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    After a hail storm went through the NW corner on August 12, 2012... I thought of the idea of purchasing an extremely (not really repairable, or not worth repairing) hail damaged brand new vehicle.

    This particular hail storm impacted a wide range of areas covering the city, (actually I believe more areas than the last "big" hail storm July 12, 2010)

    Few Beyonders threw out the idea of "group buying" hail damaged new cars for cheap (but they were throwing stupid lowballed numbers that wouldn't really work)... I added myself into one of those threads interested in the group buy, nobody really followed through or got anything going I don't think.

    I guess someone took me seriously and PM'ed me... nixrx8 (NICK, a sales rep for Village Honda)

    But life isn't always about all play... part of my career is to follow hail storm damaged vehicles and remove the dents (that can be pushed out perfectly), that particular dealer damage, not so much, not in that area.

    But Nick was pretty patient knowing I'd be really busy (working at dealership with hail damage where the dents can be removed perfectly with PDR)

    Texted with Nick for a few days about pricing on a Civic, always wanted a Honda for a beater... all the cool kids back in high school had Civics.

    (sidestory): In between texting Nick... I found myself ONE group-buy partner... which is a guy that manages PDR technicians for a big PDR corporation (these PDR companies bid for bulk work, then they break it down hiring employees or self-employ contractors)... this guy's regular job is closing deals, like meeting with huge insurance companies, getting them to commit to send $$$ Millions worth of hail claims to the PDR corporation.

    So this would be the perfect group-buy partner.

    So I'm working away, group-buy partner calls me saying he found a dealer that'll give us what we wanted. (buying 2 cars, cash)... but being in the "car industry"... we were clear what bargain we wanted, no misunderstanding whatsoever: MSRP but full disclosure discount applied on actual insurance claim payout, BUT we'll pay the normal salesperson profit per vehicle fee, pre-delivery inspection, tire tax, paperwork fees...

    Short version is... (this ISN'T Village Honda) another import dealer in that automall, their sales guy TRICKED "my" PDR sales guy to get us in their door. (over the phone, it was totally understood they're giving us actual insurance payout discount, plus gst and fees)...

    Total waste of time at this other import dealer... Fucking Chinaman salesman too... Don't even wanna waste time writing about them specifically, gave us the "let me ask my manager for the numbers for you", guy even had the nerves saying: "oh this is perfect, you guys (idiots) fix dents, this is perfect, you can fix it yourself and sell it and make some GOOD money"....... We pretty much laughed in his Asian face... it's like buddy, there's been hundreds of "dent shops" knocking on your door this week, why isn't any "dent companies" fixing these... cuz it's not pushable... and it's not even economical to replace and repaint these... We just want to buy some beaters for our own use, LIKE WE DISCUSSED and thought was understood on the phone.
    Anyways, that was the sideline story where another import dealer was a complete waste of time, fucking lies, false/confusing info... (which is NOT Nick, that's what I'm saying)... So that night after that other dealer wasted my time, since I was in that area... thought I'd check out the newly built Village Honda damaged lot (between the texts with Nick, he told me to just get a few stock numbers and he'll get some prices for me)

    Within the course of 2-3 days, our whole deal went down through texting... Cuz I'm really busy trying to make $$$ to pay for this somehow. (Nick was really accommodating)

    Then I had no idea what happened, next thing you know, I was grabbing a money order/draft from my bank near the dealer I was working at...

    Told Nick I had the money as agreed, he had the paperwork (purchase paper) done within like 20 hours... Before you know it, he was delivering my Civic to where I was working (that was part of my conditions)

    But I mean remember, with hail damage units there are down sides to them... check with your insurance about comphensive coverage... AND, as shown in photos of MY Civic, you are dealing with a LOT, a LOT of "door dings" from the sky that you have to live with... But for me, I'm just gonna bag the shit outta this. (within Honda Canada allowable warranty guidelines of course )

