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    Default Lance Armstrong stripped of Tour titles

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/cycling/sto...s.html?cmp=rss

    The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Thursday night it will strip Lance Armstrong of his unprecedented seven Tour de France titles after he declared he was finished fighting the drug charges that threaten his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists of all time.
    And banned for life.
    Shame.

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    Not surprised. Not really a shame either. That's how all professional sports work...everyone's on it and knows the risks.

    You get caught, you get the book thrown at you. You don't get caught, you win.

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    Wow...

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    "There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now," Armstrong said in a statement sent to The Associated Press. He called the USADA investigation an "unconstitutional witch hunt."

    "I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999," he said. "The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today - finished with this nonsense."

    USADA reacted quickly and treated Armstrong's decision as an admission of guilt, hanging the label of drug cheat on an athlete who was a hero to thousands for overcoming life-threatening testicular cancer and for his foundation's support for cancer research.
    http://www.tsn.ca/cycling/story/?id=403718



    Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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    its called sarcasim you fucking idiot

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    Also:
    http://www.boxingsocialist.com/profi...ource=activity

    This guys on the staff of Juan Manuel Marquez and Usain Bolt.

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    I didn't read it but from what I know is he is just sick of fighting the agency. He doesn't have the time to waste on something like that. I'm not saying he didn't because I have no idea. He has never been proven guilty As far as i know so shameon them he's the champ to me.

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    Um. He didn't get caught. There is no evidence.

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    the thing is though he never technically got "caught" for anything. The federal case against him was dropped and now this was relying on "witness" testimony.

    IF they want to go after you, years after your have won then maybe change the rules/testing to begin with?

    The only thing that he was ever caught for was back in like 98/99 for cortisteriods that he produced a prescription for.
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    Im just waiting for the International Cycling Federation to say "Excuse me USADA, somewhere along the line you thought you could actually strip Mr. Armstrong of his wins. You have much to learn"

    What a god damn farce.

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    From what I read, he's been fighting this for 13 years now. Every year hes taken the test and has passed. The one time he failed he was able to produce a legitimate response due to his cancer treatments. They have yet to get any evidence on him for 13 years, and now he's simply tired of fighting and wants to move on is an admission of guilt. Wow.

    Plus the teammates that are witnesses against him were all caught doping...

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    I think its dumb. Him doping was dropped from federal investigation and now USADA is feeling like they have to continue. Even the UCI told USADA to piss off.

    I hope UCI tells these guys to go shove it and doesnt strip armstrong. As for his olympic medal i think USADA can strip him of it.

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    Originally posted by liquidboi69
    Also:
    http://www.boxingsocialist.com/profi...ource=activity

    This guys on the staff of Juan Manuel Marquez and Usain Bolt.
    The article quoted above is well worth the read. I'm cynical by nature but it provides a very rational perspective of how almost every champion in practically every sport is doping.

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    Originally posted by Isaiah

    The article quoted above is well worth the read. I'm cynical by nature but it provides a very rational perspective of how almost every champion in practically every sport is doping.
    What really surprises me is that society as a whole hasn't just come to the logical conclusion of allowing doping. Let athletes take responsibility of their own health and drop the whole facade of "clean" sports.
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    He was never going to be able to successfully fight this as the USADA had already found him guilty before any trial had "officially" taken place. They have no physical evidence from over 500 tests in competition and out of competition, the US Attorneys office didn't have the evidence to convict him and yet the USADA decides it's OK to ban him anyways. A total kangaroo court. Did he dope or didn't he? I don't know but the process to "convict" him is complete bullshit and should never have been allowed. Even the court Armstrong appealed to said a case like this would never have been allowed in a normal court. I don't think we will ever really know for sure what the truth is but his upcoming ban is crap.
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    Maybe they should spend the money fighting old battles on improving testing of current competitions. If you didnt catch him I say he keeps them.

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    Complete garbage... How can they go back at him for something they'll never be able to prove conclusively? He's had 500 tests, all passes... What are they basing this on? What one person said?

    Okay then, he should name off a bunch of top cyclists stating they were offering him the drugs they were taking > will the USADA folks threaten to revoke their titles?

    Here, I'll start > In London, Usain Bolt took performance enhancing drugs I gave him before the race... Are they revoking his Gold medal now?
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    Livestrong?

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    http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor...ng-Victim.html

    here's a really good article about the whole lance situation...personally, i dont care whether he doped or not because everyone else also doped, i'm not saying it's right but the fact that he has never failed a test and has undergone all of this is wrong. if he failed a test i agree that he should be punished but even then its only a 2 year suspension not a lifetime ban.

    if he cheated shame on him and that's something he'll have to live with but the fact that all this was instigated because of witness testimony with no hard evidence bugs me. maybe the USADA does have hard evidence but through this whole process they have not had to divulge any evidence whatsoever. LA's team asked for it but because this is not being contested in a court of law there was no requirement for it.

    between the UCI and ASO I'm not sure if they would actually recognize the USADA's decision since everyone else on the podium with Lance at those tours were also caught doping.

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    I can understand his frustration, on the news they said the court cases over the last 10+ years have cost him millions of dollars. There is a point when even when right people know they can't win......this is one of them.
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    Originally posted by Zephyr
    From what I read, he's been fighting this for 13 years now. Every year hes taken the test and has passed. The one time he failed he was able to produce a legitimate response due to his cancer treatments. They have yet to get any evidence on him for 13 years, and now he's simply tired of fighting and wants to move on is an admission of guilt. Wow.

    Plus the teammates that are witnesses against him were all caught doping...
    The thing I find strange is the fact that he is effectively surrendering.

    Seems like an odd thing for an innocent man to do? It would be like being convicted of a felony after years of court cases just because you don't want to fight any more. You would think he were innocent that he would fight tooth and nail to clear his name.

    Is he really willing to live the rest of his life known as a cheater and doper? The only people that won't think that are his die-hard fanboys.

    I think he is just cutting his losses. He knows that there is evidence against him and that he will lose in court. So by surrendering and calling the whole thing a "witch hunt" he loses his titles but still allows for reasonable doubt in the heads of his fans.

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