cker get fat? You gotta sit on a couch, do nothing but eat and watch TV all day. White trash, poor Mexicans, and blacks...all obese as motherf*ckers. See, the white man has created a system with so much excess that even poor motherf*ckers are fat."

EDIT: Just to add to the debate, I strongly believe that there is a huge choice aspect to obesity, that being said you do need to fight an uphill battle to get healthy, it's by no means easy, but by no means impossible. If you're broke, go eat a McDick's burger, but get off the bus a stop early, or go for a run, or throw a frisbee around instead of playing CoD or watching American Idol.

[Modelexis]

Originally posted by supe
The only body that can change things is government. Governments should be there to protect the people.

What you imagine government should do and what government actually does are two very different things, exact opposites in fact.

Governments will always have an underlying drive for profits not ethics.
Do you think there is no money involved in politics? No insider trading? No back room deals? No promises? No special favors?

Sorry to ruin your fantasy that government is some embodiment of Jesus. I guess you'll have to just look for another solution for the problems that society faces.

I might be so bold as to suggest that parents today raise their kids with a healthy diet and with education about diet and about what it means to track your calorie macros.
This is one way that we can overcome this problem without the help of government.

[FraserB]

I think that if something was at least done about soft drinks it would make a pretty significant dent in the obesity and diabetes issues that are only going to get worse in the coming years. Something like 115g of sugar and 650 calories in 1L of Coke is ridiculous. Not to mention the sizes that are available at places like 7-Eleven. I used to drink a ton and stopping was pretty damn hard, but I haven’t had any in just about 4 months and there is nothing but good that has come from it.

[Toma]

did you guys see the new big gulp container they sell?? god damn, it has to be 2 litres.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by FixedGear


1) you underestimate the cost of a quarter pounder, which is closer to $5.

2) however, the poor guy is gonna go for the $1.39 McDouble, not the $5 quarter pounder.

3) you assume the person is making a mcdonald's-style burger at home, using the crappiest, most processed ingredients available. You're missing the point. Of course I can go out and buy a bunch of processed, factory-made ingredients and "make" a processed, factory-made burger at home. That's not what anyone meant. We were saying that making your own high quality, healthy food is more expensive than eating processed food. All you did was substitute one processed food for another.

1) Can you tell I don't eat at McDicks? LOL
2) I can see your point..
3) I disagree. The burger you're making at home is all fresh ingredients. I'm not talking the shitty predone patties, I'm talking raw ground beef, hand shaped patties.. Fresh onions, the decent buns etc..

Also, to the people that are saying eat the same thing for a week, that's true if you don't have a family, but for those of who DO have more than one person, those supplies will feed us one meal. Then all the condiments etc can be used many many times for other meals, just adding in other ingredients.

I do see where you're coming from, but eating healthy at home is FAR cheaper & healthier in the long run than eating out. If you go as far as making your own bread, then it's even cheaper. This was just a basic example, and of course I'd make the patties better, adding shredded cheese, onions, some spices etc to the mix. If you were to compare the cost of my making one of my SuperCharged Codetrap Burgers, vs going for a Gourmet Burger somewhere, I'm probably still FAR cheaper, and I'll have a ton of leftovers I can use for other meals.

Originally posted by Eleanor
If you're broke, go eat a McDick's burger...

If you're broke, go to the food bank. Go to the soup kitchen. There's tons of free food out there. No reason at all to hit McDicks.

[benyl]

Originally posted by FraserB
I think that if something was at least done about soft drinks it would make a pretty significant dent in the obesity and diabetes issues that are only going to get worse in the coming years. Something like 115g of sugar and 650 calories in 1L of Coke is ridiculous. Not to mention the sizes that are available at places like 7-Eleven. I used to drink a ton and stopping was pretty damn hard, but I haven’t had any in just about 4 months and there is nothing but good that has come from it.

Didn't Bloomberg try that in New York? did the law go through?

[FixedGear]

Originally posted by codetrap

1) Can you tell I don't eat at McDicks? LOL
2) I can see your point..
3) I disagree. The burger you're making at home is all fresh ingredients. I'm not talking the shitty predone patties, I'm talking raw ground beef, hand shaped patties.. Fresh onions, the decent buns etc..

Also, to the people that are saying eat the same thing for a week, that's true if you don't have a family, but for those of who DO have more than one person, those supplies will feed us one meal. Then all the condiments etc can be used many many times for other meals, just adding in other ingredients.

I do see where you're coming from, but eating healthy at home is FAR cheaper & healthier in the long run than eating out. If you go as far as making your own bread, then it's even cheaper. This was just a basic example, and of course I'd make the patties better, adding shredded cheese, onions, some spices etc to the mix. If you were to compare the cost of my making one of my SuperCharged Codetrap Burgers, vs going for a Gourmet Burger somewhere, I'm probably still FAR cheaper, and I'll have a ton of leftovers I can use for other meals.