    The price itself I won't talk about... but retaining my creditbility as a reviewer... of course, common sense, you all know the actual cost to repair this hail damage (properly) would NOT be the discount given to me; BUT, because this is pretty sever, the amount $ of discount was still "somewhat" worth it for ME, to use it as a beater for a few years, with mechanical warranty these next few years I don't wanna spend maintaining (major issues) on my own cars anymore... (aside from the fact that these types of damage can't be fixed using PDR for perfect finish, even if I was to fix it half-ass... that still doesn't make sense, cuz why wouldn't I just go into work, and get paid following hail storms, chasing insurance's tail working on customer vehicles, getting paid properly)... During delivery, even Nick "tried" squeezing that line to me (oh you can fix these after)... even though I already handed him my $$$ and he got the sale... But I stopped him in time before I treated him like the dumb Asian sales guy from the other import dealer earlier.


    In summary:

    - Bought a hail damaged Honda Civic from Village Honda
    - Salesperson NICK, also a Beyonder nixrx8
    - Good communication, through out my inquiries (knowing I'm checking other places, questioning him back and forth on different potentials, situations)... he was 100% clear, didn't misled (pet peeve in new car buying scene), he's pretty smart the way he words things so you don't have false hope on a certain deal (so he's not trying to trick you, we all got to be realistic; this ain't China where the listed price on a $200 "Nike" shoe can end up to be $25 just by pretending to be walking away from the street vendor)
    - He did end up bugling a VERY little bit from his original price quoted to me... but that's probably out of pity, lol
    - Price I paid, even though wasn't as much as I'd like, but again, consider the purchasing EXPERIENCE in itself... I got a product that I paid for, thing is, nothing to bitch about; but being accurate in review; nope, not a steal of a deal.
    - With hail damaged units, make sure you know what's involved with your insurance/comphensive

    But even if you weren't purchasing a hail damaged unit, if you're in the market for a Honda... I say definitely include Nick as one of the stops to visit.

    Here're some photos of my new beater.





    Just becareful with corner edges, big hail hitting these spots will crack paint. (It was late night when I grabbed a few stock #'s for Nick that night... so that's my fault)


    Inside, you won't notice the difference I suppose.



    Just not sure if I should regular plate it, or custom plate it???


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    Should swap out a few of the panels and use it as a "demo/comparison" car to show off how good your PDR skills are.

    But seriously, if you don't mind the hail dings you can basically park that thing with impunity now.

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    White car? Just slap a few of these stickers on it, and you're good to go!

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    Haha, it would be awesome if you put that custom plate on, then did PDR on one half of the car (i.e. driver side). Then leave the other half dented

    That way, people will know you did it on purpose.

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    Default Re: Review: Village Honda (Beyonder member salesperson)

    Originally posted by TomcoPDR

    Anyways, that was the sideline story where another import dealer was a complete waste of time, fucking lies, false/confusing info... (which is NOT Nick, that's what I'm saying)... So that night after that other dealer wasted my time, since I was in that area... thought I'd check out the newly built Village Honda damaged lot (between the texts with Nick, he told me to just get a few stock numbers and he'll get some prices for me)

    But I stopped him in time before I treated him like the dumb Asian sales guy from the other import dealer earlier.


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    What's the name of the other import dealer? That way I can make sure to avoid that place.

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    Originally posted by Disoblige
    Haha, it would be awesome if you put that custom plate on, then did PDR on one half of the car (i.e. driver side). Then leave the other half dented

    That way, people will know you did it on purpose.
    Otherwise people will just think you're a shitty repairman. Leave the plate off imo.

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    Default Re: Re: Review: Village Honda (Beyonder member salesperson)

    Originally posted by TopGearUK


    What's the name of the other import dealer? That way I can make sure to avoid that place.
    That import dealer hasn't fucked me over for money (which is the most important thing), nor fucked up on servicing my vehicle or anything... I have to take it as miscommunication between their chinky sales guy, and my group buy partner (I filled in for him cuz he couldn't make meeting time, so I wasn't the one that discussed the deal or mis-deal; but yea kinda annoyed with the misinformation from both ends, but hate to pinpoint 100% blame)... When I'm ready to purchase their brand of vehicles, I might test that dealership again, cuz they deal with a sporty coupe I wouldn't mind as my next beater.



    Just an update, a Beyond member bought a vehicle off Nick. And Nick/Village Honda gave me a $100 referral cheque. So just disclosing that. Of course if you like Nick's services and wanna use me as reference, that'd be greatful appreicate, but not necessary... If only I can get 50+ Beyonders buying a Honda every month... I'd quit my day job... or at least make it just a part time.


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    i'll vouch for Thomas's reputation as well...
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    I know which dealership ou're talkin bout tomco, i was there earlier this week to look at a truck, get some pricing for comparison. Only 3 asian salesman there hahaa. I dealt with the young one. won't buy anything from there ever, their service department pissed me off like 10+ years ago and i vowed to never spend another dime there ever. but thanks for the heads up on the sketchiness.

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    God damn it Tom... tell us the whole story. how much did you buy the car for? how much is it gonna cost you to fix that civic, and how much did you save?

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    Originally posted by InRich
    God damn it Tom... tell us the whole story. how much did you buy the car for? how much is it gonna cost you to fix that civic, and how much did you save?
    Big brother Rich, since it's you asking.

    The rates I got, I'm pretty certain Nick/ Village Honda can offer anyone. But just so I'm not cock blocking their sales, I'm gonna put a "range", just to give them or the next buyer room to negotiate.

    MY car: Full hail damaged Civic EX sedan. All-in $15,500-$16,000 (brand new 10km when Nick delivered it)

    Discount: (the night that I walked their new lot, met some lebanese dudes there chill dudes, and they confirmed that's the discount being offered when they called... also 2 cops drove by saying that's the discount they got offered too, can't remember their cruiser number) ~$8,000 discount for Civic hail damage

    Repairing the hail: Rich, that really should be the decision made by someone in the auto industry... IMHO. (i.e. insurance adjustors, vehicle owner/which would be the dealership, bodyshops, or PDR companies)

    For this type of hail damage: I'd say if someone wants all PDR method (some spots could have flaws), IMO, it'd take about $11,000+ for PDR labour for really nice work. My car for example, has 2 crack paint spots cause by hail impact, though you can push dent out, then what do u do with the crack paint??? (touch up? to me, I'm ok with it... but if someone spends that kinda money on a damaged car, then going to a private PDR shop, what's acceptable to THEM???)

    You're better off just let the professionals deal with it (if dealer decides to fix damage, they'll pay their insurance deductible; then just let the dent shops and/or bodyshops fix the damage for you; and in the end you're buying a brand new hail removed car)

    BING (3 posts above), he's an operations director for a big PDR corporation (no conflict of interest to me, I'm a tech they COULD hire; not doing any of their projects at this moment)... but you can PM him to see which dealers they're working at and see what kinda results can be done with PDR.


    But, in my "professional" opinion... I would NOT recommend buying a hail damage discounted car, then thinking about paying out of pocket at a dent shop thinking you'll profit the discounted difference.

    A lot of Beyond friends/personal friends get this false impression, bling bling Thomas, you're gonna make so much money on this hail damaged discount car fixing yourself... (I'm getting complaints I write a lot): Simply put, it's like being an escort banging their bf for free, while she can simply turn on her work cell and take on willing, able and paying customers requiring their services.

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    You certainly have the gift for gab Thomas!

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    Originally posted by Disoblige
    Haha, it would be awesome if you put that custom plate on, then did PDR on one half of the car (i.e. driver side). Then leave the other half dented

    That way, people will know you did it on purpose.
    This actually seems like a great marketing idea if you wanted the exposure..

    Just stick your number or something on the car as well, write it off and it would be great!
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    Originally posted by R-Audi
    You certainly have the gift for gab Thomas!
    LOL! does he ever... I enjoyed a few beers with him though when I met him... some good laughs...

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    Originally posted by TomcoPDR

    A lot of Beyond friends/personal friends get this false impression, bling bling Thomas, you're gonna make so much money on this hail damaged discount car fixing yourself... (I'm getting complaints I write a lot): Simply put, it's like being an escort banging their bf for free, while she can simply turn on her work cell and take on willing, able and paying customers requiring their services.
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