If you're broke, go to the food bank. Go to the soup kitchen. There's tons of free food out there. No reason at all to hit McDicks.

I guess I misunderstood, I thought we were talking about processed vs non-processed food, not eating out vs eating at home. Sure, its more expensive to eat out at a good restaurant than eat at home. However, its still ore expensive to make good food than it costs to buy the processed equivalent (whether it be in a supermarket or a mcdonalds).

[ZenOps]

I got sympathy for the fat cats though.

Seriously. We blame them when we overeat on their contribution of abundance of food. In most of the rest of the world, you complain about the leader and those who have money - that don't feed you.

I say the US halves the EBT benefits and also halves the eligible users every year for ten years.

That will keep people skinny.

[Modelexis]

Another video on the subject:

[Go4Long]

Originally posted by benyl
Didn't Bloomberg try that in New York? did the law go through?

I believe it did go through. Any soft drink over 16oz is set to be illegal in new york, which is particularly funny given some of the other food items that are still readily available. Jon Stewart did a great bit on that. If youtube wasn't blocked at work I would find it.

[CompletelyNumb]

Originally posted by benyl
He will likely demand hot dogs more often and refuse to eat other things (I have seen this with other children). You have no choice but to feed you kid the hotdog so that he will eat SOMETHING.

Damn, I must have had a hard upbringing. If I didnt eat what was served, I didnt eat. Russian father. He didnt care if I didnt eat for two days, odds are once im hungry i'll eat what i'm given.

I dont understand the logic of giving in to your kids' demands. Until they're teenagers and actually have their own money, they sort of have to eat what's at home.

[benyl]

my co-worker has a kid that wouldn't eat for almost a week.

Do you have a kid? If not, let me know when you do and we can talk then.

[Go4Long]

I have a kid...she's not old enough to demand shit :P

[J-hop]

^my brother was EXACTLY like that, always wanted hotdogs or KD (even though we barely got that) and would try to refuse to eat our home cooked meals. All it took was my parents going through the list of items he enjoyed and revoking access to them ie: TV, videogames, hanging out with friends, dessert after supper. His phase didn't last long because he know he couldn't win. You give them what they demand well that is your own style of parenting I guess and you are entitled to promote your kid to have an attitude like that....good luck!!!

I find it kind of interesting some of the comments in this thread coming from people that when it comes to driving they say the government steps in too much, but now they think the government should babysit us and tell us what to eat???? If we are such brainless zombies that can't even nourish ourselves properly what makes you think we have the ability to pilot a vehicle at our own discretion

[benyl]

Let's be clear, my kid eats what his mother tells him to eat. There are those out there that do not.

[CompletelyNumb]

Originally posted by benyl
my co-worker has a kid that wouldn't eat for almost a week.

Do you have a kid? If not, let me know when you do and we can talk then.

I do not. I just have fond memories of trying those tricks with my parents.

What would you do if your child acted like that? Give him what he wants?

[scboss]

Originally posted by benyl
my co-worker has a kid that wouldn't eat for almost a week.

Do you have a kid? If not, let me know when you do and we can talk then.

See but thats your co-workers fault. I have 2 god kids and they never cry when it comes to eating healthy. Why? Because that is how they have always ate.

Ive dealt with people that are 300 lbs plus, when it comes to food choices and changing how they eat its hard. Ive actually had a woman break down and cry in front of me (280 lbs) after 1 week of introducing veggies into her diet. Saying it is to hard

Food addiction is all mental tho. Its not like you are gonna have withdrawls from eating a salad lmao. I can see it now someone sweating out a big mac addiction for 90 days

[CompletelyNumb]

Originally posted by CompletelyNumb
Are you over weight toma?

Still waiting, toma.

You were taught the food pyramid, so I'm guessing you're fat as hell and mad at the government for it? After all, anything taught in the past supersedes the knowledge of the present. In your world.

Originally posted by Toma
did you guys see the new big gulp container they sell?? god damn, it has to be 2 litres.

And it's 7-11's fault if you drink it.

[CUG]

The big part of being healthy is staying away from suger, I feel. Then the bad carbs. People need to quit "loving to eat"

[NightFX2]

There's so much tastier healthy food than fast food if people would get off their ass and make their own food.

Excercise also helps with wanting to eat healthy but it would take a lot of determination for an obese person.

So many online resources for recipes

ie. a personal favourite http://www.epicureanbb.com/ (WARNING!! FOOD PORN!!)